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      Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      *Waits for my Sensei to appear*

      Thanks for teaching me
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Firstly, why might you want to learn Genjutsu? What part of it does it...exactly fascinate you?
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Quote Originally Posted by Adachi View Post
      Firstly, why might you want to learn Genjutsu? What part of it does it...exactly fascinate you?
      I like the amount of freedom for creativity that it brings. You can use the jutsus in any kind of combo that you can think of to overcome your opponent. Plus you can do almost anything with Genjutsu customs. I like the whole idea of Genjutsu cause you can use it to outwit and outplay your opponent and force them to make mistakes. Its more of an intellectual art than just firing jutsus at each other and I like to think that Im a smart guy I also hope to one day prove my prowess enough in Genjutsu to be allowed to learn NB genjutsu
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Excellent point! Genjutsu definitely allows one to be creative. It's like writing stories, you can do anything with a paper and a pencil.
      Haha, smart guy. xD
      But yes, you also mention playing with wits, which is basically psychological warfare...ah, reminds me of my countless games of Pokemon and chess. To be able to predict an opponent's actions or manipulate into what you wish to do is surely enjoyable and challenging.

      Enthusiastic reasons. Let's get started. @_@
      Firstly, how exactly does Genjutsu work and give me an example of how you would like to use it during a battle.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Quote Originally Posted by Adachi View Post
      Excellent point! Genjutsu definitely allows one to be creative. It's like writing stories, you can do anything with a paper and a pencil.
      Haha, smart guy. xD
      But yes, you also mention playing with wits, which is basically psychological warfare...ah, reminds me of my countless games of Pokemon and chess. To be able to predict an opponent's actions or manipulate into what you wish to do is surely enjoyable and challenging.

      Enthusiastic reasons. Let's get started. @_@
      Firstly, how exactly does Genjutsu work and give me an example of how you would like to use it during a battle.
      Oh pokemon is a good analogy

      Genjutsu is affecting your opponents sense of reality by distorting and controlling the flow of chakra through their brain. By doing so you create an illusionary world for your opponent which can have a wide range of affects, such as paralysis or blindness. This is a dangerous art to face since while you are trapped in the illusion, you are helpless in reality. Genjutsu is often done through one of the 5 senses, this can cause pain or trauma to the person by tricking their brain into thinking it really happened. Genjutsu is mostly associated with people of high intelligence since one must me skillful to be able to manipulate their opponent properly.

      Thats about all I know of how it works >_>

      Theres loads of ways I want to use it in battle lol off the top of my head I can use a paralyzing genjutsu with earth spikes simultaneously due to my Souma No Kou bio I could also use an earth justu that falls from above towards my opponent and use the genjutsu that makes him see it as a huge fireball. ^_^ you only asked for one but theres two
       
           

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      Exactly. It enters the area of our brain, the prosencephalon structure of our brain, which controls all our senses. You MUST remember to manipulate all five senses any time you start a genjutsu. And not necessarily because the smart people are smart, but because genjutsus always has a flaw to it - they're illusions after all, normally unrealistic, and it's up to you, the user, to perfect it in the best way you can.
      Great that you mention that second one, we'll be going over stuff like that with our very first jutsu soon.

      Now, how would one counter a genjutsu? What ways might there be?
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Quote Originally Posted by Adachi View Post
      Exactly. It enters the area of our brain, the prosencephalon structure of our brain, which controls all our senses. You MUST remember to manipulate all five senses any time you start a genjutsu. And not necessarily because the smart people are smart, but because genjutsus always has a flaw to it - they're illusions after all, normally unrealistic, and it's up to you, the user, to perfect it in the best way you can.*
      Great that you mention that second one, we'll be going over stuff like that with our very first jutsu soon.

