Does Naruto needs second element...

[Orion]

Do anyone thinks naruto should have second element, if yes which one, if not why...

I think he needs another element...
Naruto at this moment is still not strong enough to fight akatsuki. Do anyone really thinks he was even close to any Akatsuki member he defeated.

1- Kakuzu was killed only because he was too over confident that he can kill naruto. So he charged on directly, to get trap in some foolish tactic...

2-Did Naruto really defeated pain. Everyone here will agree that Pain was equal to naruto sage mode stats. Equal in terms of speed, strength everything. He had trouble only because he already had lost considerable chakra, as Konan warned before flattening Konoha. And god realm was no good to fight. We all saw how naruto got caught when god realm enter in fight. It was Hinata and ofcourse kyuubi saved naruto...
Pain even manage to confront kyuubi...

3-Now lets keep naruto against Sasuke.
-->Sasuke is incredibly fast, where naruto stands? Nowhere...
-->Sasuke is gud at using genjutsu as he showed against Kirabi. Can naruto escape from that. Answer is no...
-->Sasuke is good at using jutsus/seals. Naruto can use only Shadow Clones, Rasengan variations, Sage mode..
------->Sasuke has showed he can handle shadow clones..
------->Chidori can take care of Rasengan variations. FRS is useless against Sharingan and resultant speedy reflexes of Sasuke...
------->Naruto can not dodge/cancel out Kirin(watever that is called)...
------->Now think of Sage mode. Do you really think Sasuke is going to wait until Naruto attains sage mode. If you are thinking Sasuke may not know about Sage Mode, I will say Zetsu will tell every minor detail to others...
He will also tell naruto needs scroll to attain sage mode, so other akatsukis while dealing while naruto will first take care of scroll...

4-Lets keep Naruto against Kisame...
He is someone who was able to fight 7 gates open-Gai. Narutos sage mode wont be much of a trouble.. Pain himself said Kisame has more amount of chakra than anyone else(including Pain) in Akatsuki. So if already tired Pain can keep up with naruto's chakra and sage mode, why Kisame who has more chakra than pain can not do it...Yes Rinnegan do offers some advantage that Kisame wont have...

5-Lets keep Naruto against Tobi/Madara...
No Need to say anything...

So, I'll say Naruto needs a second element. In the light thrown by these threads I'll say he will have Water...
Threads referred:-
1)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...l-conutry.html
2)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...d-element.html
So wat you think, should he have another elemental affinity...

[KASTAWAY]

do anyone thinks naruto should have second element, if yes which one, if not why...

I think he needs another element...
Naruto at this moment is still not strong enough to fight akatsuki. Do anyone really thinks he was even close to any akatsuki member he defeated.

1- kakuzu was killed only because he was too over confident that he can kill naruto. So he charged on directly, to get trap in some foolish tactic...

2-did naruto really defeated pain. everyone here will agree that pain was equal to naruto sage mode stats. Equal in terms of speed, strength everything. He had trouble only because he already had lost considerable chakra, as konan warned before flattening konoha. And god realm was no good to fight. We all saw how naruto got caught when god realm enter in fight. It was hinata and ofcourse kyuubi saved naruto...
Pain even manage to confront kyuubi...

3-now lets keep naruto against sasuke.
-->sasuke is incredibly fast, where naruto stands? Nowhere...
-->sasuke is gud at using genjutsu as he showed against kirabi. Can naruto escape from that. Answer is no...
-->sasuke is good at using jutsus/seals. Naruto can use only shadow clones, rasengan variations, sage mode..
------->sasuke has showed he can handle shadow clones..
------->chidori can take care of rasengan variations. Frs is useless against sharingan and resultant speedy reflexes of sasuke...
------->naruto can not dodge/cancel out kirin(watever that is called)...
------->now think of sage mode. Do you really think sasuke is going to wait until naruto attains sage mode. If you are thinking sasuke may not know about sage mode, i will say zetsu will tell every minor detail to others...
He will also tell naruto needs scroll to attain sage mode, so other akatsukis while dealing while naruto will first take care of scroll...

