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    Itachi the hypocrite?

    Before Edo Itachi went off to face Kabuto he told Naruto that he trusted him to take care of Sasuke:



    Itachi acted like the evil older brother to deceive Sasuke, as a part of this persona he always told Sasuke to kill his best friend and come before him with the mangekyou.



    One may argue that Itachi would not have known that Naruto was Sasuke's best freind, or would become Sasuke's best friend. However, Itachi finds out Naruto's determination to protect Sasuke before his battle with Sasuke:



    Even after this he criticizes Sasuke for not having the mangekyou:



    I know that Itachi was again putting on an act here, but how did he know that Sasuke wasn't going to to kill Naruto? So he trusts Naruto with saving Sasuke, but always told Sasuke to kill naruto. Hypocrite much?
     
         
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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    You said it yourself, it was all an act. Nothing more to it.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    yup
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    An act, portrayal, deception, and manipulation.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Sasuke s goal in all his life was to kill itachi itachi told those words to make him belive his act even more after all itachi knew he was going to die and sasuke didn't care about power afterwards all he wanted was itachi dead so that s it it was a act to convice sasuke he was evil
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    he was testing him maybe? wanted to see if sasuke would actually chose the evil path
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    What I don't get is why Itachi put the order to protect Konoha within KA.to activate upon seeing his Mangekyou. Why not on Sasuke's Sharingan?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    you forget that kishi doesn't plan the whole story out before he started it. you start of with something about itachi and then end with naruto and sasuke?????? but anyways sasuke could have killed naruto but he too was about to fall over unconscious
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Many of you are misunderstanding my question, yes it was as an act but how did Itachi know Sasuke was'nt going to pursue revenge to the extent that he would kill Naruto for the mangekyou. He trusts Naruto with saving Sasuke but he always told Sasuke to kill him.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    he wasn't a hypocrite and how is he when he told naruto that he will leave it to naruto and he will take care of kabuto its not itaichis fault sasuke followed him and also did he do anything about sasuke no he didnt
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    What I don't get is why Itachi put the order to protect Konoha within KA.to activate upon seeing his Mangekyou. Why not on Sasuke's Sharingan?
    Maybe b/c he didnt have access to Sasuke's sharingan? :/
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Itachi's plan was to deceive Sasuke into becoming strong enough to obtain MS/EMS, use it to defend the village and possibly defeat Madara(Tobi at the time).

    He always wanted Sasuke to do the right thing, but knew Sasuke needed to become more powerful than himself in order to accomplish the things Itachi could not. He framed himself and made it look like he massacred everyone just so that he could test his limits, but in actual fact, he wanted to protect Sasuke and make him strong.

    He's not a hypocrite parse, Itachi didn't count on so many things happening, such as Orochimaru stepping in and training Sasuke, or his Amateratsu not affecting Tobi and keeping him away from Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Irregardless, Itachi felt remorse for killing his parents and ruining Sasuke's life. If anything, his attempt at deception is a way to redeem himself and his clan which he sees Sasuke as the only one who can do it. But like any human, Itachi still hopes Sasuke will change but his mistake was in always treating Sasuke as a little brother instead of an equal.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yo Momma San View Post
    Maybe b/c he didnt have access to Sasuke's sharingan? :/
    he didn't have access to Tobi's Sharingan, but he was able to put a Amaterasu trap for it :/
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    What I don't get is why Itachi put the order to protect Konoha within KA.to activate upon seeing his Mangekyou. Why not on Sasuke's Sharingan?
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

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    an act, portrayal, deception, and manipulation.
    this ^^
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    What I don't get is why Itachi put the order to protect Konoha within KA.to activate upon seeing his Mangekyou. Why not on Sasuke's Sharingan?
    Itachi knew that Sasuke would take his eyes to awaken the EMS. That is why he performed the entire act of trying to steal his eyes and explained to him how to get the EMS.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    It was just a way to get Sasuke to gain the power he needed
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    itachi is a psychopath. all he cares about is HIS way of doing things. anyone else besides sasuke are his tools to be manipulated for those ends. even innocent people.

