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    you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    a lot of people say that in the databooks, it states you need both amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo but i think this is incorrect. you don't need both, you just need the power of two MS sharingans. take a look.



    he says 'along with' meaning that susanoo was the third techinque after the first two, he does not however say that amaterasu and tsukuyomi are needed.



    Sasuke says that only those who can control the double mangekyou can use susanoo meaning that only those who have mastered their MS abilities can obtain susanoo.



    when obito says a 'a sharingan that can activate even susanoo', i think he is referring to the fact that not everyone who had MS could master it.

    lets take a look at the people who we knew had MS.

    Madara: has used susanoo but has yet to use tsukuyomi or amaterasu

    Izuna: if madara had it ima guess and say he had it too

    Itachi: was a genius even for an uchiha and able to master MS to use susanoo

    Sasuke: like it or not sasuke was also talented and was able to use susanoo

    Obito: his potential is unknown as he only has 1 of his eyes and as stated by madara, both eyes are needed to use the full power of the sharingan. he may have been able to use susanoo if he had both. i believe that this is part of kishi plot to weaken obito and make madara stronger. as obito also had senju dna i believe he would also have been able to use PS. he would have had 2 teachniques in kamui and the S/T technique (which might also be called kamui but they are different powers)

    Shisui: now he is the confusing 1 because although he had both eyes, as far as we know he had the same technique in both eyes. it could be possible that he had another technique and did not master it like he did kotoamatsukami. it could be that he did master his other technique and could use susanoo but we never got to see it. only kishi knows lol.

    i think the only reason why both itachi and sasuke use tsukuyomi and amaterasu has something to do with the fact that they are brothers or because itachi gave sasuke his power.

    i am not saying that i am 100% correct but hopefully kishi will give us some answers, through madara.

    right now, the answer rests on whether or not madara can use tsukuyomi or amaterasu, until he does then i think my theory is correct
     
         
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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    i agree....madara hasn't used amaterasu yet...still he has PERFECT susano'o...
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo your title

    your right you need 2 ms eyes, but your wrong you need to unlock both amat and tuskyomi to ever use suasnoo
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Power down Obito? He's already OP with Kamui, Rinnegan, Wood Release and Fire Release.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by UCHIHAMADARAXTREAM View Post
    i agree....madara hasn't used amaterasu yet...still he has PERFECT susano'o...
    exactly, there are both powerful techniques, why not use them

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Rib View Post
    you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo your title

    your right you need 2 ms eyes, but your wrong you need to unlock both amat and tuskyomi to ever use suasnoo
    and which 1 of the uchihas says that those are the conditions
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by MellowHype View Post
    Power down Obito? He's already OP with Kamui, Rinnegan, Wood Release and Fire Release.
    exactly that why he was robbed of his other eye lol
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    nowhere has it ever said that you NEED ama/tsuk to activate Susano'o. the data books, whoever writes that i doubt has any connections to Kishi and people who believe this, will tell you an orange is blue. i stand by your opinion until PROVEN so, with proof not opinions.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Thanks you and people need to learn that when they read about Susanoo in the databooks its under Itachis characer page so it DESCRIBES HIS SUSANOO AND THE WAY HE GOT IT AND HOW IT ACTIVATED FOR HIM.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    I think sasuke dosen't have tsukyomi
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    when obito says a 'susanoo that can activate even susanoo', i think he is referring to the fact that not everyone who had MS could master it.
    Susanoo that can activate Susanoo ?!?
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Shino Swagg View Post
    Susanoo that can activate Susanoo ?!?
    obito never said anything like that He said a sharingan that can activate susano is rare.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Konohas Silent Assassin View Post
    nowhere has it ever said that you NEED ama/tsuk to activate Susano'o. the data books, whoever writes that i doubt has any connections to Kishi and people who believe this, will tell you an orange is blue. i stand by your opinion until PROVEN so, with proof not opinions.
    exactly, thanks man

    Quote Originally Posted by xMadara View Post
    Thanks you and people need to learn that when they read about Susanoo in the databooks its under Itachis characer page so it DESCRIBES HIS SUSANOO AND THE WAY HE GOT IT AND HOW IT ACTIVATED FOR HIM.
    sooo true

    Quote Originally Posted by uchihamad View Post
    I think sasuke dosen't have tsukyomi
    he does but his is weaker, he is more skilled with amaterasu

