Who's more intellegient Itachi/Kakashi/Minato?

[Midday]

Shikamaru should be #1 then.

He really shouldn't. He's also not Itachi/Kakashi/Minato.

[BlackDude]

Minato
Itachi
Kakashi

Minato and Itachi both had incredible insight and at least planned for a few things to go wrong in their ultimate plan. They both put some form of back-up into their plans (Itachi entrusting Naruto with Sasukes defection, using the crow to cast KA to "Protect Konoha") and Minato (storing a bit of chakra in case Kurama went awry). The only differences is that Minato achieved his desired outcome whereas Itachi didn't. The one area he failed to do is why I believe Minato goes on top. I also believe that under pressure, they both do a good job at identifying weaknesses in attack. Itachi with Chibaku Tensei, and Minato determining a way to land an attack on Obito.

And Kakashi is intelligent, but he hasn't had any long term plans. His analysis is on par with both. Battle tactics-wise, I believe they both still outclass him, but barely. It is possible he could analyze more about them than them him with how close they are together, but ultimately, still loses.

Minato's plan to save the world by sealing the Kyuubi into Naruto to fight Obito is still a work in progress, but is progressing.

Itachi's plan to have Sasuke be an honor to the Uchiha clan yet save Konoha actually ended in Sasuke being an international criminal (while the Uchiha were the police force?) and ended up endangering Konoha for the time being.

I may be wrong, but I though Minato plan was to protect Konoha from Obito. But didnt he fail consider it got destroyed?

[Narutohokage7]

Minato
Itachi
Kakashi

[SAmIDeXtEr]

He had a lot of hinderances at that time....Kakashi and Itachi couldn't have done better imo..
Don't be such a Hater

[RasenUchihaChaos]

1. itachi or minato last place kakashi

[Takos]

According to the manga:



There is no one better than Kakashi at analyzing. His feats also confirm that:
1. He cracked Obito's greatest defense.
2. He outsmarted Obito twice.
3. He outsmarted Itachi.
4. He saw through Itachi's lie (his reason of retreating in Part I)

I'm not sure about Minato, but Kakashi>Itachi in terms of intelligence.
Minato's intelligence mainly comes from putting Kyuubi in Naruto to oppose Obito later, leaving his chakra inside him to seal Kyuubi again, etc. Battle-wise I'm not sure we've seen much from him.

Well, we should split the general "intelligence" into "planning" and "battle intelligence".

In case of battle intelligence, it goes to Kakashi, as I said and Minato should not be qualified here, since we have seen too little.
1. Kakashi
2. Itachi

In case of planning:
1. Minato (as I said)
2. Kakashi/Itachi
3. Itachi/Kakashi

Although I'm not sure if Kakashi should be qualified, we might say that his wish to keep Sasuke in Konoha and use Chidori as a blade to protect friends is a plan. In that case, he failed.
Itachi, on the other hand also failed, because he hoped Sasuke would have become a hero, while he became a criminal.

[★YellowFlash1]

I'm asking you since you seem like your not a Minato fan

What plans did both Kakashi and Minato have that was so sucessful?

Minato was able to take out the person that is running a mock in the manga atm in a matter of about 1 minute. He stopped the 9 tails from destroying the village ... He successfully put the 9 tail naruto's body because he knew that one day he would have to fight tobi and defeat him which is what's happening atm. He's shown great feat's of Intelligence by Creating most of his arsenal, such as Rasengan which he created after analyzing the TTB, which he seen once. Death reaper seal which is an incredible jutsu, also another jutsu that has yet to be beaten on speed FTG.

He was able to see that Kakashi's lightning blade wasn't right after seeing it for 1 second. He was able to take out a squad of around 50 guy's.. He was hokage, he managed to stop the cloud village from taking the 9 tail's. He took A & Bee several time's are one each every time.


Kakashi was able to beat itachi at the start of part 2... He's managed to help destroy tobi's mask and id him. He was able to take out diedara's arms and save Garaa. He was able to get the information about nagato's abilities to everyone, by helping fat boy get away. He was able to help and destroy Hidan and Kakuzu. He helped naruto survive in the current's chapters by helping him destroy the tailed beasts.

He also lead a team of the Allied shinobi forces, helped them fight and piratically done most of the work in killing the 7 sword men, he used his intelligence to help naruto learn rasenshuriken in a few week's which would usually take year's.

