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    PROVEN: Itachi Joined Akatsuki When He Was 11 Years Old ( Includes Updated Timeline )

    PROVEN: Itachi Joined Akatsuki When He Was 11 Years Old ( Includes Updated Timeline )



    I have posted this originally in the theories section but I realized it would be more appropriate to post it here ^_^


    Now for my post:

    Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was about 11-years-old. Almost two years before the Uchiha massacre.


    "So why is this necessary?"

    How is it unnecessary?
    This opens SO many doors of discussion:

    How did Itachi and Akatsuki meet when Itachi was a Chuunin?
    Why did Akatsuki make a 10/11 year old boy join Akatsuki?
    Why did Itachi join? Was he forced?
    Itachi wasn't a criminal when he joined....
    How did Itachi get away with being in Akatsuki and ANBU for two years?!
    Did Akatsuki influence Itachi to think the way he does now?
    What was Itachi doing for Akatsuki that required him to STAY in Konoha for 2 years?
    How the heck did Itachi meet Akatsuki or learn about Akatsuki WHEN HE WAS STILL A LEAF?!?!?


    Alright first here's the timeline I've constructed based on the manga and the data book:


    Akatsuki-Oro-Itachi Timeline



    Note: AD = After the Fourth's Death


    0 AD
    Kyuubi no Kitsune attacks Konoha. Naruto is born. Minato pwns Kitsune.

    2 AD
    Itachi graduates as the best in the Academy at the age of 7


    3 AD
    Itachi masters the sharingan at the age of 8

    5 AD
    Itachi turns 10 and becomes a Chuunin.
    Itachi meets Madara and becomes Madara's student.
    Itachi's personality changes because of Madara's influence and teachings.

    5.5 AD
    Itachi officially becomes an Anbu squad member.

    6 AD
    Itachi turns 11 and becomes a full-pledged member of Akatsuki.
    Orochimaru tries to take Itachi as his host.
    Orochimaru fails, has his hand cut off and quits Akatsuki.

    8 AD
    Itachi turns 13 and becomes ANBU captain. (In retrospect, he didn't hold the position long...)



    Later in that year - The Uchiha clan is slaughtered by Madara and Itachi.
    23 July 8 AD. Uchiha Sasuke turns 8.



    9 AD
    Three years are up and Orochimaru takes takes an unknown woman as his second host.


    12 AD
    Start of Naruto. 12 year old Naruto finally graduates.


    13 AD

    1) Orochimaru attacks Konoha. Tries to make Sasuke his third host. Fails again and uses one of his prisoners.
    2) Itachi and Kisame try to capture Naruto, but fail. Zetsu makes his appearance.
    3) Jiraiya promises to teach Naruto, but leaves for three months first. When he returns, he and Naruto go off for training at 13.....
    4) Akatsuki gathers and agrees to wait for three years... Chapter says, "their ambition... if they include the Kyuubi...everything will be in their hands..."


    16 AD
    1) Naruto returns to Konoha at age 15 and a half....
    2) Akatsuki gathers to rip Ichibi out of Gaara. Deidara and Tobi capture Sanbi. Hidan and Kakuzu capture Niibi Kisame captures Yonbi, bringing Akatsuki's total to seven tailed beasts...
    3) Orochimaru prepares for Sasuke to become his fourth host, but is taken over by Sasuke.
    4) The plot continues...



    Alright, somethings you might say about my revelation:

    This is some typo or mistranslation. Who mistranslates numbers? lol.....



    There are now two incidents of retrospect: One from Sasori and one from Kisame. When Sasori said Orochimaru left 7 years ago, Itachi was 18.



    When Kisame says "It's been over ten years," in Chapter 353, Itachi is 21. There is no mistranslation. It is consistent.

    Itachi was not 18 when he tried to kidnap Naruto. He had to have been older. No, he was. He was 17 when the manga started, and 18 when the Part 1 ended. So says the Databook. If you believe that the Databook is incorrect about something as simple as characters ages, then the manga has plenty of evidence toward Itachi's age.



