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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by LolaxXx View Post
    Mokuton was his Kekki Genkai
    The abilities whiched he used, his auto healing, and strength plus character is what made him legendary
    Ooohh...so he can control tailed beats with healing and strength. That is cool.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

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    You can't compare the two. Wood release has many advantages, thus he build the village with it and Hashirama has accomplished a lot with it as well. On the other hand, Kamui has been fancy to cool to see used but has done nothing, but remove Deidara's arm and save his ass from dying.
    plot no jutsu - kishi just doesn't put kamui on offensive whereas it even more effective thn raikiri...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    The problem is that the Kamui is to OP. He is very strong, he can beat some of the Kages: Old Hiruzen, 4th Kazekage, 5th Mizukage, 5th Hokage ( but this is debetable)
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Sasuke stabbed by danzo


    Sasuke getting healed by karin


    So even without Ka, sasuke might of died of his wounds.

    Danzo's Eye started working Here


    Yet he chose to Grab karin instead of instantly using Ka.
    Read what Tobi Says: "He can't decide to use it as a Genjutsu (KA), or Throw it away like izanagi. ALso Danzo states "i should use shisui's genjutsu on Madara".


    Aswell as stalling, he gave sasuke a little speach while he was holding Karin, he could of easily used KA if he really wanted to.
    What? There is no indication of that happening, so that point is groundless. He was injured, yes. But near death? Not even close.

    Look, this is what actually happened - all the fight points -




    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-57473-1...apter-510.html - He was using one of the most powerful jutsus in the entire naruto-verse used by the sage and the only Jutsu he ever created – albeit incomplete: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-57473-1...apter-510.html .

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-7...apter-477.html - Sasuke was getting worn out very quickly because of testing his Sussano and Amatersu.

    He summoned baku: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-7...apter-479.html - Used Wind element Vaccum blade as well: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-8...apter-479.html.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html Another technique.
    So after over-using Izanagi and all these techniques, he was draning his chakra like crazy.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Danzo’s Chakra level took a huge dive to avoid his attacks. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Another Chakra dip, yet by releasing it, it conserves it a bit, still putting such a huge risk on him. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - Sasuke forcing him to drain all his chakra.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-9...apter-480.html - Shisui’s eye never recovered for him to use it.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - This is when he brought it out to use his final kept trump card.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - But, he was still dying.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - You mean she healed him after he was already beaten? And he was really in such a bad shape. During the fight, you said?

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - Karin never helped Sasuke figure out the technique. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-7...apter-480.html - When Sasuke took advantage of his supreme foolishness to come out on top.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46747-2...apter-481.html - Sasuke never gave him a chance to use Shisui’s eye, and paralyzed him with his sword of Kusanagi technique, paralysizing his whole body. See his arm shaking?

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46747-1...apter-481.html - Tobi only told him to jump away.



    Danzo was already dying, he just didn't want to go down alone. That statement was made when things were different. Sasuke used Sword of Kusanagi on him to never give him a chance. Also, it was an Uchiha eye, what difference would it make on Sasuke or Tobi for that matter?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Yes, powerful! No, kage level! I'm sorry but take away his Kamui and I say he's no stronger than Maito Gai
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    Ok, I', getting quite confused with all the Kakashi hype, with him going against top tier shinobi and his ranking be compared to the title of "KAGE." Last time I checked Kakashi has defeated no one of any signifance, countering simple jutsu means nothing at this point. In all his fights i have yet to be impressed, they are entertaining however (vs. Hidan). Despite this what has he done to be full Kage level, who can he beat w/o question that puts him at this level?

    I have noted that he for sure has skill, with analyzing a situation, countering specific jutus, etc but fails to pull out a win. Therefore, I'm not hating on his character, hell I use to be a fan but I'm not seeing all this hype behind him of late.

    For me I see Kakashi as Jonin Level, which in itself is still very impressive but the ranking itself is being underrated. There is no such thing as low Kage, that's NB talk, you either have it or you dont.


    Can he defeat anyone in top 10? 15? (depending on ones ranking)

    Again, this isn't me hating but rather trying to understand this hype because I dont see how its emerged.

