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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoChangeSasuke View Post
    Did you figure out or did anyone reply? I also do not know what he was doing? :L
    Tobi removed the flowers from one of the bottles on Rin's grave stone which was probably put by kakashi when he was there and while trowing it he summons the kyuubi . if you look at it closely its like a gesture in regards to the action he is about to do ?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Naruto Uzumaki and Uchiha Sasuke were both friends before the were born their mothers were very good friends till the point that narutos mum almost told sasuke's mum where and when Naruto was to be born .this shows that their friendship didn't just star as being rivals .So gay remove the toughts of sasuke killing naruto or naruto killing sasuke but the will some how find out that their parents were best of friends am sure sasuke will find out for sure.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Madara's awesome, well thought out plan lol:
    1. He had to get killed by Hirashima in order to even start it, requiring that he be resurrected later.
    2. But the act of getting killed by Hirashima, he ended up stuck in an underground cavern tethered to cells made from the guy he hated most of all.
    3. His only ability to interact with the world was from clones made from cells of the guy he hated most of all.
    4. He would have been completely and utterly unable to accomplish even STEP ONE of his plan without the utterly random, completely chance-based event of Obito getting crushed into a tunnel right where Madara was trapped.
    5. He had to rely completely on luck that Obito would buy into his ideology.
    6. He also had to rely completely on the actions of OTHER people in order to convince Obito to follow him (IE Kakashi had to kill Rin, the Rain ninja had to attack them, yadda yadda).
    7. He stuck his eyes into Nagato (WHEN?!?!?) as a means of resurrecting himself, but had NO plan to get Nagato to come around to wanting to rez him. For all we know, Nagato was going to use Gedo Mazo to blow up cities and couldn't have cared less about Madara.
    8. He had to get all the Bijju, but had no plan on how to do it.
    9. His minion did a bunch of crap that was directly against the Moon Eye Plan (attacking Konoha, not teleporting around & stealing the Bijju, et al...).
    10. The 'plan' ASSUMED they wouldn't be able to catch all the Bijju, and set up a whole WAR to serve as nothing but bait to lure out the last Bijju...
    11. BUUUUUT... The whole "war" distraction hinged entirely on the completely random event of Kabuto joining up, capturing Yamato, powering up the Zetsus, and supplying a bunch of Edo Tensei zombies. Otherwise the Zetsu armies would have been utterly annihilated by the Alliance.
    12. Also required was the totally random event of Kabuto supplying Ginkaku and Kinkaku 9-Tail chakra.
    13. Also required the totally random event of getting ahold of a Hachibi tentacle.

    And frankly, I'm not even getting started. Madara's "plan" was (and IS) a complete, total, 100% fluster-cuck of absolute random bullcrap totally lining at the just the right time, as well as wholly UNINVOLVED persons doing exactly what Madara would have wanted in the most intricate way possible of their own volition with no prompting or influence of any kind.

    It's stupid writing on a level that quite frankly I don't think I've ever even SEEN before...

    ...and I've read the first chapter of "Eragon". (rimshot)

    Kishimoto changed a lot over the course of the manga.
    The new generation surpassing the previous seems like a joke for me, but it's up to how you interpret that line.
    Part 1 no longer holds any meaning, since it doesn't fit with the current events or rather with Part 2 anymore.

