So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

So Kakashi getting MS was at the very mercy of Obito! Even after awakening the MS due to Obito, Kakashi couldn't use it till he became an adult, kinda pathetic if you ask me

[Tendou00]

Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.

If he really awakened MS on his own, then why couldn't he use it until he became an adult? Don't make sense to me

Just to correct things, Obito's younger than Kakashi, so he is the youngest person to awaken the MS

[Tendou00]

If he really awakened MS on his own, then why couldn't he use it until he became an adult? Don't make sense to me

Just to correct things, Obito's younger than Kakashi, so he is the youngest person to awaken the MS

It makes sense since Killing somoene close is the way to awake MS, Rin was close to Kakashi.It's obvious that his low chakra wasn't enough to control MS and he's not an Uchiha.The most important is that both awakened in same time .
And no according to databook Kakashi is a lot younger than Obito.

[jiraiya lives]

Kakashi is the one who killed Rin and they both awaked MS in same time so your theory fail.
In contrary that just prove that a non Uchiha is the youngest to awake MS.Kakashi is simply a beast.

agreed

[Godz]

So Kakashi getting MS was at the very mercy of Obito! Even after awakening the MS due to Obito, Kakashi couldn't use it till he became an adult, kinda pathetic if you ask me

Um ok those are just assumptions and not facts and this is a fail hate thread

[suzano]

hm Obito's trauma of seeing rin killed made kakashi awaken his MS

[shortfusered]

And everyone knows Kakashi has like no stamina to hold the sharingan even when he fought Zabuza in part 1. So of course the awakening of the MS is going to drain him. Stop trying to flame

[amsy]

well it is pathetic i agreed

[Norphfinus]

I think that as far as it taking kakashi longer then Obito to learn the MS you have to think about the fact that kakashi had nobody to teach him when you know that madara the one that knows all the secrets to the sharingan taught obito I mean who else but madara can fastrack someone in the sharingan

[★The Shogun]

don't you mean kakashi awakened the ms for obito?

[narutokage99]

It's the contrary lol, kakashi killed Rin not Obito.Whatever they both got in in same time.

[Champ]

Without Obito eye. Kakashi would've just been a fodder, Obito made him

[Orochimarus Slave]

Without Obito eye. Kakashi would've just been a fodder, Obito made him

im sorry but.. what the hell are you saying? Kakashi was like one of the youngest person to become a jonnin and an anbu.. he created his own justu(chidori). if anything without the MS obito would've been a fodder. and kakashi is the one who made obito, if he never killed rin, obito would have never awakened the MS, so no more MS=fodderized obito. kakashi could do fine without obito's sharigan. in fact he could probably do better since his chakra doesnt have to be constantly wasted on handling the sharigan.

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

im sorry but.. what the hell are you saying? Kakashi was like one of the youngest person to become a jonnin and an anbu.. he created his own justu(chidori). if anything without the MS obito would've been a fodder. and kakashi is the one who made obito, if he never killed rin, obito would have never awakened the MS, so no more MS=fodderized obito. kakashi could do fine without obito's sharigan. in fact he could probably do better since his chakra doesnt have to be constantly wasted on handling the sharigan.

Obito unlocking the base sharingan itself qualifies himself to be Jounin level at the very least, but Obito has gone much further after training with Madara... and no you don't need to directly kill your closest friend to MS, you only need to witness it, the mental trauma is what that awakens the MS.

Obito has mastered the Kamui, while Kakashi can only still transport things other than himself, not too impressive, and Kakashi uses his sharingan in almost every fight, even against Zabuza lol. Just to top this off, chidori is just suicidal without sharingan. So basically what made Kakashi from being a medium level jounin to S-class Jounin was none other than Obito

[KingHashirama]

Same can go for Obito. o-o

[Third Sage]

Pathetic, huh? He uses it with great profficience and he's not even an Uchiha.

[TheUchihaLives]

Kakashi and obitos eyes are linked..so kakashi killed rin unlocked Ms for both himself and obito and ofcourse him being non uchiha couldnt handle the awakening and collapsed...soo kakashi unlocked and obito mastered

[Kalldarin]

Wow kakashi is no fodder, we was called gifted and already a jonin before he even got the eye, your comment is fail.

[vegetaHATAKE]

ur just a hater thats all!!!cudnt come up wid a worst thread thn this :flaw: even after being a non uchiha he perfected his ms n other than that kakashi was the 1 who helped obito awaken his ms by killin rin!!!!!!

[shelke]

No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.

and also to add to this fact, you don't have to kill your closest friend to awake the MS,

you only have to witness it, and the mental trauma is what that triggers the awakening. Just like Obito, Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke awakened their own sharingan.

Rin was Obito's closest friend, and not Kakashi's best friend.

There is no way Kakashi could awaken it by killing her.

[★YellowFlash1]

No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.

Kakashi awakened the Ms himself.

You awaken the "Ms" by suffering a trauma or by losing/killing your closest friend/lover.

Sasuke didn't Kill Itachi, He watched his Brother die in front of him which was how he awakened his "Ms", Same Situation for obito.

Obito loved Rin so much that when he seen her die he was heart broken. Kakashi is the other part, He had to killer her, or choice to kill her, either way that's another way to active the "Ms".

Now you can't make assumptions that he can't awaken the "Ms" because now that he has it, he can activate and Deactivate it. Which tells us that he has control over it, Hence that he could awaken the "Ms" With suffering the same Trauma as the Uchiha which would activate their "Ms"

He if was unable to Evolve the Sharingan himself, he wouldn't be able to activate the "Ms" whenever it suited him.

This is just my assumption but it makes more sense. If another eye is in someone else then you suffering a trauma wouldn't effect the other eye. That wouldn't make sense.

[hatakii kakashii]

de fuq ??? kakashi is the one awakened both MS for both of them

[ghost nappa]

They both witnessed the same trauma and activated it at the same time.