    You are dumb How isn't Kakashi Kage level if the leaf village was going to make him Hokage in Tsunade was in a coma state.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    You guys are idiots. Of course he is jonin level if he fights w/o the sharingan or has a low mastery of it. I'll give it to him that he got spanked by both pain, and that other akatski but over the past few chapters he has been gaining mastery of the sharingan. He already does things Obito can't do, and he can do the same thing obito does. He can teleport, he can suck in or push things out with his eye. He pushed Naruto in/out of the dimension, pulled himself out/teleported and can even teleport things from a distance something that Obito can't do. I'll give the fact that Obito has more compatibility/less chakra drain due to Uchiha blood, and the fact that he can absorb/push out more with his eyes but that is only when he physically touches something. The sharingan itself with abilities unknown until Kakashi gains mastery of it puts him in a different level. Quit criticizing him from back when he fought the mist guy because the whole chapter/plot changed.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    What? There is no indication of that happening, so that point is groundless. He was injured, yes. But near death? Not even close.

    Look, this is what actually happened - all the fight points -




    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-57473-1...apter-510.html - He was using one of the most powerful jutsus in the entire naruto-verse used by the sage and the only Jutsu he ever created – albeit incomplete: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-57473-1...apter-510.html .

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-43541-7...apter-477.html - Sasuke was getting worn out very quickly because of testing his Sussano and Amatersu.

    He summoned baku: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-7...apter-479.html - Used Wind element Vaccum blade as well: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-8...apter-479.html.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html Another technique.
    So after over-using Izanagi and all these techniques, he was draning his chakra like crazy.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Danzo’s Chakra level took a huge dive to avoid his attacks. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-44811-1...apter-478.html - Another Chakra dip, yet by releasing it, it conserves it a bit, still putting such a huge risk on him. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - Sasuke forcing him to drain all his chakra.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-9...apter-480.html - Shisui’s eye never recovered for him to use it.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - This is when he brought it out to use his final kept trump card.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - But, he was still dying.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-1...apter-480.html - You mean she healed him after he was already beaten? And he was really in such a bad shape. During the fight, you said?

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-45540-1...apter-479.html - Karin never helped Sasuke figure out the technique. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46287-7...apter-480.html - When Sasuke took advantage of his supreme foolishness to come out on top.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46747-2...apter-481.html - Sasuke never gave him a chance to use Shisui’s eye, and paralyzed him with his sword of Kusanagi technique, paralysizing his whole body. See his arm shaking?

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-46747-1...apter-481.html - Tobi only told him to jump away.



    Danzo was already dying, he just didn't want to go down alone. That statement was made when things were different. Sasuke used Sword of Kusanagi on him to never give him a chance. Also, it was an Uchiha eye, what difference would it make on Sasuke or Tobi for that matter?
    I've already shown you the scan where obito States Danzo's Eye is ready, and the scan where danzo said (to himself), that he didn't want to use the genjutsu on Sasuke but save it for "Madara".
    Danzo has a big time Gap between uncovering his Eye to getting stabbed through karin, Easily enough time to cast KA.

    Sasuke did noot attack befor he could use it, Since he never really planned on using it on sasuke because of Obito being there.

    As i said, he gave sasuke a little speach befor sasuke stabbed with chidori spear, he could of used it if he did not have "Madara" to fight afterwards.

    IF Obito wasn't there watching over the fight, Danzo would of KA'ed sasuke, Fact.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is Kage lvl for sure and even much more powerful stop spaming that he wuld be much more veaker if he dont have Obitos eye u cant know that Maybe he wuld master an jutsus that can counter obitos attacks or even Kill him.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    that's ridiculous, one jutsu doesnt put you at Kage level
    But more jutsu than 1000 makes him Kage lvl. He was Hatake Kakashi the copy ninja. Plus his handseals speed was pretty awesome. That makes him kage level.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    that's ridiculous, one jutsu doesnt put you at Kage level
    Um FTG?- the 4th hokage
    Dust Release? 3rd Turshikage
    Lighting Armor tech.? A and His Dad
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    In addition he has Orbito's MS Technique- this means he could to a limited degree he can make himself ethereal, absorb himself, items, and others. Has copied numerous techniques, is extremely fast (can avoid hidan/kakazu and release his ms at the same instant as Obito, and can keep up with itachi), is extremely intelligent, and he increased his chakara.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    i dont think he is top tep either.