    Sasuke was about to turn 8 ...... Itachi was 13 when Itachi murdered everyone.



    This means that Sasuke was 13 and Itachi was 18 when he tried to kidnap Naruto.

    Why would Itachi join Akatsuki at 11?! It makes no sense! The motivations and secrets of characters are the plot twists that make stories enjoyable. Not understanding the reasoning right now does not mean that the information is false. Up until Chapter 242, we didn't know how Kakashi had a Sharingan, but that didn't mean he didn't have one.

    Are you trying to say that Orochimaru was beaten by an 11-year-old chuunin?! Yes. And it makes perfect sense. How long had Sasuke had Sharingan when Orochimaru tried to take his body? 3 years. How long had Itachi had Sharingan when Orochimaru tried to take his body? 3 years. Itachi and Sasuke had both had the same amount of experience with Sharingan and were at the same level of development. And Orochimaru received the same punishment for trying to take their bodies.

    Well.... Orochimaru must have left Akatsuki years ago, before Itachi came, but snuck back when he heard Itachi joined to take his body. Orochimaru says he left because of Itachi, time and time again... So do other characters. Please do not try to rearrange the sequence of events to make Itachi join Akatsuki at 13 or 14... The numbers don't lie.



    Jiraiya even said that when Orochimaru joined, Itachi was a member...(Manga Proof: Chapter 143 pages 3-7) And we recently see Itachi recruiting Orochimaru's replacement, Deidara!

    Well then, Itachi must have been spying on Akatsuki for Konoha and --- Stop right there. Konoha did not know Akatsuki existed 10 years ago. Jiraiya knew, because he followed Orochimaru, but not Konoha. And Jiraiya did not tell Konoha until years later when he came back. (See above Manga Proof) Not very smart on the hermit's side, but that doesn't mean it isn't the truth. And once again, Jiraiya was the one who informed Konoha that Itachi was even a member of Akatsuki.

    So then, Itachi was in Akatsuki and ANBU at the same time? And no one noticed? Yes. According to Itachi's father and clansmen, when Itachi entered ANBU he's personality completely changed. He started being difficult to talk to and aloof. This is months after he entered Akatsuki...


    It is in this year that Itachi also goes on many "secret missions".... He never even bothers saying that they are ANBU.... Honest and candid until the end, Itachi..... Itachi flakes on responsibilities in his clan.... He then lectures Sasuke on the Purpose of the Shinobi.



    Itachi says, "Shinobi usually live as hated people... To have strength means you become isolated and arrogant... Although at first, you only sought what you have dreamed for... " Sounds pretty somber for a kid who was still a chuunin until that morning...

    "Shinobi are tools, hated naturally for their very purpose: War." A speech that I don't mind saying was almost identical to Pain's speech to Hidan a decade later......( Chapter 329 pages 8-15 )


    It is the same sort of speech he gave to Hidan.

    Itachi became a chuunin at 10. He was finally able to leave the village for missions. Somewhere, at some time, somehow he meets the Akatsuki.The Police Force was created by an ancestor of the Uchiha. Itachi and Sasuke discuss this when Itachi was atleast 10.5 years old and has been a chuunin for 6 months. Itachi then tries to flake on a mission with his father. Has he met Akatsuki already? (7 pages)

    Itachi is officially hired by ANBU at 10.5 years, 6 months after becoming a chuunin. But Itachi has changed since the time he was a chuunin. He is colder to his parents. He talks about secret missions that he has to go on and he sees his line of work as something that is naturally feared and hated.

    By 11, Itachi has become member of the newly formed Akatsuki. Orochimaru sees a promising youth in Itachi and tries to take his body using the Immortality Method he just perfected. It fails and Itachi chops off his hand.


    Months pass. Itachi ranks high in ANBU. Itachi finds a secret room in his clan's temple, where a forbidden scroll is kept. It is about the true purpose of the Sharingan. With the information in these scrolls Itachi gains the unsightly power of MS.