      Now, how would one counter a genjutsu? What ways might there be?
      Well first in our RP you have to recognise that your in a genjutsu through one of the flaws you mentioned. For example the fireball genjutsu I mentioned, it won't have the heat of a real fire and it also won't have the effects that the light from fire will have on the ground. E.g Shadows moving wildly, weird lighting. Once you recognised that there are a number of ways that you can release yourself. The most common seen is a surge of chakra through your system, there are a few cannon techniques that do this such as Chidori current and kai.

      You can also cause pain to yourself which causes a sudden spike in your chakra system and releases the genjutsu. This can be done using a kunai or by breaking your finger for example, the greater the rank of the genjutsu the more pain you must inflict on yourself to remove it. The last way but also the least seen is to have a foreign body channel their chakra into you, purging your system of the genjutsu. This can be done by an allied ninja or certain custom weapons. I believe this is also the method that Bijuu use to release their jinchuriki from a genjutsu.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Perfect response! Just a bit more!
      What Doujutsus can break out of genjutsus and how?
      Also, if you were completely immobilized, by a high level Genjutsu, the best way would to be bite your own tongue. Your body would be paralyzed, but your mouth should be able to move.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Quote Originally Posted by Adachi View Post
      Perfect response! Just a bit more!
      What Doujutsus can break out of genjutsus and how?
      Also, if you were completely immobilized, by a high level Genjutsu, the best way would to be bite your own tongue. Your body would be paralyzed, but your mouth should be able to move.
      That would be the Sharingan, but I don't know that much about it cause it never really interested me. xD Well the Sharingan allows you to see your own chakra so if you notice that your chakra flow is irregular then you could deduce you are in a genjutsu. But the sharingan itself can see through Genjutsu, with 1 tomoe being able to see through D rank genjutsu and going up tomoes and ranks until you get the the MS and EMS which can both see through A rank Genjutsu and below.

      Biting your tongue gives you a kind of time limit though doesn't it? Cause if the genjutsu is high enough you'll have to bite your tongue off so you'll bleed out a few turns after.
       
           

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      Yeah, I hate that part they added. I'd rather bite a chunk of my lip off. >.>

      Mkay, let's start simple now. First, try and transform our surroundings into anything you want.
      You must first concentrate on your chakra and then release it out of your body onto me, then deliberately control each of my five senses to get me to see what you want.
       
           

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      Yeah, I hate that part they added. I'd rather bite a chunk of my lip off. >.>

      Mkay, let's start simple now. First, try and transform our surroundings into anything you want.
      You must first concentrate on your chakra and then release it out of your body onto me, then deliberately control each of my five senses to get me to see what you want.
      I first concentrate my chakra and I then channel it towards you and into your brain. Using my chakra I disturb your normal flow of chakra and I manipulate it to suit my needs. I then distort your five senses so that you see us sitting at a coffee shop and Im drinking hot chocolate

      I don't feel like this is a good enough description, but I can't think of how to lengthen it >.<
       
           
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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Haha, no worries! Remember what I said earlier about describing each of the five senses? That's precisely what I want you to touch on.
      Now, let's try again, but I want to introduce a concept to you as well. ^^ It's called Cause and Effect. For example, you used a Wind Jutsu to blow away the explosive tag, thus, I can follow up with a prepared fire move to disregard your Wind Jutsu, so that it overcomes it and is sent back at you two times stronger.
      By taking the upper hand, you can juggle your opponent around and have them react the way you want to, as we are all forced to make moves and survive in a battle. This is most often used in chess, where it is necessary to be able to predict several moves ahead of the opponent.

      So given the nature of the jutsu that you just used, can you think of another scenario where you would manipulate the settings so you can effectively use an elemental jutsu?
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

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      Haha, no worries! Remember what I said earlier about describing each of the five senses? That's precisely what I want you to touch on.
      Now, let's try again, but I want to introduce a concept to you as well. ^^ It's called Cause and Effect. For example, you used a Wind Jutsu to blow away the explosive tag, thus, I can follow up with a prepared fire move to disregard your Wind Jutsu, so that it overcomes it and is sent back at you two times stronger.
      By taking the upper hand, you can juggle your opponent around and have them react the way you want to, as we are all forced to make moves and survive in a battle. This is most often used in chess, where it is necessary to be able to predict several moves ahead of the opponent.

