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    The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Has anyone seen it yet? I just saw it again and while I do admit I overreacted at first I do still think that some parts of it are just plain stupid.

    Ok first of all the best part, Dol Guldur, all my fav Tolkien characters in one place (bar Aragorn): Olorin, Elrond and Galadriel. Well there was the beat up Olorin BS but Galadriel and Elrond made up for it (Elrond in armor = epic)

    Than there is the scenery, simply breathtaking.

    And ofc the acting, Ian McKellan and Martin Freeman are simply excelent, though I did not much care for Thorin or Bard.

    There was also some great action, but with Tolkien story should always come first.

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    Ok now the bad:

    The CG, omg the CG, there is simply too much of it and it looks so much worse than the LoTR modela, paintings, miniatures, sets, prosthetics, ... There's just too much of it and the Orcs just look soooo much worse than the LoTR orcs, Lotr looked like it was filmed in the real worl ... This does not

    The slapstick comedy. Just too much really.

    Too much recycled material from LoTR, basically scenes feom LoTR just a wee different

    A lot of it made no sense (everything wrong with the hobbit is gonna have a lot of material to work with), there was a magical portal at the top of a little hill that opened the gates to the magical world of Narnia

    Legolas asJ's personal Jesus, they just push him waay too far, he basically walked on the air and built a bridge, and at the end I really disliked how he as the "best character ever" was suppost to find this little nobody that is the son of Arathorn

    And WORST OF ALL!! The idiotic, stupid, retarded, f??.?.D up, moronic love story between the elf and the dwarf, Professor Tolkien is rolling in his grave right now , but hey a love triangle is a money grab right, screw the story

    LoTR FoTR 10/10
    LoTR TTT 10/10
    LoTR RoTK 11/10

    The Hobbit AUJ 5/10
    The Hobbit DoS 3/10
    The Hobbit BotFA 5-5.5/10

    And that is the limit to how much I am willing to write on my phone

    What were your thoughts on the movie
     
         
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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    The movie was for me a solid 8/10 .
    The worst parts for me was the last bit of fighting scenes like on the Ice. I mean his chainRock was stuck in the ice and he threw it back like that , or when he was under the ice it was so obvious he would jump back, the dragon got killed very easy and the ring is suppose to possed powers right? Poorly used by the little fuked. Over good movif with some little flaws.
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

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    The movie was for me a solid 8/10 .
    The worst parts for me was the last bit of fighting scenes like on the Ice. I mean his chainRock was stuck in the ice and he threw it back like that , or when he was under the ice it was so obvious he would jump back, the dragon got killed very easy and the ring is suppose to possed powers right? Poorly used by the little fuked. Over good movif with some little flaws.
    Well the dragon got killed like he was supposed to, in the book hw flies to burn down the city and gets killed so i likedbthat they didnt milk that more

    The ring? You mean the ring of power? Well yea it has but not for Bilbo, all Bilbo can do is turn invisible (well all that is relevant to this discussion)
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    It's out already? LOL. It doesn't release until the 17th.
     
         

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    It's out already? LOL. It doesn't release until the 17th.
    Haha lol I just saw that NA gets it a week later ... Justice!!!
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

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    Haha lol I just saw that NA gets it a week later ... Justice!!!
    How is that justice?
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

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    How is that justice?
    I'm still pissed over ORAS and now there is justice!!
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

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    I'm still pissed over ORAS and now there is justice!!
    ORAS? Fill me in please.
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

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    ORAS? Fill me in please.
    all you need to know is that justice was served
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Quote Originally Posted by Algalon View Post
    all you need to know is that justice was served
    You could tell me why you're so butt hurt, so I could probably empathize with you, but it also isn't justice. You're using that term in the wrong context. It's just a movie who's producer, crew, the movie itself is an European production thus dubbing an earlier release to certain areas than here.
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Quote Originally Posted by elitenoob94 View Post
    You could tell me why you're so butt hurt, so I could probably empathize with you, but it also isn't justice. You're using that term in the wrong context. It's just a movie who's producer, crew, the movie itself is an European production thus dubbing an earlier release to certain areas than here.
    it is justice we had to wait 3 weeks ago, now you get to wait
     
         

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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Quote Originally Posted by Algalon View Post
    it is justice we had to wait 3 weeks ago, now you get to wait
    Wait for what? That isn't justice. Whoever produces it, where it originated from such as The Last is a Japanese production it releases in Japan first. Basic logic right there. lmao

    I'm not actually waiting 3 weeks either. More like 1, and I probably won't even see it at the midnight premiere because I'm not as hyped for it right now.
     
