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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    see this is a major issue, we havent seen antything from Meiyet ppl downplay her character, than as a result lower the ranking of Kage. Asuma doesnt not represent for all Jounin that stupid to consider.
    She was fighting against Madara, I think that she wasnt holding back against him. As for the bolded part - Asuma was considered a strong Jounin in Narutoversum, he was choosen to be one of Daymios bodyguards afterall and owned whole group of Jounins and Chuunins from Otogakure. Same with Zabuza, he was elite Jounin of his village yet current Kakashi is easily stronger than him.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    that's ridiculous, one jutsu doesnt put you at Kage level
    Tell that to A and his raiton armor, Gaara and his sand, etc.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    WE CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT KAMUI TO ITACHI'S TOTSUKA SWORD

    can not be countered by any jutsu, can not be escaped

    so is itachi GODLY ?? - if Kakashi is Kage level then that must make Itachi = so6p ?

    ridiculous

    Kakashi is a Skilled fodder , Nowhere near to Kage level
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    She was fighting against Madara, I think that she wasnt holding back against him. As for the bolded part - Asuma was considered a strong Jounin in Narutoversum, he was choosen to be one of Daymios bodyguards afterall and owned whole group of Jounins and Chuunins from Otogakure. Same with Zabuza, he was elite Jounin of his village yet current Kakashi is easily stronger than him.
    they barely displayed her doing anything agasint Madara, and she was mentally defeatedas she knew it was a lost causelol she said **** it no need to go all out. But seriously, she wasnt shown hardly at all, at least for her to have any special moments. Asuma is only one example, the strength in Jounin ranges just like it does in everything else, Dariius in a Jouinin yet took on Kin/Gin, Gai is Jounin, Garra's brother is Jounin and he possess Sasori's body. The fact is one cant stamp the ranking of Kage and Jouinin simply off how the perceive one character.

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilt View Post
    Tell that to A and his raiton armor, Gaara and his sand, etc.
    Garra's sand is not a jutsu, he performs a variety of jutsu using his sand -_-

    A's armor enhances HIS abilites in which he performs -_-
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    that's ridiculous, one jutsu doesnt put you at Kage level
    according to Edo tensei it makes you good. with ET kabuto is number one because of 1 jutsu. what do you have t say abut that? when it was believed that Tsunade was dead they were going to select kakashi. so how is he not kage level when he is in the conversation of "Whos the next Hokage". Look Kakashi is dope. hes detestably Top 10 or 15

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    WE CAN SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT KAMUI TO ITACHI'S TOTSUKA SWORD

    can not be countered by any jutsu, can not be escaped

    so is itachi GODLY ?? - if Kakashi is Kage level then that must make Itachi = so6p ?

    ridiculous

    Kakashi is a Skilled fodder , Nowhere near to Kage level
    What is a SKILLED FODDER? Your and Idiot. What does skilled mean? YOU ARE NOT FODDER. What does fodder mean? YOU ARE NOT SKILLED. Just stop. Kakashi is fighting Obito which in my opinion is the strongest living shinobi as of now.[not counting the Edo madara] dudes not dead yet so obviously hes not a fodder. he did almost die but that in no way makes him a fodder. kakashi was never a fodder. Jonin rank ninja in his teens but dude is a fodder chill out.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
    according to Edo tensei it makes you good. with ET kabuto is number one because of 1 jutsu. what do you have t say abut that? when it was believed that Tsunade was dead they were going to select kakashi. so how is he not kage level when he is in the conversation of "Whos the next Hokage". Look Kakashi is dope. hes detestably Top 10 or 15
    Kabuto was already top 10 w/o Edo; DSM, sound abilities, Orochimaru abilities, Manda 2, intelligence, regeneration, medic ninjutsu. You can't compare them. Who else would have been choosen fr Hokage? I'm waiting for someone to answer that as the village needed a new representative ASAP.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is not kage level. He's not stronger than any kages. He's high jounin at max.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPin90 View Post
    Kabuto was already top 10 w/o Edo; DSM, sound abilities, Orochimaru abilities, Manda 2, intelligence, regeneration, medic ninjutsu. You can't compare them. Who else would have been choosen fr Hokage? I'm waiting for someone to answer that as the village needed a new representative ASAP.

