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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

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    They both witnessed the same trauma and activated it at the same time.
    nuff said :D
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Fail.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    people forget, its obito's eye...kakashi wouldnt be on par with anything without obitos eye...he only lasted against itachi because of obitos eye...kakashi is great..but it is what it is...he got a handout..those 1000 jutsus are crap...if they were good he coulda beat zabuza with even using sharingan..if those 1000 jutsus were good he coulda beat deva path and obito...but he couldnt...so the 1k jutsu are crap..hes good but he isnt on par with uchiha..if he was he woulda just handled madara...i bet there was a sigh of relief when madara chose to fight the bee and naruto over kakashi and guy...u know why? cuz kakashi isnt a factor..he great..but not in the eyes of an uchiha
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    they both activated MS at the same time although independently
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    They both activated it on the same time If u say that theyr eyes are Linked than when Obito and Kakashi using the Mngekyo they activate it in each other eyes,that wuld be S**t.And just admit Kakashi is genius that was proved alredy.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    I think people here adore Kakashi too much. His genius status has nothing to do with awakening an MS which has a completely different requirement.

    No replies?! Oh, come on, I was just getting started.
    Eh, good night, I guess.
    I already read your post and said my piece. Obito's eye was reacting to him because he was close. The eyes acted as a pair. And since he was traumatized from his experience MS awoke. Since the eyes were on a 'pair' level due to Obito being close, both eyes awakened MS at the same time.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    No, he is right. Remember how Obito could see through kakashi? His sharingen was reacting to his presence and he was able to locate Rin and him. Kakashi on the other hand couldn't see anything through Obito. Kakashi only recently got a bit used to Sharingen's power and now it utilizes less of his Chakra. He is known to have low stamina and Chakra reserves, a fact he himself admits. He couldn't have been able to awaken it himself. Seeing Rin getting killed at Kakashi's hand caused Obito to awaken MS, and since he was close his other eye reacted. You have to understand that the whole 'See through Kakashi' with his sharingen is very very important here. His eye was reacting to his presence. So technically, when his one eye achieved MS so did the next one.
    Kakashi awakened the Ms himself.

    You awaken the "Ms" by suffering a trauma or by losing/killing your closest friend/lover.

    Sasuke didn't Kill Itachi, He watched his Brother die in front of him which was how he awakened his "Ms", Same Situation for obito.

    Obito loved Rin so much that when he seen her die he was heart broken. Kakashi is the other part, He had to killer her, or choice to kill her, either way that's another way to active the "Ms".

    Now you can't make assumptions that he can't awaken the "Ms" because now that he has it, he can activate and Deactivate it. Which tells us that he has control over it, Hence that he could awaken the "Ms" With suffering the same Trauma as the Uchiha which would activate their "Ms"

    He if was unable to Evolve the Sharingan himself, he wouldn't be able to activate the "Ms" whenever it suited him.

    This is just my assumption but it makes more sense. If another eye is in someone else then you suffering a trauma wouldn't effect the other eye. That wouldn't make sense.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Actually, Kakashi got Ms for obito.

    Kakashi was the one who killed rin, Obito did nothing.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Kakashi awakened the Ms himself.

    You awaken the "Ms" by suffering a trauma or by losing/killing your closest friend/lover.

    Sasuke didn't Kill Itachi, He watched his Brother die in front of him which was how he awakened his "Ms", Same Situation for obito.

    Obito loved Rin so much that when he seen her die he was heart broken. Kakashi is the other part, He had to killer her, or choice to kill her, either way that's another way to active the "Ms".

    Now you can't make assumptions that he can't awaken the "Ms" because now that he has it, he can activate and Deactivate it. Which tells us that he has control over it, Hence that he could awaken the "Ms" With suffering the same Trauma as the Uchiha which would activate their "Ms"

    He if was unable to Evolve the Sharingan himself, he wouldn't be able to activate the "Ms" whenever it suited him.

    This is just my assumption but it makes more sense. If another eye is in someone else then you suffering a trauma wouldn't effect the other eye. That wouldn't make sense.
    I already know all this, so there is no need to tell me this. You are not grasping the point of eye reaction to Obito's presence, and both eyes acting as a pair. The proof is Obito seeing things through kakashi and not vise versa.
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    I already know all this, so there is no need to tell me this. You are not grasping the point of eye reaction to Obito's presence, and both eyes acting as a pair. The proof is Obito seeing things through kakashi and not vise versa.
    He seen through Kakashi eye true... That doesn't mean to say they act as a pair.

    Kakashi would have been able to see through Obito's eye also... They have been beside each other and nothing has it said about them sharing the same vision. Sure it could be true.

    Kakashi was the one that awakened the "Ms" that's all i'm saying...
     
         

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    Re: So Kakashi wasn't soo great after all, as Obito activated the MS for him!

    Well Kakashi was the one to activate it. Now some ask why he didn't use it through his life or learned to use it on will. Simple this whole Tobi is Obito is just a huge plot hole, there was no need for Kakashi or Obito to activate the mangekyo the past chapter 605 shouldn't have been made, it would be better just with this one(606) his convection and change doesn't seem the least bit believable. I get he(misashi kisimoto) wanted to reveal to be tragic, dramatic, all that good stuff, but to me it just fell flat with plot holes and things that don't matter.
     
         

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