4-lets keep naruto against kisame...
he is someone who was able to fight 7 gates open-gai. Narutos sage mode wont be much of a trouble.. Pain himself said kisame has more amount of chakra than anyone else(including pain) in akatsuki. So if already tired pain can keep up with naruto's chakra and sage mode, why kisame who has more chakra than pain can not do it...yes rinnegan do offers some advantage that kisame wont have...

5-lets keep naruto against tobi/madara...
no need to say anything...

So, i'll say naruto needs a second element. In the light thrown by these threads i'll say he will have water...
Threads referred:-
1)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...l-conutry.html
2)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...d-element.html
so wat you think, should he have another elemental affinity...

sorry my friend, you thoughts on naruto vs kisame are a little off, naruto has unlimited chakra, the fox.

[kazeshini]

ppl onli pickin water bcuz it would totally wipe out sasukes affinities.
but based on narutos persona, water is to calm for him and earth is for stratigic thinkers like shikamaru for say, so id go with fire

[Vergil..]

Do anyone thinks naruto should have second element, if yes which one, if not why...

I think he needs another element...
Naruto at this moment is still not strong enough to fight akatsuki. Do anyone really thinks he was even close to any Akatsuki member he defeated.

1- Kakuzu was killed only because he was too over confident that he can kill naruto. So he charged on directly, to get trap in some foolish tactic...

2-Did Naruto really defeated pain. Everyone here will agree that Pain was equal to naruto sage mode stats. Equal in terms of speed, strength everything. He had trouble only because he already had lost considerable chakra, as Konan warned before flattening Konoha. And god realm was no good to fight. We all saw how naruto got caught when god realm enter in fight. It was Hinata and ofcourse kyuubi saved naruto...
Pain even manage to confront kyuubi...

3-Now lets keep naruto against Sasuke.
-->Sasuke is incredibly fast, where naruto stands? Nowhere...
-->Sasuke is gud at using genjutsu as he showed against Kirabi. Can naruto escape from that. Answer is no...
-->Sasuke is good at using jutsus/seals. Naruto can use only Shadow Clones, Rasengan variations, Sage mode..
------->Sasuke has showed he can handle shadow clones..
------->Chidori can take care of Rasengan variations. FRS is useless against Sharingan and resultant speedy reflexes of Sasuke...
------->Naruto can not dodge/cancel out Kirin(watever that is called)...
------->Now think of Sage mode. Do you really think Sasuke is going to wait until Naruto attains sage mode. If you are thinking Sasuke may not know about Sage Mode, I will say Zetsu will tell every minor detail to others...
He will also tell naruto needs scroll to attain sage mode, so other akatsukis while dealing while naruto will first take care of scroll...

4-Lets keep Naruto against Kisame...
He is someone who was able to fight 7 gates open-Gai. Narutos sage mode wont be much of a trouble.. Pain himself said Kisame has more amount of chakra than anyone else(including Pain) in Akatsuki. So if already tired Pain can keep up with naruto's chakra and sage mode, why Kisame who has more chakra than pain can not do it...Yes Rinnegan do offers some advantage that Kisame wont have...

5-Lets keep Naruto against Tobi/Madara...
No Need to say anything...

So, I'll say Naruto needs a second element. In the light thrown by these threads I'll say he will have Water...
Threads referred:-
1)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...l-conutry.html
2)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...d-element.html
So wat you think, should he have another elemental affinity...

i have some things that couter some naruto vs sasuke and other's:
sasuke genjutsu: naruto as the kyuubi to help with it( it wont help lol because kyuubi doesnt care that much unless naruto gets killed in the moment ) and he has sage mode wich as the same affect in chakra on the genjutsu part because it disturbs it.

chidori his weaker then rasegan that was chowed on the hospital fight plus futton: rasengan doesnt just beat chidori it destrois it. and for FRS naruto can expande its size so i think he will be able to control its direction and speed.

kirin i agree it's impossible to avoid right now i can only think that madara and god/nagato can block or avoid it.

sage mode: im guessing kishi will make up some ways to make it easier for naruto to go into sage mode plus there are many ways for him to go sage mode by using distractions to give him time for sage.