    The fight between Hiruzen vs. Orochimaru is nothing more than an below average Jounin battle
    Hashirama leveled up to a god during Part 2
    Hiruzen, who was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages, is nowhere near the level of Oonoki, Gaara, A and probably Mei
    Well Said. This is what has been bothering me about not just this chapter, but the entire series.
    The entire thing seems like it wasn't planned at all, and I'm referring to Kishi's writing. Just bad writing in general.
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Of course he'll get killed Gaara died got revived by lady Chiyo who then died Kakashi died got revived by Nagato who later died as a result Gaara got owned by Madara and died... i see no hope for Kakashi after Gaara died he's bound to die
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranificent View Post
    Madara's awesome, well thought out plan lol:
    1. He had to get killed by Hirashima in order to even start it, requiring that he be resurrected later.
    2. But the act of getting killed by Hirashima, he ended up stuck in an underground cavern tethered to cells made from the guy he hated most of all.
    3. His only ability to interact with the world was from clones made from cells of the guy he hated most of all.
    4. He would have been completely and utterly unable to accomplish even STEP ONE of his plan without the utterly random, completely chance-based event of Obito getting crushed into a tunnel right where Madara was trapped.
    5. He had to rely completely on luck that Obito would buy into his ideology.
    6. He also had to rely completely on the actions of OTHER people in order to convince Obito to follow him (IE Kakashi had to kill Rin, the Rain ninja had to attack them, yadda yadda).
    7. He stuck his eyes into Nagato (WHEN?!?!?) as a means of resurrecting himself, but had NO plan to get Nagato to come around to wanting to rez him. For all we know, Nagato was going to use Gedo Mazo to blow up cities and couldn't have cared less about Madara.
    8. He had to get all the Bijju, but had no plan on how to do it.
    9. His minion did a bunch of crap that was directly against the Moon Eye Plan (attacking Konoha, not teleporting around & stealing the Bijju, et al...).
    10. The 'plan' ASSUMED they wouldn't be able to catch all the Bijju, and set up a whole WAR to serve as nothing but bait to lure out the last Bijju...
    11. BUUUUUT... The whole "war" distraction hinged entirely on the completely random event of Kabuto joining up, capturing Yamato, powering up the Zetsus, and supplying a bunch of Edo Tensei zombies. Otherwise the Zetsu armies would have been utterly annihilated by the Alliance.
    12. Also required was the totally random event of Kabuto supplying Ginkaku and Kinkaku 9-Tail chakra.
    13. Also required the totally random event of getting ahold of a Hachibi tentacle.

    And frankly, I'm not even getting started. Madara's "plan" was (and IS) a complete, total, 100% fluster-cuck of absolute random bullcrap totally lining at the just the right time, as well as wholly UNINVOLVED persons doing exactly what Madara would have wanted in the most intricate way possible of their own volition with no prompting or influence of any kind.

    It's stupid writing on a level that quite frankly I don't think I've ever even SEEN before...

    ...and I've read the first chapter of "Eragon". (rimshot)

    Kishimoto changed a lot over the course of the manga.
    The new generation surpassing the previous seems like a joke for me, but it's up to how you interpret that line.
    Part 1 no longer holds any meaning, since it doesn't fit with the current events or rather with Part 2 anymore.

    The fight between Hiruzen vs. Orochimaru is nothing more than an below average Jounin battle
    Hashirama leveled up to a god during Part 2
    Hiruzen, who was said to be the strongest of the 5 Kages, is nowhere near the level of Oonoki, Gaara, A and probably Mei



    Is Hashi really really really that strong????

    I watched the fight where Orochimaru summoned Edo 1st and 2nd, and Hiruzen managed to seal them.
    Not sure if it was because Orochimaru had not perfected Edo Tensie but the impression that I got is he's not that great apart from being born in greatness.

    Why didnt Obito take his eye????

    You on point there, this manga is made up as we go along..... pity
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    What Im thinking now is that if that is still not the real Naruto, then the real one is probably trying completely perfect the sync with the kyubi somewhere and he will come back after this clone naruto is defeated..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    I'm still against obito being tobi. I don't like the plot turn. But I'm enjoying watching kishi explain how it all came to pass. I wonder if kakashi can stand against tobi and if naruto can stand against madaras edo. Scary stuff for sure...

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Omningan View Post
    I'm still against obito being tobi. I don't like the plot turn. But I'm enjoying watching kishi explain how it all came to pass. I wonder if kakashi can stand against tobi and if naruto can stand against madaras edo. Scary stuff for sure...