    Quote Originally Posted by Shino Swagg View Post
    Susanoo that can activate Susanoo ?!?
    lol thanks for noticing that, ill correct that now
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    lol thanks for noticing that, ill correct that now
    ok
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    You do need amateratsu and tsukoyomi for susano'o. Most people know that a lot of Naruto is based on Japanese Mythology. Susano'o is Amateratsu and tsukoyomi's brother, already showing that there's relation between the three. Tsukoyomi symbolizes darkness of spiritual world, and is the moon god and Amateratsu symbolizeslight in real world, heavens, the sun god. in Mythology, Izanagi, a deity of the divine generations, washed out his left eye, and amateratsu was born, he washed out his right eye, and Amateratsu was born, when he washed his nose, Susano'o was born. This proves that they are all linked and what is in between both, is susano'o.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    You do need amateratsu and tsukoyomi for susano'o. Most people know that a lot of Naruto is based on Japanese Mythology. Susano'o is Amateratsu and tsukoyomi's brother, already showing that there's relation between the three. Tsukoyomi symbolizes darkness of spiritual world, and is the moon god and Amateratsu symbolizeslight in real world, heavens, the sun god. in Mythology, Izanagi, a deity of the divine generations, washed out his left eye, and amateratsu was born, he washed out his right eye, and Amateratsu was born, when he washed his nose, Susano'o was born. This proves that they are all linked and what is in between both, is susano'o.
    yes we all know that but like i said until madara uses amaterasu or tsukuyomi or an uchiha states that those are the conditions then that is incorrect.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Konohas Silent Assassin View Post
    nowhere has it ever said that you NEED ama/tsuk to activate Susano'o. the data books, whoever writes that i doubt has any connections to Kishi and people who believe this, will tell you an orange is blue. i stand by your opinion until PROVEN so, with proof not opinions.
    Did you just say whoever writes the data book has no close relation to kishi? it's kishi who writes them *facepalm* so basically you just told us orange is blue 0.o
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    yes we all know that but like i said until madara uses amaterasu or tsukuyomi or an uchiha states that those are the conditions then that is incorrect.
    ok, but for now it's more likely then to just say no, since there's evidence in what i posted that they're related, and EVERYTHING in Naruto is related to Japanese Mythology. I think it's enough to know from what I said that amateratsu was born from the left eye and tsukoyomi from the right...
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    lol read the databooks. they state you need both techniques to use sussannoo. third databook is on the website o
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    Did you just say whoever writes the data book has no close relation to kishi? it's kishi who writes them *facepalm* so basically you just told us orange is blue 0.o
    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    lol read the databooks. they state you need both techniques to use sussannoo. third databook is on the website o
    by databooks, i take it u mean wiki? wiki can be edited by anyone right?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    ok, but for now it's more likely then to just say no, since there's evidence in what i posted that they're related, and EVERYTHING in Naruto is related to Japanese Mythology. I think it's enough to know from what I said that amateratsu was born from the left eye and tsukoyomi from the right...
    no not really because although sasuke could use amaterasu from his left and tsukuyomi from his right, it was the other way round for itachi. itach used tsukuyomi from his left and amaterasu from his right
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    we really dont know but according to the databook u need both. it can be safely assumed madara has amaterasu. i dont get why ppl obsess over details like this anyway. we can all just agree that you need 2 mangekyo sharingan to use susano
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Databook disagrees.


    And don't try to say it only refers to Itachi's cause it says "those whose eyes have awakened to Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi can use Susanoo" ---something along the lines of that.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Namikaze Haru View Post
    by databooks, i take it u mean wiki? wiki can be edited by anyone right?
    no. Why would anyone call wiki databook to begin with? It's first hand info from Kishi. Databook, it's what it sounds like. See all those stats for example rating 1-5 how good characters are at specific talents? It's from the
    databooks

    Like the post above me ^ Nice link btw, it proves that Sasuke knows tsukuyomi which some people like to deny
     
         
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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    You need a double mangekyou for it, not the techniques.
    Sasuke does'nt posses Tsukiyomi either, its just ''genjutsu sharingan'' as confirmed in the fight with Kabuto.

    Sasuke's MS techniques are emoterasu and Blaze release or something.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by shri3kbat View Post
    no. Why would anyone call wiki databook to begin with? It's first hand info from Kishi. Databook, it's what it sounds like. See all those stats for example rating 1-5 how good characters are at specific talents? It's from the
    databooks

    Like the post above me ^ Nice link btw, it proves that Sasuke knows tsukuyomi which some people like to deny
    i see but the databook can be seen as wrong, you know why coz i just read on naruto wiki that according to the 'databook' if an uchiha trains hard enough, he will be able to use kamui yet we ALL know that only kakashi and obito can use kamui because its obito's jutsu. so the databook dosen't confirm anything. we will have to wait for kishi to show us confirmation.
     
         

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    Re: you DO NOT need amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    Databook disagrees.


    And don't try to say it only refers to Itachi's cause it says "those whose eyes have awakened to Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi can use Susanoo" ---something along the lines of that.
    EVEN this can be seen as false because this is all based on itachi, neither sasuke or madara have the yata mirror or totsuka blade so like i said even the 'databook' is unreliable.
     
         

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