and yes naruto could use water as his second element so he would be the exact opposite of sasuke and now both would be in balanced levels since sasuke's lighting would beat naruto's water wich would beat sasuke's fire and then it would beat naruto's wind.
sage mode was made to counter MS so i guess he mite get a way then there's itachi's gift.


naruto vs kisame:

hard to say depends how u look at it naruto as 3 chakra stokes( his chakra, kyubbi's and natural ) i guess that enoth for kisame but there's allways the samehada but it 's just kipping way from it

[twistedlink]

Im sorry, did someone just say sasuke can actually outspeed naruto in sage mode?

someones saying sasuke is as fast as pain??

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Sasuke is fast, but he is a lot slower than naruto sage mode.

Naruto has the fox for fire, so water through himself will give him 3 excellent elements, even if 1 isnt technically his.

[squiremarcus]

quite honestly I don't think that naruto needs another element or rather not now. all that would do is lead to a bunch of training manga which I DO NOT WANT

[Vergil..]

quite honestly I don't think that naruto needs another element or rather not now. all that would do is lead to a bunch of training manga which I DO NOT WANT

kishi could develop other characters stories while he trains for wich would be good because that part almost killed me it was 3 or 4 episodes of wind training plus filler's

[Kisuke Kakashi]

-->Sasuke is incredibly fast, where naruto stands? Nowhere...

I suppose that's up for debate. Sasuke's certainly become faster, but that doesn't neccessarily mean he's faster than Naruto. Think back to Naruto's fight with Neji and Pain.

-->Sasuke is good at using jutsus/seals. Naruto can use only Shadow Clones, Rasengan variations, Sage mode..

True, but sometimes, less can be more. Though of course, if Naruto ever wants to make Hokage, he needs to expand his knowledge.

------->Sasuke has showed he can handle shadow clones..

It isn't about being able to counter them easily, though. Naruto's proven his skill at changing the way he uses his clones, for tactical purposes, to increase their potential.

------->Chidori can take care of Rasengan variations. FRS is useless against Sharingan and resultant speedy reflexes of Sasuke...

That's just unfounded, really. Remember how FRS is described by Tsunade, when he uses it to defeat Kakazu? Millions of tiny individual attacks, that destroy cells.

------->Naruto can not dodge/cancel out Kirin(watever that is called)...

He may not be able to dodge it, but we don't know for sure that he couldn't fight it with an FRS. Wind overpowers Lightning, and as far as we know, FRS is still the most powerful Wind based jutsu, even if Kirin is the same for Lightning.

------->Now think of Sage mode. Do you really think Sasuke is going to wait until Naruto attains sage mode. If you are thinking Sasuke may not know about Sage Mode, I will say Zetsu will tell every minor detail to others...
He will also tell naruto needs scroll to attain sage mode, so other akatsukis while dealing while naruto will first take care of scroll...

I think Zetsu will be more likely to tell Tobi, than Sasuke, to be honest. Depends how long their "alliance" lasts.
As for the scroll, that was a last minute way of coming up with a plan, it isn't to say it won't be improve upon in the future.

and yes naruto could use water as his second element so he would be the exact opposite of sasuke and now both would be in balanced levels since sasuke's lighting would beat naruto's water wich would beat sasuke's fire and then it would beat naruto's wind.
sage mode was made to counter MS so i guess he mite get a way then there's itachi's gift.

Seems quite logical. But did Lightning beat Water? I can't remember...
Water -> Fire -> Wind -> Lightning -> Earth -> Water, wasn't it?

[musicgenesis]

Im sorry, did someone just say sasuke can actually outspeed naruto in sage mode?

someones saying sasuke is as fast as pain??

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Sasuke is fast, but he is a lot slower than naruto sage mode.

Naruto has the fox for fire, so water through himself will give him 3 excellent elements, even if 1 isnt technically his.

i agree. Sasuke just cant be faster than Naruto in sage mode.

Wind element beats lightning , so FRS beats Chidori.
Even Zetsu says that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke now.