      So given the nature of the jutsu that you just used, can you think of another scenario where you would manipulate the settings so you can effectively use an elemental jutsu?
      I can think of at least two. Well Ive seen this genjutsu:

      ( Genjutsu: Oshitsubusu Hebi Kubire ) - Illusion Technique: Crushing Snake Constriction
      Rank: B
      Type: Offensive, Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 20
      Damage points: 40
      Description: The user puts the opponent into a genjutsu which has snakes appear beneath the opponent to constrict them and with the users command, they crush the opponent. In reality, the opponent is immobilized and takes damage due to the stress on his mind.


      Used quite alot and I often I see people release it by saying they use chidori nagashi to try to defend from the snakes and by coincidence they manage to release themselves from the genjutsu. So what I would do is use that same genjutsu and then form water underneath them so they cannot use chidori or they would electrocute themselves ^_^

      Another one I can think of is to use this genjutsu:

      ( Genjutsu: Jigoku Gouka ) - Illusion Technique: Hell Fire
      Rank: C
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 15
      Damage Points:N/A
      Description: The user casts an illusion where the opponent sees a huge ball of fire descending from the sky and enveloping its target.


      To make the opponent see a fireball and to then form an earth technique in the sky above them. Because naturally they would think to use a water technique to overpower the fire but the earth would overpower the water.

      Thats all I can think of off the top of my head
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      You've got the concept down perfectly, only thing is, I'd like you to attribute it to this Genjutsu. xD Remember you can manipulate the surroundings into ANYTHING you like.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

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      You've got the concept down perfectly, only thing is, I'd like you to attribute it to this Genjutsu. xD Remember you can manipulate the surroundings into ANYTHING you like.
      Hmm ok, I might go for something a little more simple this time

      To begin I focus my chakra and I then channel it towards you and into your mind. Using my chakra I hijack your normal chakra flow and bend it to my will. By doing so I cause you to see us standing on the training field for a moment before earth spikes to suddenly erupt from the ground. By guessing you will most likely use a lightning technique to defend from the earth I shoot a simple water bullet at you, causing you to electrocute yourself if I guess correctly.

      (Suiton: Teppoudama) - Water release: Water Bullet
      Rank: C
      Type: Attack
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra cost: 15
      Damage Points: 30
      Descripton: A large sphere of rotating water that is spit out of the users mouth that can blast a huge area leaving it soaked.
       
           
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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      *insert slow clap GIF here* xD
      ( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.

      Let me teach you about handseals now.
      Let's say you had one jutsu that required only one handseal, but your opponent had one that required five.
      How would you take advantage of this?
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

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      *insert slow clap GIF here* xD



      ( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.

      Let me teach you about handseals now.
      Let's say you had one jutsu that required only one handseal, but your opponent had one that required five.
      How would you take advantage of this?
      ^_^

      Well it means you can activate your technique much quicker than your opponent can. So if I seen my opponent start a string of 5 hand seals I could perform the one hand seal and our two jutsu would be activated at about the same time, well thats what I think you mean anyway xD
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Perfect! Believe it or not, that small timeframe can be really battle changing. xD
      It pays a lot to notice things like that during fights. Small attention to important things can really make a huge difference.
      So this next jutsu has five handseals.
      I want you to focus your chakra into me once more and make it appear that you've dissolved into many petals. Actually, cherry blossom petals. Then, make those cherry blossoms around me and make sure you obscure my vision.
      Then describe what purpose this serves in a battle.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

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      Perfect! Believe it or not, that small timeframe can be really battle changing. xD
      It pays a lot to notice things like that during fights. Small attention to important things can really make a huge difference.
      So this next jutsu has five handseals.
      I want you to focus your chakra into me once more and make it appear that you've dissolved into many petals. Actually, cherry blossom petals. Then, make those cherry blossoms around me and make sure you obscure my vision.
      Then describe what purpose this serves in a battle.
      To begin I perform a string of 5 handseals and I then channel my chakra over to you and push it into your brain. There I disturb your normal chakra flow and then distort and hijack it for my own purposes. By doing so I manipulate your sight so that you see my body suddenly dissolve into hundreds of cherry blossoms, these cherry blossoms then head towards you and swirl around you in a dense spiral. This blocks your sight of the area.

