Infinite Tsukuyomi : lamest evil masterplan ever

[raziel777]

Seriously, what kind of evil masterplan is that ? A dreamworld... Madara said he wants to create a world where words like winner or loser hold no meaning. I can't help but think that he's just doing it out of pique. Hashirama kicked his butt every single time and he just can't accept it. Obito is just the usual brainwashed disciple, and all because of one girl. Who would want to live a lie ? Not me. Madara/Obito are the black sheeps in the great realm of true villains. Just my thoughts. What do you think ?

[Sasuke of the akatsuki]

It's also a world thats under their control

[-Carnage-]

i like the INFINITE TSUKUYOMI plan

[Braveknight]

lame but works. /thread

[TheAwesomeOne]

Maybe it's not evil.. Have you thought about that?

[Kyuubi Uzumaki]

well yup and no because its a cool plan for me

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Seriously, what kind of evil masterplan is that ? A dreamworld... Madara said he wants to create a world where words like winner or loser hold no meaning. I can't help but think that he's just doing it out of pique. Hashirama kicked his butt every single time and he just can't accept it. Obito is just the usual brainwashed disciple, and all because of one girl. Who would want to live a lie ? Not me. Madara/Obito are the black sheeps in the great realm of true villains. Just my thoughts. What do you think ?

Hashirama didn't beat him every time, he just won their final fight.

[Harry Balzac]

It's pretty much real when everyone enters your dreamworld lmao

[rainman00]

You really think madara cares about winners or losers he just saying that to achieve his goal all he want is the power of the sage and rule the world by force n madara has the best genjustu of all time

[Ritsu]

Hashirama didn't beat him every time, he just won their final fight.

Yes he did.

It's bad....but it has good intentions. So yes, I guess your right.

[raziel777]

It's also a world thats under their control

Yes but they would know that it's a lie. Obito kissing Rin would know she is just a construct, her love is not real. Madara being king of the world would know that it's all just bs. The world would rot, people would basically be sitting doing nothing. Where's the thrill in controling a fake world ?

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Yes he did.

It's bad....but it has good intentions. So yes, I guess your right.

So there is a chapter that has the records of every Hashirama and Madara fight, and How many times they have fought. Where is this Manga Chapter cause i missed one.
Oh thats right you can't show me one, no one knows how many times they fought. only kishi so til stated by kishi you can't just make-up imaginary fights between Madara and Hashirama, just for hashirama to win.

[raziel777]

Maybe it's not evil.. Have you thought about that?

What do you mean by not evil ? Do you think Madara is doing it for the greater good ? That he's full of love and he wants to share it and hug the world ? Madara is being pretty selfish. No loser, no winner. That's what he wants, his perfect world. He's not a savior, nor his Obito.

[Strata Spartan]

Maybe it's not evil.. Have you thought about that?

^ Oh it be evil bro, for the main hero of the story and Killer B would have to sacrifice there life for this Eye of the Moon Plan to come to fruition.

[PhatBoyFresh]

I bet Madara still loses to Hashirama in the dream world.

[WindStyleCXR]

I think its lake too.

[ObitobiLoL]

The hell you going on about? First off Madara never claimed to be evil. Kishimoto wrote the story to make you decide it yourself. But in reality he is just tired of fighting. A world of peace sounds nice to me, you can keep the death and animosity I'll take a genjutsu world that resembles the matrix.

Also to top it off, Madara is pretty much a "good" guy if you think logically about his plan

[Aaroninja]

They are basically saying, we aren't going to take over the world, we are going to create a new dream world and force you all into it.

[raziel777]

Madara is pretty much a "good" guy if you think logically about his plan

He's robbing you of your free will and you're fine with that ? Sorry but I like to think that my life and my future should be mine alone to determine. Madara is not a good guy. Hashirama won the hokage job, won again the valley of death. Why did madara attack? His ego was stomped on. If he hates the fighting, try to make the world a better place like good people do. Good people do not deceive others

[KiraGirl K]

Obito's backstory is lame - so is his plan.

[Chatte]

The base of this plan is a lie. Everything they'll be experiencing it's a total lie, so yeah, in a way, it's kinda lame.
From Obito's perspective you'd think, aww so sweet and stuff.
But from Madara's perspective, well, he's just a selfish character that wants to rule by force because no one in real world would accept his "kingdom". His own Uchihas weren't agreeing with him, what would you expect from the others?

[jaykuhz]

the Uchiha's are sensitive.

[Edo Combaticus]

LOL at the people saying Madara could be a good guy... He wants to basically enslave everyone and use them as his puppets in his fake little world. How could that possibly be construed as good?

[peteriscoo]

I wish Road to Ninja would leak already so we could see what the dream world would really be like. the folks over in japan must have a way better perspective of infinite tsukuyomi for getting a taste of it. And dont give me that "Its not manga, its not cannon" B.S. kishi wrote and supervised the movie. I know it looks like fanfair but trust me, I think it will answer a lot about the whole dreamworld thing

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

He's robbing you of your free will and you're fine with that ? Sorry but I like to think that my life and my future should be mine alone to determine. Madara is not a good guy. Hashirama won the hokage job, won again the valley of death. Why did madara attack? His ego was stomped on. If he hates the fighting, try to make the world a better place like good people do. Good people do not deceive others

Senju deceive uchiha.
Senju aren't good people either