         

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    I have to wait until it's released online because there are no movie theatres where I live~
     
         

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    I'm gonna see it today, you're usually very critical with the hobbit movies though for some reason where ever they come out.
     
         
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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Quote Originally Posted by Algalon View Post
    Has anyone seen it yet? I just saw it again and while I do admit I overreacted at first I do still think that some parts of it are just plain stupid.

    Ok first of all the best part, Dol Guldur, all my fav Tolkien characters in one place (bar Aragorn): Olorin, Elrond and Galadriel. Well there was the beat up Olorin BS but Galadriel and Elrond made up for it (Elrond in armor = epic)

    Than there is the scenery, simply breathtaking.

    And ofc the acting, Ian McKellan and Martin Freeman are simply excelent, though I did not much care for Thorin or Bard.

    There was also some great action, but with Tolkien story should always come first.

    -----------------------------------------

    Ok now the bad:

    The CG, omg the CG, there is simply too much of it and it looks so much worse than the LoTR modela, paintings, miniatures, sets, prosthetics, ... There's just too much of it and the Orcs just look soooo much worse than the LoTR orcs, Lotr looked like it was filmed in the real worl ... This does not

    The slapstick comedy. Just too much really.

    Too much recycled material from LoTR, basically scenes feom LoTR just a wee different

    A lot of it made no sense (everything wrong with the hobbit is gonna have a lot of material to work with), there was a magical portal at the top of a little hill that opened the gates to the magical world of Narnia

    Legolas asJ's personal Jesus, they just push him waay too far, he basically walked on the air and built a bridge, and at the end I really disliked how he as the "best character ever" was suppost to find this little nobody that is the son of Arathorn

    And WORST OF ALL!! The idiotic, stupid, retarded, f??.?.D up, moronic love story between the elf and the dwarf, Professor Tolkien is rolling in his grave right now , but hey a love triangle is a money grab right, screw the story

    LoTR FoTR 10/10
    LoTR TTT 10/10
    LoTR RoTK 11/10

    The Hobbit AUJ 5/10
    The Hobbit DoS 3/10
    The Hobbit BotFA 5-5.5/10

    And that is the limit to how much I am willing to write on my phone

    What were your thoughts on the movie
    I liked Elrond in armour. I didn't like Gandalf in the cage all that much or the fact that he needed saving like that. More so because the movie makers seem to be somehow shipping him with Galadriel.( the cheek touching in the last movie was kind of too much..and it didn't help this time either. She shouldn't be patronizing him either if that was it.)

    As much as I like to watch Orlando play Legolas, the love triangle was cliche, unimpressive and stupid..And I hated that Thranduil was made to tell Legolas to find Strider because he cannot return to his own home now. That messes up Legolas' reasons to join fellowship even let alone his time line and reason why he went to that council in LoTR. There was no need for that stupid ending of this saga for him. They could at least avoid that dialogue. I would have preferred a silent sympathy between father and son about the whole issue without any other mention to next step if they had to keep the love stuff in.

    Barring such parts from scripts- still enjoyable for most of the other aspects.
     
         
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    Re: The Hobbit The Battle of Five Armies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ira View Post
    I liked Elrond in armour. I didn't like Gandalf in the cage all that much or the fact that he needed saving like that. More so because the movie makers seem to be somehow shipping him with Galadriel.( the cheek touching in the last movie was kind of too much..and it didn't help this time either. She shouldn't be patronizing him either if that was it.)

    As much as I like to watch Orlando play Legolas, the love triangle was cliche, unimpressive and stupid..And I hated that Thranduil was made to tell Legolas to find Strider because he cannot return to his own home now. That messes up Legolas' reasons to join fellowship even let alone his time line and reason why he went to that council in LoTR. There was no need for that stupid ending of this saga for him. They could at least avoid that dialogue. I would have preferred a silent sympathy between father and son about the whole issue without any other mention to next step if they had to keep the love stuff in.

    Barring such parts from scripts- still enjoyable for most of the other aspects.
    Coincidentally Galadriels husband has the most unfortunate name in all fiction (Teleporno)

    But yea it's an enjoyable movie, I know I am very harsh when talking about the hobbit movies, but I cant help it, I am that guy that just re-reads a Tolkien book whenever he's bored or listens to an audiobook when he's cooking or doing anything similar

    Rereading Silmarillion+Unfinished Tales+Children of Hurin+Hobbit+LoTR... And rewatching the 5 movies + extras during the course of the year following up to the final Hobbit movie dodnt exactly help me like the movie either
     
         
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