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    Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    I swear some Naruto readers need to accept whats written in the manga, instead of always trying to prove themselves right by twisting up the words, and trying to find a "bigger" meaning to something that is stated. For example Madara states , Only hashirama could stop me.. And then we morons who wanna say hes talking about the past.. Like, why the hell would he mention about the past when he lost to Hashirama. God damn it.

    And some have problem with accepting SO6P is the god of all shinobis and is the strongest. And then the case about Madara saying Hashirama is on par with him.

    And whats worst is , people wanna drag Madara's name and say hes waayy stronger then the first, yet Madara says he is on par with him.

    Hell I was a Hashirama fan, since they summoned Hashi's edo tensei.. But in that fight Oro said , Sarutobi was called the God of Shinobis (Which was proved wrong by Madara).. You didn't see me complaining, or saying no way Kakashi is stronger. JUST ACCEPT WHAT IS WRITTEN, especially when we don't know crap about the characters

    ACCEPT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE MANGA.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Kakashi could snipe Madara's head off with Kamui. What's your point?
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    flaming in 3..2..1..

    i like flame threads
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    I agree with the S06P and Madara/Hashirama part of your post.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    Kakashi could snipe Madara's head off with Kamui. What's your point?
    No he cant. Madara has susanoo and susano is apparently immune to kamui
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Half of the post I think in fanboyisim but thats my opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    "Bakas"? There is no plural in the Japanese language... singular: baka, plural: baka
    Please don't spread things you didn't learn properly. But I agree with the rest you said
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    u mad!
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    Kakashi could snipe Madara's head off with Kamui. What's your point?
    Good luck to kakshi.. trying to snipe a Edo's head off with kamui.. Good luck =]

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    I agree with the S06P and Madara/Hashirama part of your post.
    good. ^_6

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukino View Post
    "Bakas"? There is no plural in the Japanese language... singular: baka, plural: baka
    Please don't spread things you didn't learn properly. But I agree with the rest you said
    And maybe thats why its written in English not in japanese... Baka = Idiot Bakas= Idiots. Sorry if you didn't like it, but glad you agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa555 View Post
    Half of the post I think in fanboyisim but thats my opinion.
    ~sigh~ here we go again.... Accepting the manga = Fanboyism today
     
         
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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Not everyone would accept bro. The manga is manga but there are alot of unanswered questions afterall.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Yes, they have to realise that things are the way they are becuase thats how kishi made them.... yet they put in some of those stupid theorys trying to twist the straight up facts. Yes, people have a problem if they have a top 10 ninja list and their top one is like kabuto.... seriously? and if people are going to argue, "but you can't solo the entire edo army, therefore he is the strongest ninja!" Im quite sure the sage of 6 paths can solo everyone with no difficulty level at all.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    And by using common sense one should know Edo madara>>>>>>>Hashirama because its hashi+madara in one being........its like saying SSJ Goku> SSJ Gogeta its retarded.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    When he said ''only Hashi could stop me'' he was actually referring in the past. During Madara's lifetime, only Hashi could stand a chance against him and pull out a good fight. He didn't say ''only Hashi can stop me'', learn the difference.

    Between, are you really saying that Hashi > Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton (senju DNA), Edo ? If that was the case it would make the Rinnegan (a extremely rare dojutsu that only the SO6P had) seem like a useless and week powerup. Oro wasn't properly controlling the edo, if that was the case, why didn't hashi use his wood dragon or create a huge poisoned forest like Madara did? + Madara's mokuton may be a bit weakier. Yeah that's right, you ain't got nothing to say.
    Anyway I'm definetely not going to waste my time debating with Hashifanboy.

    Btw, hashi died against fodder :P
     
         
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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by TrollingSage View Post
    No he cant. Madara has susanoo and susano is apparently immune to kamui


    But seriously, do people not realise that the word 'could' simply indicates possibility, not certainty? This is basic English, so only people who do not have English as a first language should be making such a mistake.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    You should follow your own advice. You are the one who created "Bee = Naruto " thread.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post


    But seriously, do people not realise that the word 'could' simply indicates possibility, not certainty? This is basic English, so only people who do not have English as a first language should be making such a mistake.
    The word "could" can have multiple meanings in a sentence, your fault for not being clear. But what he stated is, that its impossible, so there is no "chance"