[leafeater]

water is convenient for Sasuke, but fire is awesome if Naruto throws a FRS and lights it up. Also, the better reason is that he can use it with toads for combination jutsu such as igniting oil.

To be honest though, he doesn't need another element. Mastering sage mode is so much more powerful than another element. It seems like sage mode is underestimated. Naruto can sense living beings in sage mode which works against genjutsu. He summons a multitude of toads, etc. When he controls the Kyuubi, he'll have the "special power" that Minato described to beat Madara, so I would concentrate on that if I'm him. Then he can worry about another element later.

[kazeshini]

lol @ naruto vs sasuke ***s u truely make meh laugh.

do u people seriously think he has the patience for suiton...think logically and not naruto vs sasuke, sasuke isnt the big bad boss in naruto yano. personally id say get a few more wind jutsu that aint as chakra consuming. and dont u think narutos 2 rasenshuriken limit reminds you of sasuke's old chidori limit?

and another thing that bugs me about naruto is that where in science does lighting defeat earth *scratches head* lightning defeats water but not earth, am i missing something? does japan have a different science to the rest of the world? ploz tell meh

[Rishawn]

a simple answer...........NO he jus needs to get more battle tested (experience) , learnin anotha element doesnt mean he'll have instant ownage over sasuke, but havin an array of otha jutsu to mix up in a battle will guarantee his success against basically ne1

[leafeater]

a simple answer...........NO he jus needs to get more battle tested (experience) , learnin anotha element doesnt mean he'll have instant ownage over sasuke, but havin an array of otha jutsu to mix up in a battle will guarantee his success against basically ne1

Naruto's incomplete sage mode nearly cost him everything against Pein, not a second element. Mastering sage mode, removes the 2 FRS limit, as well as him getting experience in sage mode. Also, sage mode and summoning jutsu I think will be his specialty. Eventually he'll kill Madara with some special ass Kyuubi jutsu. Fix what's broke, and then move on.

I agree though, and experience is going to come soon. Technically he hasn't killed anyone. He just gets them to commit suicide usually.

[Thekidfox]

Do anyone thinks naruto should have second element, if yes which one, if not why...

I think he needs another element...
Naruto at this moment is still not strong enough to fight akatsuki. Do anyone really thinks he was even close to any Akatsuki member he defeated.

1- Kakuzu was killed only because he was too over confident that he can kill naruto. So he charged on directly, to get trap in some foolish tactic...

2-Did Naruto really defeated pain. Everyone here will agree that Pain was equal to naruto sage mode stats. Equal in terms of speed, strength everything. He had trouble only because he already had lost considerable chakra, as Konan warned before flattening Konoha. And god realm was no good to fight. We all saw how naruto got caught when god realm enter in fight. It was Hinata and ofcourse kyuubi saved naruto...
Pain even manage to confront kyuubi...

3-Now lets keep naruto against Sasuke.
-->Sasuke is incredibly fast, where naruto stands? Nowhere...
-->Sasuke is gud at using genjutsu as he showed against Kirabi. Can naruto escape from that. Answer is no...
-->Sasuke is good at using jutsus/seals. Naruto can use only Shadow Clones, Rasengan variations, Sage mode..
------->Sasuke has showed he can handle shadow clones..
------->Chidori can take care of Rasengan variations. FRS is useless against Sharingan and resultant speedy reflexes of Sasuke...
------->Naruto can not dodge/cancel out Kirin(watever that is called)...
------->Now think of Sage mode. Do you really think Sasuke is going to wait until Naruto attains sage mode. If you are thinking Sasuke may not know about Sage Mode, I will say Zetsu will tell every minor detail to others...
He will also tell naruto needs scroll to attain sage mode, so other akatsukis while dealing while naruto will first take care of scroll...

4-Lets keep Naruto against Kisame...
He is someone who was able to fight 7 gates open-Gai. Narutos sage mode wont be much of a trouble.. Pain himself said Kisame has more amount of chakra than anyone else(including Pain) in Akatsuki. So if already tired Pain can keep up with naruto's chakra and sage mode, why Kisame who has more chakra than pain can not do it...Yes Rinnegan do offers some advantage that Kisame wont have...