      This is useful in battle for two reasons. Initially your opponent loses sight of you, allowing you to attack him or move in closer to him if thats what you desire. Then the cherry blossoms block his vision, by doing so he can't see any attacks heading towards him or if you are manipulating the battlefield around him.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Excellent description.
      I will now go over another important aspect of battles.
      Field of vision.
      By knowing where your opponent's eyes are directed at all times allows you take advantage of this and send a jutsu from a direction where you know they won't be looking at. This is also especially important when you are battling against Doujutsu users, especially Byakugans, because they only have one blind spot out of their 360 vision.
      This jutsu blocks your opponent's field of vision, so that you are able to execute other moves upon him while he scrambles to see again.
      ( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 10
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.

      This is one of the many ways to be creative when disguising your next move in a battle. By outplaying your opponent or tricking them, it allows you to defeat them in battle.

      This next jutsu allows the use of an explosive tag.
      The explosive tag is a very important ninja tool. Tell me several ways to use it and how it works in battle.
       
           

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      Excellent description.
      I will now go over another important aspect of battles.
      Field of vision.
      By knowing where your opponent's eyes are directed at all times allows you take advantage of this and send a jutsu from a direction where you know they won't be looking at. This is also especially important when you are battling against Doujutsu users, especially Byakugans, because they only have one blind spot out of their 360 vision.
      This jutsu blocks your opponent's field of vision, so that you are able to execute other moves upon him while he scrambles to see again.
      ( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short-Mid
      Chakra Cost: 10
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.

      This is one of the many ways to be creative when disguising your next move in a battle. By outplaying your opponent or tricking them, it allows you to defeat them in battle.

      This next jutsu allows the use of an explosive tag.
      The explosive tag is a very important ninja tool. Tell me several ways to use it and how it works in battle.
      Explosive tags are very useful for setting various traps for your opponent. One of the most common ways to use it is in conjunction with a kunai that is thrown at the opponent. By doing so this makes that simple attack much more deadlier and can be used to achieve a variety of things. The explosive tag is used by placing it on something or someone as desired and when the user wants the detonation they perform a simple mental command to make it explode. One of my favourite ways to use it is in conjunction with this earth jutsu:

      (Doton: Dochū Eigyo no Jutsu) - Earth Release: Underground Projection Fish Technique
      Rank: C
      Type: Defence/Supplementary
      Range: Short/Long
      Chakra Cost: 15
      Damage Points: N/A
      Description: Using this jutsu, a person can hide underground until they're ready to attack an opponent. By utilizing earth-chakra, the person can stealthily emerge from the ground without disrupting the ground around him. This jutsu can also be used to avoid incoming jutsus.


      If your opponent is fairly close to you, attempting a punch or a kick. You can use the earth jutsu to sink into the ground and as you do you leave an explosive tag on the surface, thus making an offensive aspect of a usually defensive only technique. So in all the explosive tag is used to augment your fighting style in an almost innumerable ways, limited only to the users creativity and imagination, similar to genjutsu
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      LOL, I can imagine that actually. Sink into the ground as the opponent has this WTF face, and then moments later, everything explodes. You can also attach explosive tags to clones and send them forward (just like exploding Kage Bunshin) and there is also a special Ninjutsu technique that makes them invisible. Then have them explode close on impact to your enemy.
      Remember that you need to make the snake handseal for this to explode.
      Now, I want you to take over the mind of my clone and make him think that a clone of you is walking towards him.
      In reality, however, the clone conceals in an incoming explosive tag.
      Time it well.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