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    I can't believe that you still believe tobi is not obito!!!!! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GO THE WAY YOU THINK DOESN'T MAKE IT CORRECT OVER WHAT THE WRITER SAYS ITS HIS STORY SO SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IT SHOWS IS THAT YOUR IMMATURE AND U CAN'T HANDEL THAT IT WON'T GO YOUR WAY IT'S STUPID AND SOUNDS LIKE A 2 YEAR OLD
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Few more days..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Yugito View Post
    I can't believe that you still believe tobi is not obito!!!!! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GO THE WAY YOU THINK DOESN'T MAKE IT CORRECT OVER WHAT THE WRITER SAYS ITS HIS STORY SO SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL IT SHOWS IS THAT YOUR IMMATURE AND U CAN'T HANDEL THAT IT WON'T GO YOUR WAY IT'S STUPID AND SOUNDS LIKE A 2 YEAR OLD
    :ghehe: And you sound like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum over something so trivial if he wants to be delusional let him be plus I find no reason for you to spam using caps. So Before you go accusing someone being a 2 year old please take a good look at yourself since you seem to be acting immature youself.

    On to the topic I give it a 3 out of 5 it left to many questions unanswered in my book that's a no no but pretty sure the whole " I didn't kill Rin or it was an accident speech will take place in the Kakashi V.S. Obito fight...Kakashi might die due too turning Obito into a good guy. but we can only wait and see what the next chapter will give us....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    I think a lot of people are misunderstanding this chapter.. i think that Obito obviously didnt summon the Kyuubi in the graveyard... it was just the kishi connecting one scene to another.. just like he did when the tailed beast ball was about to hit the stone monument, and he went back to naruto. I think it was an excellent transition.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    the rookies might finally arrive at naruto's location. they swore to protect him since the entire war is about kyuubi. so if naruto solos madara without help from the rookies i will be dissapointed.

    basically either they show up to help naruto or he gets captured.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    I really feel pity for my Kakashi
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    2morrow >>>>>>>>>
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    End of issue 607 states "The manga will take a break next week. It will be resumed in issue #50".

    Are we about to have a time jump or really bad translating happening?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Is Kishimoto really not gonna explain why Kakashi killed Rin?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ibrahim- View Post
    Is Kishimoto really not gonna explain why Kakashi killed Rin?
    Obito doesn't know why, so why do you expect that to be in obito's flashback?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by wondersland View Post
    i really liked the but there are still too many things left unkniwn and now that the flashbacks are over, probably wont be explained anymore..
    1. what happend to the spiral one?
    2. how did obito know where exactly naruto was born?
    3. how did he get the knowledge to break the sealing on kushina?
    4. why the name "tobi" and since when??

    Anyway, concerning nagato, he probably joined when yahiko died where he raged and summoned GM, after seeing what he is capable of, he may thought tobi was right and turned his back on yahikos idea.. would also explain why he didnt resurrected him. Yahiko wouldnt have been on their side anyways.

    Still want to learn more about Nagatos past.. i want to see everything

    Btw, yahiko is awesome, great leader. kind of ironic that yahiko also represented the pain grp and was used as the leader of amegakure after he defeated hanzou.

    btw, why killing hanzou in the first place? just to spread fear and get respected by the people?
    1. He's black zetsu,
    2. Kakashi rambling to Obito's grave
    3. Unknown
    4. Because Tobito
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Can't wait to see what happens.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Armathyx View Post
    1. He's black zetsu,
    2. Kakashi rambling to Obito's grave
    3. Unknown
    4. Because Tobito
    Spiral Zetsu is NOT Black Zetsu.. where tf did you get that from?... Black Zetsu is the dark essence of Madara.. The answer to Number 1 is the same as the answer to number 3.... Unknown.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 607 Discussion and 608 Predictions

    Finally got round to reading it, an alright conclusion to Obito's flashback, though it still leaves much in question.

    Liked
    - Yahiko being a boss, protecting Nagato from random strangers.
    - Learning how Obito learnt about Kushina's being pregnant.
    - The wooden dragon and seeing how Hashirama was capable of dealing with the Kyuubi.
    - Gai bloody but still around.

    Disliked
    - Obito's dream of being Hokage seems sort of random and pointless now that he's basically Kakashi's opponent.
    - Wish Naruto was pushing Madara further, at least to the point of needing the riblet Susanoo.
     
         

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