    Itachi expresses his feeling towards being a shinobi. "Am i unpleasant? Shinobi are hated people. To be strong is to be isolated." He then proceeds to kill every member of his family except for his own younger brother, to whom he expresses respect for his brother's deep rooted hatred of him. "In order to reach the height of my capacity, I've lost all hope for this pathetic clan." Itachi mocks his clan for not reaching their capacity. (6 pages)

    One month after his 13th birthday, Itachi, the crimson Moon, walks away from his home as a member of The Akatsuki.


    I don't believe you. Well... That just isn't my problem.

    Your thoughts would be highly appreciated. Thanks for reading.
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    How Long Did It Take U To Write This!?
     
         

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    40 minutes..........................
     
         

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    ARE U SERIOUS?!
     
         

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    yes im doing in other one right now

    Itachi became chuunin when he was 10, and that was the time he was allowed to go outside the boundaries of Konoha leading missions. Yes he was already doing D-class missions when he was a genin, but his personality only changed AFTER he was enlisted in the Anbu. He became Anbu when he was 10 1/2 years old, 6 months after becoming a chuunin. So most probably that was the time when he joined AK, when he was around 11 years old. ^_^
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    shodaime no i found te truth i made a new forum in naruto manga the new manga spoiler it has the truth about itachi!!!!
    What a coincidence
     
         

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    that is a crazy post there shodaime, lol took me 4ever
     
         

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    Me too, go read the forum in naruto manga about the spoiler
    I found the spoiler!!!!
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    shodaime no i found te truth i made a new forum in naruto manga the new manga spoiler it has the truth about itachi!!!!
    What a coincidence
    what do u mean madara
     
         

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    Just go read "Naruto manga 398 Full Spoiler" in naruto manga!!
     
         

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    i did that why im doing those thread

    Yes it is. But I believe everyone should be well-informed ^_^

    Kishi screwed up when he drew Itachi looking like a fully-grown man when he defeated Orochimaru.
     
         
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    I meant the one i made!!!
    That has the full spoiler in it!

    I just posted it like 15 minutes ago!
     
         
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    what dont u do a thread how come now u speak
     
         

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    Cuz now i found it!
    Did u read the spoiler i posted?!
    GO READ IT ITS A HUGE SPOILER!
     
         

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    tell me where.........
     
         

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    I already told u!

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    Just go read "Naruto manga 398 Full Spoiler" in naruto manga!!
    This is where i already told u see!
     
         
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    i did my before you.............
     
         

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    hey did you guys catch that naruto manga 400 is coming up? thats should be a celebration :D
     
         

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    yup i will post manga 400 first in this site believed
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by shodaime View Post
    i did my before you.............
    OK BUT I FOUND THE REAL MANGA YOU POSTED IDEAS
     
         

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    itachi was a quiet one an akatsuki. but he like doing is job. but for go to leaf village to get naruto i dont think he was relly serious to get naruto that why he do have pity for is village

    There is no evidence in the manga stating such idea. Root was disbanded because its head, Danzou was a war hawk and opposed the Third Hokage.

    i think kishi was consistent with the timeline apparently itachi joined akatsuki when he was still in konoha serving the anbu. akatsuki might have been spying on the leaf and they decided to have itachi stay a bit longer before carrying out the plan to kill all the uchihas.
     
         
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    oh well now we know itachi killed the clan because he was told by
    kohonda (spelling)
     
         

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    incredible research.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by shodaime View Post
    PROVEN: Itachi Joined Akatsuki When He Was 11 Years Old ( Includes Updated Timeline )



    I have posted this originally in the theories section but I realized it would be more appropriate to post it here ^_^


    Now for my post:

    Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was about 11-years-old. Almost two years before the Uchiha massacre.


    "So why is this necessary?"

    How is it unnecessary?
    This opens SO many doors of discussion:

    How did Itachi and Akatsuki meet when Itachi was a Chuunin?
    Why did Akatsuki make a 10/11 year old boy join Akatsuki?
    Why did Itachi join? Was he forced?
    Itachi wasn't a criminal when he joined....
    How did Itachi get away with being in Akatsuki and ANBU for two years?!
    Did Akatsuki influence Itachi to think the way he does now?
    What was Itachi doing for Akatsuki that required him to STAY in Konoha for 2 years?
    How the heck did Itachi meet Akatsuki or learn about Akatsuki WHEN HE WAS STILL A LEAF?!?!?