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      LOL, I can imagine that actually. Sink into the ground as the opponent has this WTF face, and then moments later, everything explodes. You can also attach explosive tags to clones and send them forward (just like exploding Kage Bunshin) and there is also a special Ninjutsu technique that makes them invisible. Then have them explode close on impact to your enemy.
      Remember that you need to make the snake handseal for this to explode.
      Now, I want you to take over the mind of my clone and make him think that a clone of you is walking towards him.
      In reality, however, the clone conceals in an incoming explosive tag.
      Time it well.
      I begin by concentrating my chakra and I then channel it over to your clone. Once it reaches him I insert it into his brain and disturb his chakra flow, hijacking his senses. I then throw an explosive tag towards him and manipulate his sight so that he sees it as a simple clone coming towards him. This clone runs towards him in an agressive manner, hiding the paper bomb and distracting your clone. Once the paper bomb has reached him I perform the snake handseal, causing it to explode.*
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Perfect. So, when a clone advances, it directs their attention on the clone, allowing you to pull off more moves. And especially because this is a Genjutsu, and you can conceal sound, you can cook up a strong move while they are focused on the clone, such as Rasenshuriken. Sound is another important aspect of battling, and it usually alerts us to one jutsu or the other.
      ( Genjutsu: Kasumi ) - Illusion Technique: Servant
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short
      Chakra Cost: 10
      Damage Points: 20
      Description: The user does one handseal and throws a paper bomb at the enemy. The enemy, trapped in a genjutsu will see a clone of the user advancing upon him. As the paper bomb reaches the enemy, it explodes
      Once again, use your chakra to manipulate my clone's five senses.
      I want you to surround my clone with your clones, having them rise up from the ground. (As an illusion.)
      My clone will then attempt to attack your clones, and what you must do is to physically block him each time, tricking him into thinking that they are real.
      Furthermore, every time he hits one, they multiply. <- Explain the purpose of this.
       
           

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      Re: Techniques of the mind with Adachi ^_^

      Quote Originally Posted by Adachi View Post
      Perfect. So, when a clone advances, it directs their attention on the clone, allowing you to pull off more moves. And especially because this is a Genjutsu, and you can conceal sound, you can cook up a strong move while they are focused on the clone, such as Rasenshuriken. Sound is another important aspect of battling, and it usually alerts us to one jutsu or the other.
      ( Genjutsu: Kasumi ) - Illusion Technique: Servant
      Rank: D
      Type: Supplementary
      Range: Short
      Chakra Cost: 10
      Damage Points: 20
      Description: The user does one handseal and throws a paper bomb at the enemy. The enemy, trapped in a genjutsu will see a clone of the user advancing upon him. As the paper bomb reaches the enemy, it explodes
      Once again, use your chakra to manipulate my clone's five senses.
      I want you to surround my clone with your clones, having them rise up from the ground. (As an illusion.)
      My clone will then attempt to attack your clones, and what you must do is to physically block him each time, tricking him into thinking that they are real.
      Furthermore, every time he hits one, they multiply. <- Explain the purpose of this.
      To begin I concentrate my chakra and I then channel it over towards your clone. Once it reaches him I insert it into his brain and disturb his normal chakra flow, hijacking his senses. By doing so I manipulate your clones sight so that he sees 5 clones of myself rise from the ground surrounding him. As they are doing this I get into position behind your clone in his blind spot. So that once he begins to attack my clones I use my hands and shins to block his attacks, timed with my clones own blocks. This gives the illusion that they are real corporeal clones. I manipulate the genjutsu so that every time your clone strikes one of mine, the clone multiplies slowing increasing the amount of clones until your clone is greatly outnumbered.

      The fact that clones multiply every time one is struck serves multiple purposes. Firstly it confuses the opponent and makes them reluctant to attack, from fear of worsening their situation. It also distracts your opponent from you, putting mental strain on them while they try to think of a way to deal with their situation. But the multiplying clones could also give away the fact that its a genjutsu.
       
           

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