Re: Susano'o = Tsukuyomi + Amaterasu. Separate sharingan eyes gain the same ability.
So here is my thoughts
I see you try to make this thread some sort of "proof" or "statement", well you cannot make such assumption with the evidence from the manga saying otherwise. I can only disagree with a lot of what you are saying. First I wanna say a bit about the databook:
So I cannot use evidence from Databooks as valid, and this case wont be the first that is possible to disprove. In the end, we the fans, probably knows more about what is in the manga than even Kishi himself. Think about how many chapters he made. He doesn't have time to look through them a lot, and he has to use a lot of work on planning the future. He can't possibly remember every little detail about a jutsu.
We know for a fact that Sasuke has Amaterasu and so does Itachi, the tsukuyomi seems to differ, and no direct proof exists that Sasuke has tsukuyomi, though it appears he has something which is weaker - according to Danzo, but that doesn't matter, lets just say he has it. He also used something on Bee, but clearly not at the level of tsukuyomi, but it appears to be more like the one he used on Shi. A simply paralyzing genjutsu, though I can't remember if he used MS when he used it on Bee, but it was not MS on Shi though. Never mind.
Amaterasu was given to Sasuke by Itachi. That is why it is placed in his left eye as he awoke MS. He gives it to him here:
This proves the relation between them isn't completely the same.. Some MS happens to awake the same ability, yes, as you said:
But that only goes for Shisuis - also as you said. Kakashis and Obitos are very different from Shisuis eyes. But as I see it Obitos eyes are more like Itachis eyes, so to me this evidence is kind of invalid for the purpose, though I cannot disprove it completely. Itachi got amaterasu and tsukuyomi which means the sun and the moon:
1. Shisui Uchiha -> One eye on Danzo => Kotoamatsukami
-> One eye on Itachi => Kotoamatsukami.
2. Obito Uchiha -> One eye on his own => Kamui
-> One eye on Kakashi => Kamui.
Which means they are opposite of eachother. You could say they bring forth a great amount of physical damange and mental damage, which is 2 very different usabilities, though in the end it has the same cause. This goes for Obitos eyes as well.
I believe you need this in order to awaken Susano, thus even Obito should be able to use it, if he had both his eyes. However, this might not even be true. Susano can even remain active or be activated without having your sharingan activated, so it might not even be related to the eyes, though I doubt this due to statements in the manga. So never mind it.
Now lets go to where my main case lies. Uchiha Madara clearly has not shown to be capable of using either Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. If he had I'm of the believe Kishi would have shown us. Madara had countless of options to use either, but he didn't and this alone should be enough to say that you don't need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to awaken susanoo.
As I would go even further to say that the best proof would be that their Susanos are different!!! The way they look, as well as their usabilities and strength. Thus I can't really see that they must be related to certain jutsu as well. It seems more likely to be as I said that the jutsu has to be connected, but yet opposite of eachother. Like the moon and the sun.
A short note to that evidence, it is only the meaning I used, not the connection in which Itachi said it, since that would be a completely different debate, thus it could have 2 meanings. Either Kisame knew that Itachi had Susano, and he wondered why he didn't use it to take out Jiraya, but Itachi said he should spare it.
He was implying that they still had plenty of time to capture Naruto (which is the most likely), but yet weird that he is referring to the moon and the sun, since (I suppose?) they didn't know about the moons eye plan. Though it is not impossible since they both knew about Madara (Obito).