    Alright first here's the timeline I've constructed based on the manga and the data book:


    Akatsuki-Oro-Itachi Timeline



    Note: AD = After the Fourth's Death


    0 AD
    Kyuubi no Kitsune attacks Konoha. Naruto is born. Minato pwns Kitsune.

    2 AD
    Itachi graduates as the best in the Academy at the age of 7


    3 AD
    Itachi masters the sharingan at the age of 8

    5 AD
    Itachi turns 10 and becomes a Chuunin.
    Itachi meets Madara and becomes Madara's student.
    Itachi's personality changes because of Madara's influence and teachings.

    5.5 AD
    Itachi officially becomes an Anbu squad member.

    6 AD
    Itachi turns 11 and becomes a full-pledged member of Akatsuki.
    Orochimaru tries to take Itachi as his host.
    Orochimaru fails, has his hand cut off and quits Akatsuki.

    8 AD
    Itachi turns 13 and becomes ANBU captain. (In retrospect, he didn't hold the position long...)



    Later in that year - The Uchiha clan is slaughtered by Madara and Itachi.
    23 July 8 AD. Uchiha Sasuke turns 8.



    9 AD
    Three years are up and Orochimaru takes takes an unknown woman as his second host.


    12 AD
    Start of Naruto. 12 year old Naruto finally graduates.


    13 AD

    1) Orochimaru attacks Konoha. Tries to make Sasuke his third host. Fails again and uses one of his prisoners.
    2) Itachi and Kisame try to capture Naruto, but fail. Zetsu makes his appearance.
    3) Jiraiya promises to teach Naruto, but leaves for three months first. When he returns, he and Naruto go off for training at 13.....
    4) Akatsuki gathers and agrees to wait for three years... Chapter says, "their ambition... if they include the Kyuubi...everything will be in their hands..."


    16 AD
    1) Naruto returns to Konoha at age 15 and a half....
    2) Akatsuki gathers to rip Ichibi out of Gaara. Deidara and Tobi capture Sanbi. Hidan and Kakuzu capture Niibi Kisame captures Yonbi, bringing Akatsuki's total to seven tailed beasts...
    3) Orochimaru prepares for Sasuke to become his fourth host, but is taken over by Sasuke.
    4) The plot continues...



    Alright, somethings you might say about my revelation:

    This is some typo or mistranslation. Who mistranslates numbers? lol.....



    There are now two incidents of retrospect: One from Sasori and one from Kisame. When Sasori said Orochimaru left 7 years ago, Itachi was 18.



    When Kisame says "It's been over ten years," in Chapter 353, Itachi is 21. There is no mistranslation. It is consistent.

    Itachi was not 18 when he tried to kidnap Naruto. He had to have been older. No, he was. He was 17 when the manga started, and 18 when the Part 1 ended. So says the Databook. If you believe that the Databook is incorrect about something as simple as characters ages, then the manga has plenty of evidence toward Itachi's age.



    Sasuke was about to turn 8 ...... Itachi was 13 when Itachi murdered everyone.



    This means that Sasuke was 13 and Itachi was 18 when he tried to kidnap Naruto.

    Why would Itachi join Akatsuki at 11?! It makes no sense! The motivations and secrets of characters are the plot twists that make stories enjoyable. Not understanding the reasoning right now does not mean that the information is false. Up until Chapter 242, we didn't know how Kakashi had a Sharingan, but that didn't mean he didn't have one.

    Are you trying to say that Orochimaru was beaten by an 11-year-old chuunin?! Yes. And it makes perfect sense. How long had Sasuke had Sharingan when Orochimaru tried to take his body? 3 years. How long had Itachi had Sharingan when Orochimaru tried to take his body? 3 years. Itachi and Sasuke had both had the same amount of experience with Sharingan and were at the same level of development. And Orochimaru received the same punishment for trying to take their bodies.

