MS Sasuke vs SM Naruto

[Sage Mode Jiraiya]

Sasuke fans keep saying that naruto is this strong only because he was given 9tails power and he doesant deserve it (i think he does deserve it because he trained hard to controll 9tails) and than naruto fans say that sasuke is only strong because he was given itachis eyes and he doesnt deserve it (witch i think is true because he did nothing but transplant his eyes to gain that powerup).
So if we take both of theirs "undeserved" powers from them and they fight who do you think will win?

I think Naruto wins because if he has no 9tails inside him he can fuse with ma and pa and sustain sage mode for as long as he wants.

[Icelerate]

I've always felt that the Sasuke who fought Danzo was slightly stronger than the Naruto that fought Pain. Still if Naruto decides to use frog song, Sasuke will have to fly away on his hawk to escape the sound waves or else he gets owned.

Susanoo can pretty much tank most of Naruto's attacks but the FRS will do some damage depending on the stage. I think FRS destroys V1 susanoo but it will take two FRS to destroy a V2 susanoo and three FRS to destroy a V3 susanoo. Still Naruto can't spam FRS in sage mode unless we are talking about Naruto with the Kyubbi's chakra which should be excluded.

Naruto can avoid amaterasu by using bunshin feints but amaterasu will spread and destroy multiple clones. Sasuke can also control those existing black flames thereby killing more clones and summons.

Once kirin is prepped, Sasuke would dish out even more damage. Susanoo arrows can probably be dodged by SM Naruto but he could still take out boss summons and a line up of clones.

I already made a thread saying that a rasengan barrage will have a minimum effect on susanoo so that spam move should be put out of the equation.

Also Sasuke doesn't have to rely on the susanoo at the very beginning of the fight as I'm sure he can hold his own for a while even without it. If Sasuke uses chakra resourcefully, he should win this albeit with extreme difficulty. Stuff like basic chidori techs such as chidori senbons, chidori nagashi and chidori sharp spear should also come in handy at times when Sasuke wants to preserve his chakra. If Sasuke manages to paralyse Naruto, the fight is pretty much his.

Still if Sasuke doesn't use susanoo he will get overwhelmed by shadow clones, frog katas, rasengan and rasenshuriken so he will definitely need to pull it out for a long duration of the fight.

[TheSages456]

make this kcm naruto then we have a much better match. ms sasuke beats sm naruto with enton, amaterasu and arrows. sm naruto isnt on the same level as this:

this was the moment that sasuke completely eclipsed sm narutos strength and kcm was needed. ms sasuke without this susano still beats sm naruto however.

[adeshina365]

Realistically how would Naruto defend against Amaterasu?

Some seem to think he can sense it then somehow magically dodge it.

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke wins

[kyubbi sagemode]

Naruto

[OWanime]

yeah sasuke fanboys sorry but naruto wins when he doesn't have susanoo; nagato sensed amaterasu by the pressure and it was stated that he's a sensor too (naruto is the best sensor because of sage mode +km maybe) so he can detect it; weak tsukuyomi is defeated by ma + pa breaking him out of it and kirin can be possibly canceled out by rs; soung genjutsu will own sasuke because he couldn't see it like vs kabuto so he would be caught if he had no hawks close but naruto wins

[shyarkugan]

they both die imo

[Vitality]

I'm going to side with SM Naruto

[Cowthulhu45]

Naruto is screwed. He needs Kyuubi mode to beat full susanoo. Even KCM wont work.

Also, in my opinion, SM, MS and EMS aren't powerups because they are all just some some crazy overpowered jutsu.

[Sunagura]

50/50

[Simple Math]

they're supposed to be equal, but if those 2 fought i would say Ms Sasuke takes the victory here with high diff.

[Naruto The Coming Hokage]

make this kcm naruto then we have a much better match. ms sasuke beats sm naruto with enton, amaterasu and arrows. sm naruto isnt on the same level as this:

this was the moment that sasuke completely eclipsed sm narutos strength and kcm was needed. ms sasuke without this susano still beats sm naruto however.

Too end your fail post. Ms sasuke does not have susano'o only ems. /end of post

[KidGamer65]

Too end your fail post. Ms sasuke does not have susano'o only ems. /end of post

Retard much? That is MS Sasuke.

[Naruto The Coming Hokage]

Retard much? That is MS Sasuke.

he said MS sasuke NOT EMS SASUKE WHICH HAS SUSANO'O YOU IDIOT

[KidGamer65]

he said MS sasuke NOT EMS SASUKE WHICH HAS SUSANO'O YOU IDIOT

Both MS and EMS Sasuke have Susanoo, and that was MS Sasuke in the scan, with Susanoo.

Like I said before, retard much?

[shyarkugan]

he said MS sasuke NOT EMS SASUKE WHICH HAS SUSANO'O YOU IDIOT

dafuq are you talking about. That scan blatantly shows Sasuke has susanoo with MS.

[Naruto The Coming Hokage]

dafuq are you talking about. That scan blatantly shows Sasuke has susanoo with MS.

You need ems to unlock susano'o

[KidGamer65]

You need ems to unlock susano'o

Look at the damn picture a few posts up, that is BEFORE Sasuke got EMS and it shows him using Susanoo.

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

You need ems to unlock susano'o

Get your facts right, You need MS to unlock Susano'o, you need EMS to unlock Perfect Susano'o.

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

MS Sasuke that fought Danzo was a little bit Stronger than SM Naruto as SM Naruto is not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu or if Sasuke has enough prep time won't be able to defend himself against Kirin.