What did Itachi do exactly ? He followed the akatsuki after getting "ORDERED" by danzo. he got help from Tobi to destroy his clan. he then got sasuke to hate him? Who wouldn't, Then after that he gave the person who hates the leaf village the most new power's a mean don't get me wrong but that sounds a little stupid?

What else did he do? Oh yeah he stopped edo Tensei with another person abilities. it was just luck for him that he was the only person that was able to break free. I don't understand why he's praised so much he's done nothing that impresses me.

Your a joke ....

[★YellowFlash1]

I may be wrong, but I though Minato plan was to protect Konoha from Obito. But didnt he fail consider it got destroyed?

He was actually able to save all the people and if it wasn't for him sealing the 9 tails away then Tobi's plan would have been complete withing a year of him taken it from the leaf. It was only because it was inside naruto that he was unable to get it.

He saved the world that day.

[Ryuchidori]

Minato without a doubt first, then Itachi but not close and after Kakashi

[Blaze Release]

This intelligence feats shouldn't be judged on planning feat alone because there are many things wrong with this.
First of all though both minato and itachi are genius one was 13 when he formatted his plan whilst the other though we dont know the age when he died, he was significantly older than itachi when he came up with his plan. To put it simple, life experience is what minato had over itachi when he planned naruto's life. Itachi at 21 has gained enough life experience to note that what he did as a kid was wrong. Asuma who isnt hailed as a genius wouldve formatted a better plan than 13 year old itachi because he isnt naive, though not a genius like itachi, he has life experience.

Secondly when itachi has been put in a tight corner by danzo, there was hardly anything to work with. Dying by sasuke's hards at that time seemed the most logical thing for itachi to plan.

Thirdly having a fortune teller help you with your plan always help, something that alot of people seem to forget. Minato's whole plan was based on something that jiraiya told him, and jiraiya got this info by the great toad sage himself.






^^ That is something people forget. Sure minato showed great intelligence in knowing that he might not be the 'savour' that jiraiya thought he was, but rather he took a gamble, yes that is what it was a gamble into believing that its not him, but rather his son is the savour that jiraiya was talking about and not him, thats when he then proceeded with his actions into sealing the fox's chakra into naruto. You simply cannot ignore the fact that minato had a massive tip off from jiraiya when he came up with his plan Whether Minato wouldve still went on with his actions without knowing the info jiraiya gave him is very unlikely because all his actions were heavily based on this piece of info he got

To simply base this on planning feats is too vague. Anyway these type of threads are always subjective and opinionated. There is no right or wrong answer

[narutokage99]

Kakashi
Minato
Itachi

[Lilt]

Itachi's so smart he reads peoples' souls. Kakashi is as smart as Shikamaru. Dunno 'bout Minato.

[Takos]

Itachi's so smart he reads peoples' souls.

This is actually not a sign of being especially intelligent, rather being a good psychologist, you know.

[romeboii]

itach is a genius true but do you realise his plan failed sasuke is evil and a criminal...it has to be minato because he set naruto up to be able to compete with madara not an easy feat

[garas56]

1.Kakashi-He is still allive no doubt his inteligense did allot of job alot of jutsus god analyzis. (3)
2.Minato-Dead Fast reaction god skills (2,8)
3.Itachi-Dead the one of the moust inteligent ninjas with huge powers and chackra (2,6)

[Lilt]

This is actually not a sign of being especially intelligent, rather being a good psychologist, you know.

Seriously?

itach is a genius true but do you realise his plan failed sasuke is evil and a criminal...it has to be minato because he set naruto up to be able to compete with madara not an easy feat

This is incorrect reasoning because Naruto himself admitted that Sasuke and him could have easily have switched places, with Naruto being the villain and Sasuke the hero. It was pure chance that Naruto turned out alright and Sasuke didn't.

[★YellowFlash1]

Seriously?



This is incorrect reasoning because Naruto himself admitted that Sasuke and him could have easily have switched places, with Naruto being the villain and Sasuke the hero. It was pure chance that Naruto turned out alright and Sasuke didn't.

Naruto is just a good natured people, he fought against evil many times along the way, sometimes he nearly went over the edge and yes in a way he was saved by the other's around him, but it's mostly to do with the fact that he didn't want to give in to hatred.