    Well.... Orochimaru must have left Akatsuki years ago, before Itachi came, but snuck back when he heard Itachi joined to take his body. Orochimaru says he left because of Itachi, time and time again... So do other characters. Please do not try to rearrange the sequence of events to make Itachi join Akatsuki at 13 or 14... The numbers don't lie.



    Jiraiya even said that when Orochimaru joined, Itachi was a member...(Manga Proof: Chapter 143 pages 3-7) And we recently see Itachi recruiting Orochimaru's replacement, Deidara!

    Well then, Itachi must have been spying on Akatsuki for Konoha and --- Stop right there. Konoha did not know Akatsuki existed 10 years ago. Jiraiya knew, because he followed Orochimaru, but not Konoha. And Jiraiya did not tell Konoha until years later when he came back. (See above Manga Proof) Not very smart on the hermit's side, but that doesn't mean it isn't the truth. And once again, Jiraiya was the one who informed Konoha that Itachi was even a member of Akatsuki.

    So then, Itachi was in Akatsuki and ANBU at the same time? And no one noticed? Yes. According to Itachi's father and clansmen, when Itachi entered ANBU he's personality completely changed. He started being difficult to talk to and aloof. This is months after he entered Akatsuki...


    It is in this year that Itachi also goes on many "secret missions".... He never even bothers saying that they are ANBU.... Honest and candid until the end, Itachi..... Itachi flakes on responsibilities in his clan.... He then lectures Sasuke on the Purpose of the Shinobi.



    Itachi says, "Shinobi usually live as hated people... To have strength means you become isolated and arrogant... Although at first, you only sought what you have dreamed for... " Sounds pretty somber for a kid who was still a chuunin until that morning...

    "Shinobi are tools, hated naturally for their very purpose: War." A speech that I don't mind saying was almost identical to Pain's speech to Hidan a decade later......( Chapter 329 pages 8-15 )


    It is the same sort of speech he gave to Hidan.

    Itachi became a chuunin at 10. He was finally able to leave the village for missions. Somewhere, at some time, somehow he meets the Akatsuki.The Police Force was created by an ancestor of the Uchiha. Itachi and Sasuke discuss this when Itachi was atleast 10.5 years old and has been a chuunin for 6 months. Itachi then tries to flake on a mission with his father. Has he met Akatsuki already? (7 pages)

    Itachi is officially hired by ANBU at 10.5 years, 6 months after becoming a chuunin. But Itachi has changed since the time he was a chuunin. He is colder to his parents. He talks about secret missions that he has to go on and he sees his line of work as something that is naturally feared and hated.

    By 11, Itachi has become member of the newly formed Akatsuki. Orochimaru sees a promising youth in Itachi and tries to take his body using the Immortality Method he just perfected. It fails and Itachi chops off his hand.


    Months pass. Itachi ranks high in ANBU. Itachi finds a secret room in his clan's temple, where a forbidden scroll is kept. It is about the true purpose of the Sharingan. With the information in these scrolls Itachi gains the unsightly power of MS.

    Itachi expresses his feeling towards being a shinobi. "Am i unpleasant? Shinobi are hated people. To be strong is to be isolated." He then proceeds to kill every member of his family except for his own younger brother, to whom he expresses respect for his brother's deep rooted hatred of him. "In order to reach the height of my capacity, I've lost all hope for this pathetic clan." Itachi mocks his clan for not reaching their capacity. (6 pages)

    One month after his 13th birthday, Itachi, the crimson Moon, walks away from his home as a member of The Akatsuki.


    I don't believe you. Well... That just isn't my problem.

    Your thoughts would be highly appreciated. Thanks for reading.
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    I know my limits... That's why I'm breaking them!!!


    The Legacy
    I wonder if Kishi sits back counts his money and laughs at us for reading so much into this stuff. Like maybe he doesn't even think that far out of the box when he writes this. I mean don't get me wrong I think this manga is very complex and beautifully written but maybe we study a bit much. Just a thought.
     
         

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