    But he is indeed kage level as before when Tsunade was
    in a coma and before Danzo, kakashi was the candidate to kage
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype



    People mention how he was asked to be HOkage, but the fact is even during part 1 The village was all out of top shinobi and were desperate for anyone at this point, especially if it couldnt be one of the Sannin.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    I think you underrate Kakashi heavily. hes kage level but i do think hes overrated by some.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by roncato View Post
    But more jutsu than 1000 makes him Kage lvl. He was Hatake Kakashi the copy ninja. Plus his handseals speed was pretty awesome. That makes him kage level.
    worng knowing just any jutsu dont make you kage, its the power behind these jutsu and ones intellect.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    worng knowing just any jutsu dont make you kage, its the power behind these jutsu and ones intellect.
    Right.
    Kakashi is among the ninjas with the highest intellect in Narutoverse.
    And power?
    Kamui, Raikiri, Raiton Clone, Water Dragon , Rasengan and thats just to name some
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by hatake axel View Post
    Right.
    Kakashi is among the ninjas with the highest intellect in Narutoverse.
    And power?
    Kamui, Raikiri, Raiton Clone, Water Dragon , Rasengan and thats just to name some
    only one of those jutsu would cause any top tier shinobi a problem and that's Kamui, which he havent been able to capitalize on yet! Kakashi has an OP jutsu but havent won a match w/ or w/o it, his intellect and low rank range of jutsu doesnt make him Kage level.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    i agree kakashi has ben fodderized by itachi and obito
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    I see where you're coming from, but I do put him higher than jounin. compare to the other jounin he is greater. but not kage level. he's ANBU level in my book. tho he could be the Hokage until Naruto's ready because of experience and the knowledge he holds about the village.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Actually, a lot of the time one jutsu makes someone kage level (FTG, Dust Release, EMS/MS)
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Firstly yes he's kage level for sure, how strong well against the current kage he probably only loses to A because of speed and raw power. And yes kamui really is that strong, look how easily he made deidera an armless ragdoll.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    I've already shown you the scan where obito States Danzo's Eye is ready, and the scan where danzo said (to himself), that he didn't want to use the genjutsu on Sasuke but save it for "Madara".
    Danzo has a big time Gap between uncovering his Eye to getting stabbed through karin, Easily enough time to cast KA.

    Sasuke did noot attack befor he could use it, Since he never really planned on using it on sasuke because of Obito being there.

    As i said, he gave sasuke a little speach befor sasuke stabbed with chidori spear, he could of used it if he did not have "Madara" to fight afterwards.

    IF Obito wasn't there watching over the fight, Danzo would of KA'ed sasuke, Fact.
    And I've shown you the whole fight with the point you made, along with the fact that he was near death. Read my post again: Obito, 'you never got a chance to use it'. Next image, his hand is trembling because he's paralyzed.

    I don't think so, as Danzo was going at Sasuke with an intent to kill from the start. Your points are completely invalid.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by shelke View Post
    And I've shown you the whole fight with the point you made, along with the fact that he was near death. Read my post again: Obito, 'you never got a chance to use it'. Next image, his hand is trembling because he's paralyzed.

    I don't think so, as Danzo was going at Sasuke with an intent to kill from the start. Your points are completely invalid.
    He was going to kill him, but not with KA, As Danzo himself stated he wanted to save it for Madara.

    Not even going to Factor Danzo starting the fight Gimped (KA on cooldown), Danzo had chances to kill sasuke in the fight, Both times he could of killed him (with Ka, Or Cutting his head off when he planted the curse on him), but Danzo gave him a speech both times.

    If Tobi wasn't there, danzo would of simply Ka'ed him instead of taking karin hostage.

    Also obito states he didn't have a chance to use izanagi Not that he didn't have a chance to KA him.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    kakashi's hype is kumai to any location he wants. obito did that to minato and lost hand to hand.....kakashi is not really kage level
     
         

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