    Quote Originally Posted by markdabomb22 View Post
    And by using common sense one should know Edo madara>>>>>>>Hashirama because its hashi+madara in one being........its like saying SSJ Goku> SSJ Gogeta its retarded.
    Tell that to Madara, and don't judge character when you have only seen part of his power..... And Edo Madara = Gojeta?? That is dumb. It is not a fusion of 2 minds and bodies..which is Gojeta.. Edo Madara is Madara having Hashirama's mokuton. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCloudsBlackLightning View Post
    Not everyone would accept bro. The manga is manga but there are alot of unanswered questions afterall.
    Yes, but they should wait, before judging to conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    You should follow your own advice. You are the one who created "Bee = Naruto " thread.
    And its been stated in the manga?? Cause that is up for debates anyday. And yea, Naruto needed Bm to get on Killer B's Level I think that was already shown.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    this is so reminiscent of Bleach 514 lolololol.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Agreed. People need to accept what's there. Let's all not flame
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    The word "could" can have multiple meanings in a sentence, your fault for not being clear. But what he stated is, that its impossible, so there is no "chance"
    It's not impossible for Hashirama to defeat Madara, obviously, but people who use the latter's quote as 'prime' evidence (for the 1st Hokage being 'stronger') are foolish because;

    > 'Could' can indicate possibility (not that Hashirama definitely would defeat Madara [just that he has a chance against him], which some people believe Madara implied, which he did not).
    > It could mean past tense (which I disagree with).

    That's why I used the Kakashi example - he could defeat Madara if he managed to Kamui his head, although it's unlikely to happen. The fact that you could not see through this example and instead chose to take what I said out of context shows that you actually don't understand what Madara said.
     
         
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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Madara said Hashirama was the only one who could ever stop him, that sounds like he's talking about the past. Common sense also supports edo Madara > Hashirama.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    And its been stated in the manga?? Cause that is up for debates anyday. And yea, Naruto needed Bm to get on Killer B's Level I think that was already shown.
    It wasnt stated, but it was proved by it.
    Naruto is Perfect Jinchuuriki, he just cant use his full transformation for long at this point, but it will improve. Besides, look at the last chapter - Bee in his Bijuu form was already owned, when Naruto wasnt even forced to use his own and he was fine, even Madara called him a "real Jinchuuriki".
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    I agree with a lot of the OP, but people aren't interpreting the manga correctly when they say 1st hokage > 3rd hokage. It was said hiruzen was the strongest kage during his reign, and the strongest hokage konoha has ever produced, and the god of shinobi. The only reason madara praised the 1st hokage so much was because he was very powerful and his rival that he couldn't beat. For all we know Hiruzen could have been a child when the 1st hokage and madara faught, in other words, there's no proof that madara ever witnessed hiruzen in his prime. So ofcourse he isn't going to say things like "only the 1st and 3rd hokages could stop me".
     
         
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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenUzumaki View Post
    When he said ''only Hashi could stop me'' he was actually referring in the past. During Madara's lifetime, only Hashi could stand a chance against him and pull out a good fight. He didn't say ''only Hashi can stop me'', learn the difference.

    Between, are you really saying that Hashi > Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton (senju DNA), Edo ? If that was the case it would make the Rinnegan (a extremely rare dojutsu that only the SO6P had) seem like a useless and week powerup. Oro wasn't properly controlling the edo, if that was the case, why didn't hashi use his wood dragon or create a huge poisoned forest like Madara did? + Madara's mokuton may be a bit weakier. Yeah that's right, you ain't got nothing to say.
    Anyway I'm definetely not going to waste my time debating with Hashifanboy.

    Btw, hashi died against fodder :P
    Thats actually backwards sir. He said can not could.
     
         

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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    It wasnt stated, but it was proved by it.
    Sorry dude, Naruto doesn't fit the word "perfect".. B is perfect yes. Naruto cannot sustain his BM. Therefore he is not perfect yet. And He is a real jinchuriki..hes not a fake one. B is injured due to Naruto..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    It's not impossible for Hashirama to defeat Madara, obviously, but people who use the latter's quote as 'prime' evidence (for the 1st Hokage being 'stronger') are foolish because;

    > 'Could' can indicate possibility (not that Hashirama definitely would defeat Madara [just that he has a chance against him], which some people believe Madara implied, which he did not).
    > It could mean past tense (which I disagree with).

    That's why I used the Kakashi example - he could defeat Madara if he managed to Kamui his head, although it's unlikely to happen. The fact that you could not see through this example and instead chose to take what I said out of context shows that you actually don't understand what Madara said.
    1. Madara has still to show he has surpassed Hashirama,
    2. We haven't seen Hashirama's full power.. but infact PART of it.

    With those 2 things in mind, Hashirama is technically stronger, until its proven.


    Mate, your over thinking... "could" can also mean definitely.

    Example: You are better then me at basketball, and then i go play a weaker person and I say,

    " You Noddy only could beat me"

    The problem, is structure of their rivalry, which people leave out.
    Madara had been pursuing Hashirama to get as strong as him, but failed.
    So, the upgrades need to prove that he is stronger then Hashirama.
     
         
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    Re: Bakas need to accept whats in the manga

    You made a thread for this? I don't believe you. lol Whatever floats your boat. You do realize that Kishimoto has said that Madara is the strongest character now and has no weakness?
     
         

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