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Katon with Shinta O_o
*Sits and waits for Shinta senpai*
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
*arrives in a spectacular fashion*
Hello! Tell me why you want to learn Katon and how you intend to use it in battle!
Then tell me what fire is strong against, weak against and any combinations you can think of utilizing Fire!
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
I want to learn fire because I want to master the basic 5 of course. Fire is wild and it's really hard to tame. I want fire to be part of me. I want to tame fire and i don't care what people say about it. They think is dangerous to play with fire 
I would use fire against a wind user because the wind would make my attack much stronger. I would also combine a fire technique with a wind technique for the same reason, to make my attack more stronger.
Fire is strong against wind because the air feeds the flames. Fire is week against Water because it cools and smothers the flames.
Well i would combine fire with wind. The air would make the fire technique much stronger.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Very good, you may also try combining fire with earth to create a type of lava technique 
Tell me about some properties of fire, you can watch as the flame burns the tree stump over there... Use that to give you some hints.
*Blows out a small fireball onto the tree stump*
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
*Sits and watches as the tree gets burned*
Fire properties are normally certified in the following grades: UL V-0, UL V-1, UL V-2 and UL HB. This is one is not that serious because it's just one tree stump. The flame began to expand little by little. There is also wind, so the flames picks up.
I'm not sure if this is what you wanted :shrug:
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Last edited by Kuroh; 12-19-2012 at 12:29 PM.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
O__O I'm not sure what I'm reading here 
Tell me what the fire is doing to tree stump, see how the stuff it has touched turns black? What does that tell you about the nature of fire?
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Haha, I didn't know fire was rated like that. Looks like you taught me something before I could teach you ^^
So as the fire burns it gets hot, that is attributed to the fire consuming the wood. This is the main aspect of fire, it is an element that consumes whatever it can to stay alive. The wind provides a little extra fuel and can push the flame along quicker so it spreads out.
Keep all this in mind as you'll need it in order to replicate fire with your chakra, creating your 'fire' chakra.
Use this new principle as you gather some fire chakra into your stomach, then literally spew out a small ball of fire onto the ground in front of you... I'm going to get some marshmallows ^^
What you want to be careful of here is the timing, you will initially be spewing up fire chakra where it will the become fire at the point it leaves your mouth.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay
I start to concentrate and i start to channel my Fire chakra into my stomach. After gathering enough fire chakra, i get ready and i release a small fire ball into the ground.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay then, so I believe these two are the same concept you I will post the two you have essentially learned.
I would like to you now gather your fire chakra into your lungs as your perform the Snake → Ram → Monkey → Tiger hand signs. Upon performing the last hand seal I want you to release the fire chakra in the form of a flammable gas cloud that would cover the area in front of you. Be careful as any flame or spark will cause it to erupt into a big ball of fire.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay.
I clear my mind and i start to concentrate. I then start to gather my fire chakra into my lungs. I then perform the hand seals Snake → Ram → Monkey → Tiger. Upon performing the last hand seal, i release the fire chakra in the from of a flammable gas cloud.
The area in front of me gets covered by the gas.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Very good, try not use this near another fire attack... that can not be stressed enough!
That can be detonated at your leisure but for the most part it is a deterrent against your opponent using certain attacks!
Now you will have to gather slightly more chakra than you have previously. Gather your katon chakra into your lungs and then breathe out a short flame that is incredibly hot. It should not only burn my clone, but make him collapse due to the extreme heat of the flame. Use your chakra to make the fire as hot as possible and to control the flame so that is is directed fully at my clone.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay.
I start to focus and then i start to gather my katon chakra. I keep gathering chakra and at the same time, i try to make it really hot. I use my chakra to make it as hot as possible and then i start to gather it into my lungs. I gather enough.
*Looks at the clone*
I focus and i release the hot flame at the clone with full control, making the clone collapse because of the hot flames. Then the clone disappears.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Very good indeed, nothing to criticise here.
Now I want you to once again inhale a deep breathe of air and mix it with your fire chakra while you perform the Snake → Ram → Monkey → Boar → Horse → Tiger hand seals. When you are ready I want you to form a ring with you thumb and index fingers of whatever hand you want and then exhale the flame, igniting it as it passes through the ring you made with your fingers. Use your fire chakra to shape the flame into a condensed ball of fire that should be about the same height as you. Then watch as it hits my clone and explodes in a ball of flame.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay
I start to focus and then i start to gather my fire chakra. I take a deep breath of air while mixing it up with my fire chakra. I perform the hand seals Snake → Ram → Monkey → Boar → Horse → Tiger. I put my fingers in form of a ring and i exhale the flame. I then use my fire chakra to give the flame the form condense ball of fire and the same height as me. I look at the clone, and release it to he's direction. The clone gets hit and the attack of fire explodes in a ball of flame.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Very good, I may have worded it badly but you need to take aim before releasing the fire 
Now take out a lighter and switch it on. Throw it on the ground in front of you and channel some fire chakra into it to make the flames grow into a wall that should be large enough to block any incoming attack (within reason) so basically large enough to cover you!
What is a disadvantage you can see in this jutsu?
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay.
I take out a lighter and i switch it on. I throw it on the ground in front of me and then i start to channel some of my fire chakra into it, Once i have channeled enough, The flames start to grow into a wall, Big enough to cover me.
Well what if the enemy destroys the lighter? With no lighter this jutsu is useless. Also this jutsu can't cover me from a water jutsu, it would be great to defend myself against a wind jutsu.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Think about what you can see then the wall is up?
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Oh, I wont be able to see what my opponent is doing. While it protects me, it also blinds me.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Correct, while conversely you opponent can't see you giving you an opportunity to maybe go underground, hide somewhere or prepare for an attack.
Perform the Tiger hand seal while you mix you fire chakra with your breath. Then release a stream of flame from your mouth that travels across the ground to form a flaming ring around my clone. When the circle is complete I want you to manipulate the fire to shoot multiply streams, along the ground, towards my clone where it will strike his feet.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay
I start to focus and i perform the Tiger hand seal, while mixing my fire chakra. I then release a stream of fire from my mouth, that travels across the ground, then forms into a flaming ring around the clone. Once the circle is completed, i start to manipulate the fire, it then shoots multiple streams, traveling from the ground and towards the clone. Then it strikes the clones feet.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
This is a particularly good jutsu as it allows you to control, to an extent, where your opponent moves on the battle field and keep them in the location you prefer!
Throw a kunai with a cord attached at that tree while holding on to the other end of the cord. Then perform the Snake → Dragon → Rabbit → Tiger hand seals as you gather your katon chakra, exhaling a stream of fire the quickly travels along the cord. When it hits the tree make the fire erupt into a maelstrom of fire.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Okay.
*Takes a kunai with a cord attached from my pocket*
I throw the kunai at the tree, while holding on the other end of the cord. I then perform the Snake → Dragon → Rabbit → Tiger hand seals as i gather my Katon chakra, exhaling a stream of fire that starts to quickly travel along the cord. Once the the fire hits the tree, i make the fire erupt into maelstrom of fire. Burning the tree completely.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
So this can be done with multiple cords, explain a situation where you can use this jutsu to coral my clone into an area of your choosing.
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Re: Katon with Shinta O_o
Well lets say i made the ground turn into mud and i wanted the clone to step there, so that he could get stuck. I would throw two kunais attached with cords at the clone to make fall into the mud. It has to be perfect.
A great example was when sasuke was able to do it in he's fight against Deidara. Sasuke put him in the position above he's sword, allowing him to have enough range to hit him with chidori.
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