Sasuke also had lot's of people that were their to save him, Kakashi , naruto & Sakura. That's where the difference lies, is that sasuke wasn't strong enough to say not to evil just like all the other people before him... ( Obito, Nagato ect ect ...

[romeboii]

itachi may had been young but he was wise beyond his years he may had been bacjed into a corner but he made a wise choice in sacrificing his name for his family and his brother he set sasuke up to be a hero and loved which was a wise plan considering what he would have to go through he made 1flaw that was using hatred to motivate him...minato was also backed against a wall with the death of his wife near yet he was able to stay calm and make the best decision for every one sealing kurama in the naruto was more then just a gamble of him being the savior he used a seal that made it that naruto can become the perfect jinchiruki even more then bee is...he used wisdom to set a plan in motion that would save the world...itachi however brillant he is made a plan that is making sasuke cause more turmoil being that he is fueled by the hatred itachi 1st planted in him that orochimaru and obito nutured so he would turn out thinking the exact opposite of itachi's true wish...and no asuma could not have thought of a better plan cause he lacks the power to execute a plan like that(he lost to hidan

[romeboii]

you do realize kabuto is mocking him rite

[Champ]

Itachi, everyone else doesn't matter.

[Lilt]

Sasuke also had lot's of people that were their to save him, Kakashi , naruto & Sakura. That's where the difference lies, is that sasuke wasn't strong enough to say not to evil just like all the other people before him... ( Obito, Nagato ect ect ...

Nobody was there for Sasuke in his youth though, which is what Naruto was referring to. His exact sentiment was "if I didn't have Iruka..." then he could have turned out to be a monster worse than part one Gaara, and one that Sasuke, in another universe, would be tasked as the hero to stop.

And personally, I don't think Kakashi, Naruto, or Sakura "being there" for Sasuke is a good excuse. Kakashi has a very distant and aloof personality. Naruto was a brat that just wanted to prove himself until the end of part two. Sakura was a girl mesmerized by looks and an illustrious family name. There was nothing really concrete there to begin with. It's true that they all became attached to Sasuke in their own way, but that doesn't mean that they were there for Sasuke. Iruka was a legitimate father figure who had no superficial, competitive, obligatory, or otherwise ulterior motives to care for Naruto.

[Takos]

Nobody was there for Sasuke in his youth though, which is what Naruto was referring to. His exact sentiment was "if I didn't have Iruka..." then he could have turned out to be a monster worse than part one Gaara, and one that Sasuke, in another universe, would be tasked as the hero to stop.

And personally, I don't think Kakashi, Naruto, or Sakura "being there" for Sasuke is a good excuse. Kakashi has a very distant and aloof personality. Naruto was a brat that just wanted to prove himself until the end of part two. Sakura was a girl mesmerized by looks and an illustrious family name. There was nothing really concrete there to begin with. It's true that they all became attached to Sasuke in their own way, but that doesn't mean that they were there for Sasuke. Iruka was a legitimate father figure who had no superficial, competitive, obligatory, or otherwise ulterior motives to care for Naruto.

It was Sasuke who separated himself from everyone even in the academy. He was alone just like Naruto, but the difference is: Naruto was alone because no one cared about him and Sasuke was alone because HE didn't care about anyone. Heck, Sasuke was extremely popular, it was 100% his choice that he was alone, not anyone else's, as opposed to Naruto's case.

Also, while it's true that Kakashi has a personality of a "lone wolf" sort of, he cared deeply about his whole team, Sasuke included. If I remember correctly, he even stated in Part II that Sasuke was his favorite student. He did what he could, explained to Sasuke what's really important, tried to make him choose the right path and there's nothing more he could have done, really.

[Prime Rib]

Its hard but most likely kakashi or minato

[TrollingSage]

Everyone had help respectively. Minato had Jman, Itachi had sharingan(yes sharingan inevitably guides ur decisions making) and kakashi had sharingan as well. I would rate minato over itachi and kakashi becuz he had experience. Kakashi has alot of analytical intelligence but not alot of practical intelligence, due to his life style mainly(lack of taslk no jutsu). So i rate itachi over kakashi for this reason

[romeboii]

sasuke was alone because his family died but all the girls liked him and he just ignored them decided to be a loner..naruto was alone because people hated him and he did not even know why naruto had a legitimate reason to hate every one but he did not he just wanted to be treated normal instead people shunned him for reasons he did not know..sasuke was acknowledged he just shunned every one else