5-Lets keep Naruto against Tobi/Madara...
No Need to say anything...

So, I'll say Naruto needs a second element. In the light thrown by these threads I'll say he will have Water...
Threads referred:-
1)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...l-conutry.html
2)http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...d-element.html
So wat you think, should he have another elemental affinity...

Kinda of a Sasuke nut rider no offense, in my opion Naruto has more heart then sasuke and more to fight for.sooooooooo o_o

[squiremarcus]

lol @ naruto vs sasuke ***s u truely make meh laugh.

do u people seriously think he has the patience for suiton...think logically and not naruto vs sasuke, sasuke isnt the big bad boss in naruto yano. personally id say get a few more wind jutsu that aint as chakra consuming. and dont u think narutos 2 rasenshuriken limit reminds you of sasuke's old chidori limit?

and another thing that bugs me about naruto is that where in science does lighting defeat earth *scratches head* lightning defeats water but not earth, am i missing something? does japan have a different science to the rest of the world? ploz tell meh

all I can tell you is that sasuke wouldn't have beaten deidara if that wasn't true

[naruto7]

honestly I think that naruto needs another element

[squiremarcus]

honestly I think that naruto needs another element

why? as shown with him learning wind, a new element doesn't nesesarily mean new jutsu

[Dextral]

The OP's post is heavily underrating Naruto and overrating Sasuke, Pain and Kisame. Btw Kisame lost as soon as guy opened his gates. And your points about Naruto vs. Sasuke are very fanboyish or biased nonetheless.

Naruto's gotten so powerful without a wide array of jutsu. Even if he did learn another element, he porbabyl won't be using it as much.

[rhin0]

every jonin has more than one element...not necessarily in the same way naruto has an affinity for wind, or kakashi for lightning but they are capable of using more than one.

Naruto will obviously learn another element. As you said he doesnt have the counters needed to defeat sasuke right now.

As for a Kekki Genki...for now it would be a complete speculation. However i think that would be pretty bad ass! Hashirama's KG would be an interesting twist! I read some good threads and believe he may have some sort of ace up his sleeve we have yet to see.

i piiiiiickkkkkk....fire (cause i wanna see naruto and sasuke throw down in a katon no jutsu competition)

[Orion]

Sasuke and Naruto when met at ORO's hideout, Sasuke showed how faster he is as compared to NAruto, Naruto was not even able to react. In Sage Mode of course Naruto will be faster than Sasuke, but not necessary.
He needs something other than wind and sage mode with him...

[zenron]

He just needs more techniques. He basically doesn't have any. Not particularly a second element, he hasn't mastered his wind chakra yet.

[leafeater]

Sasuke and Naruto when met at ORO's hideout, Sasuke showed how faster he is as compared to NAruto, Naruto was not even able to react. In Sage Mode of course Naruto will be faster than Sasuke, but not necessary.
He needs something other than wind and sage mode with him...

First, when they had that encounter, Naruto was still weakened from being in a 4-tailed Kyuubi mode. Regardless Sasuke was faster than him then anyway. Sasuke no longer has the curse mark or Orochimaru's white snake (Here I go again on my own). He basically traded that in for a MS.

Speed and taijutsu I give to sage mode Naruto.

Why does Naruto always need something new? He needed sage mode to defeat Pein (stated by Pa toad), but he's stronger than Sasuke right now (He needed wind and FRS for Sasuke), as Zetsu noted. The only thing we know he needs to gain is perfected sage mode (gathering chakra while moving) and some special jutsu with the Kyuubi to defeat Madara. Naruto tends to train to get stronger for a specific reason.

Naruto is not big into handsigns, and I haven't seen a water jutsu without them. Giving him a kekkei genkei is too overpowered, and we tend to see them awoken well before now unless Itachi did something.

Fire suits Naruto well because of his relation to the toads.

[nirav_92]

Actually everything is trash........
There are only 4 elements of nature...........lightning is not an basic element
in manga earth is weak against lightning, but in reality current is earthed. so earth should be strong against lightning.