Re: (Negative Knight) Proof that Kakuzu > Kisame Hoshigaki (Debate)
This was the debate i was looking for, single handedly Ice, you've made my thread worth my effort.
Originally Posted by Icelerate
As to respond to your points, I've pointed out earlier that Samehada isn't comparable to the Preta Path in terms of its Ninjutsu absorption, as it takes in raw chakra and can be overwhelmed. The sheer magnitude of Kakuzu's Wind Release Pressure Damage might be enough to overwhelm Samehada in size alone, due to it having to be processed by the sentient sword and not being a "blink of an eye" occurrence.
Raiton isn't stronger than Suiton, but the user doesn't necessarily gain immunity to the element, if Kisame were completely covered into water from a previous technique e.g. Water Dome Prison, he would conduct electricity much more efficiently and it would become a potentially lethal offensive on Kakuzu's part.
Whilst i agree Kisame could potentially cut the threads with Samehada but the sheer amount of attacks Kakuzu could make in the same time interval would undoubtedly overwhelm Kisame. Hardening himself with Doton Domu is another method that could be used once Kakuzu realizes that he intends to cuts his threads. Kisame's super strength is probably on a level equal to Kakuzu's own physical prowess, he was able to stop a punch from Chouji with relative ease and break a iron gate with a single punch.
You raise a good point on Kakuzu's Doton Domu, but Kakuzu has shown slight and efficient use of this technique without even slight signs of exhaustion, as you mentioned earlier.
If Kakuzu was indeed outmatched in a close combat confrontation, then his Earth Grudge Fear Transformation v1 would definitely tip the balance in his favour. In this mode his dark threads are far less exposed and so can't be cut as easily as Kisame would hope, he can use Elemental Blasts from his merged masks remotely, has a considerable level speed when transformed and his own limbs become much more retractable.
Great Shark Water Bullet leaves Kisame open to attacks, Kakuzu's masks which can both be separated from him and are capable of flight, could attack Kisame from behind to either dispel the attack altogether or deal considerable damage to Kisame.
Being logical, i don't see a definitive method of Kisame winning this match, the lack of lethality about the water element and Kisame's kenjutsu being chakra absorption based means it becomes increasingly difficult for him to win this match.