    Itachi knew that Sasuke would take his eyes to awaken the EMS
    no he didnt. he BELIEVED that but had absolutely no grounds for it. if sasuke did it would mean that obito had succeeded in turning him against everyone. and that would mean itachi always intended for that to happen which makes the ammy assassination attempt pointless. sasukes not a medic. hed probably kill himself trying to do eye surgery without obitos help.

    it it was a act to convice sasuke he was evil
    which succeeded. itachi is evil, he tried to order the murders of innocent people.

    he wasn't a hypocrite and how is he when he told naruto that he will leave it to naruto and he will take care of kabuto its not itaichis fault sasuke followed him and also did he do anything about sasuke no he didnt
    exactly. so the KA genjutsu was telling itachi he should do everything alone while telling others they shouldnt. and its also telling him a genocidal psychopath who wants to destroy everything and everyone in konoha shouldnt be taken down.

    Itachi's plan was to deceive Sasuke into becoming strong enough to obtain MS/EMS, use it to defend the village and possibly defeat Madara(Tobi at the time).
    if he had MS and EMS it would mean he slaughtered two people (naruto and itachi) and 99% likely that hes evil for doing that. hence KA plan. if he thought genuinely that sasuke would be good with EMS without needing to be brainwashed then that makes the KA plan entirely pointless. i mean if hes forced to "protect konoha" what does that mean? does it mean if konoha invades another country he wont try and help them even if it means both sides get wiped out, or not stop danzo because he is "konoha"? itachi never even put any real guidelines on that brainwashing. meaning sasuke can find loopholes and still find a way to be evil

    Irregardless, Itachi felt remorse for killing his parents and ruining Sasuke's life
    no he didnt. he was planning on enslaving and brainwashing sasuke for the rest of his life. this is beyond cruel and evil and one of the worst acts in the manga so far. it took a shit on his parents last request meaning he didnt give a shit about them either

    He always wanted Sasuke to do the right thing, but knew Sasuke needed to become more powerful than himself in order to accomplish the things Itachi could not. He framed himself and made it look like he massacred everyone just so that he could test his limits, but in actual fact, he wanted to protect Sasuke and make him strong.
    no he ruined sasukes life and brutally and savagely mindraped him three times, even putting him in a coma once. this isnt protecting him. this is TORTURING A CHILD. itachis a brutal evil psychopath. forcing sasuke to become a traitor and permanently mess up his mind isnt heartwarming brotherly love, its purely sociopathic brainwashing. born out of a desire to die at his hands rather than turning himself in and letting tsunade pass judgement. itachi didnt care about his own villages rules and laws, only about forcing his own brother to become a murderer and eventually, an enslaved brainwashed puppet.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    You pretty much answered your own question. "How did Itachi know Sasuke wasn't going to kill Naruto?" He didn't, He had no idea Naruto would later become his closest friend. He had no idea of Naruto's resolve. He had no way of knowing to what extent Naruto would go to save his friend. The fight in the end was merely an act to finally die by Sasuke hands.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi28 View Post
    Itachi knew that Sasuke would take his eyes to awaken the EMS. That is why he performed the entire act of trying to steal his eyes and explained to him how to get the EMS.
    I know, but wouldn't it have been easier to do it in Sasuke's Sharingan or regular eyes? That way, the chance of failure would have been significantly decreased.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Too many hopes and wishes. Too many risks and mistakes. And we know the results of those: Sasuke became a pursuer of hatred and revenge.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMTwister View Post
    Too many hopes and wishes. Too many risks and mistakes. And we know the results of those: Sasuke became a pursuer of hatred and revenge.
    Yeah that's what I'm saying, Itachi took a huge risk with Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    What I don't get is why Itachi put the order to protect Konoha within KA.to activate upon seeing his Mangekyou. Why not on Sasuke's Sharingan?
    What do you mean, it was meant for sasukes EMS, which are itachis eyes
     
         

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    Re: Itachi the hypocrite?

    My guess is that Itachi wanted to see if Sasuke actually would give so much into hatred that he would forget his friends to get his revenge. Which he wouldn't have done if it hadn't been for Tobi ( Obito ).
     
         

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