    Your right,, he was top ten with DSM but obviously not number one without it. he had the advantage of terrain and they were not trynna kill him and he still lost. obviously he needs that jutsu to be deemed number one. yes you can compare the two because he needs ET to be on top. without it he gets defeated. and if your number 1 you dont lose when you have the advantage to begin with. and konoha is not gonna pick a weak hokage. Thats absurd. so what they rushed but they were not gonna pick a fodder for the job. kakashi is the strongest jonin in konoha. he is overrated but still he is kage level. Low kage level and hes getting better over time.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
    Your right,, he was top ten with DSM but obviously not number one without it. he had the advantage of terrain and they were not trynna kill him and he still lost. obviously he needs that jutsu to be deemed number one. yes you can compare the two because he needs ET to be on top. without it he gets defeated. and if your number 1 you dont lose when you have the advantage to begin with. and konoha is not gonna pick a weak hokage. Thats absurd. so what they rushed but they were not gonna pick a fodder for the job. kakashi is the strongest jonin in konoha. he is overrated but still he is kage level. Low kage level and hes getting better over time.
    Kabuto's hands were tied during that match as well, He wanted sasuke's body, and knew that Itachi couldn't be killed, I think if he was going in for the actual kill, he'd have done it with that one Dragon sage mode jutsu that blinds and deafens ppl.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
    Your right,, he was top ten with DSM but obviously not number one without it. he had the advantage of terrain and they were not trynna kill him and he still lost. obviously he needs that jutsu to be deemed number one. yes you can compare the two because he needs ET to be on top. without it he gets defeated. and if your number 1 you dont lose when you have the advantage to begin with. and konoha is not gonna pick a weak hokage. Thats absurd. so what they rushed but they were not gonna pick a fodder for the job. kakashi is the strongest jonin in konoha. he is overrated but still he is kage level. Low kage level and hes getting better over time.
    This post fails as Kabuto wasn't trying to kill neither Itachi or Sauke too. He didn't even go all out and went against a Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke at the same time. With being able to hold his own against them without going full out this is already OP, even if they were too. Also, with his abilities alone who could have defeated him? Naruto and Tobi, that's it do if he sued Edi like Naruto uses the kyuubi and Tobi uses Gezo and tailed beast, you damn right he can use Edo to be considered #1.

    Since you already acknowledge he is Jounin level why do you argue??? There aren't even anyone else worth mentioning in the village except him or Gai, what other Jounin lol
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    that's ridiculous, one jutsu doesnt put you at Kage level
    Yep it does.

    Obito's S/T.

    amaterasu

    Susanoo

    Edo tensei

    Anyone with these techs can easily reach kage level.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Yep it does.

    Obito's S/T.

    amaterasu

    Susanoo

    Edo tensei

    Anyone with these techs can easily reach kage level.
    Tobi's S/T alone didnt put him in top ten, he didnt become top until recently and he has more than just S/T, thus rinnsegan.

    amaterasu and Susanoo compliment each other, you have one without the each, that's two OP jutus and usually the user has plenty more.

    Edo alone hasnt determined ones power.

    Each of these are OP but alone doesnt make you Kage
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPin90 View Post
    This post fails as Kabuto wasn't trying to kill neither Itachi or Sauke too. He didn't even go all out and went against a Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke at the same time. With being able to hold his own against them without going full out this is already OP, even if they were too. Also, with his abilities alone who could have defeated him? Naruto and Tobi, that's it do if he sued Edi like Naruto uses the kyuubi and Tobi uses Gezo and tailed beast, you damn right he can use Edo to be considered #1.

    Since you already acknowledge he is Jounin level why do you argue??? There aren't even anyone else worth mentioning in the village except him or Gai, what other Jounin lol

    No. Kabuto went all out he just failed. he was trying to kill them both. stop trynna give excuses. i said he is a jonin not he is jonin level. you cannot read i guess. naruto is genin but no genin level. he would have been hokage so would you then say he was kage level because of his change in rank? no you wouldnt. but me and all of konoha seems to think he is KAGE level. Just admit it. Kakashi is kage level

    3 elements/4 counting anime
    1000 jutsus
    The most s rank mission completions in konoha
    Awakened and learned how to us MS without uchiha DNA

    This is low kage level with MS 3/4 elements and 1k jutsu. you dont have to agree he is kage level just dont ignore the evidence either. you cant say he isnt low kage level if you do then your ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu View Post
    Kabuto's hands were tied during that match as well, He wanted sasuke's body, and knew that Itachi couldn't be killed, I think if he was going in for the actual kill, he'd have done it with that one Dragon sage mode jutsu that blinds and deafens ppl.
    I disagree with some points[not all] but i also see the not trynna kill sasuke point . Kabuto did have some disadvantages but the match all and all was in his favor regaurdless of if it was two on one. my point is with ET summons he would have won meaning one jutsu does matter. it can make the difference between your levels.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    Tobi's S/T alone didnt put him in top ten, he didnt become top until recently and he has more than just S/T, thus rinnsegan.

    amaterasu and Susanoo compliment each other, you have one without the each, that's two OP jutus and usually the user has plenty more.

    Edo alone hasnt determined ones power.

    Each of these are OP but alone doesnt make you Kage
    OBito's S/T does make him Kage.

    His rinnegan hasn't really added much to his power as of late because he cannot use the techs due to having to watse chakra controlling bijuu.
    Obito's S/T alone is beating Naruto (top 5), Kakashi and Gai's asses.
    He might as well not even have the rinnegan since he isn't even using it, he used it once to pin the 5tails down.

    Amaterasu Can defeat anyone without speed levels on par with raikage or ocular impairment techs, Skill levels doesn't matter, Look/Fire/win. Done.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
    No. Kabuto went all out he just failed. he was trying to kill them both. stop trynna give excuses. i said he is a jonin not he is jonin level. you cannot read i guess. naruto is genin but no genin level. he would have been hokage so would you then say he was kage level because of his change in rank? no you wouldnt. but me and all of konoha seems to think he is KAGE level. Just admit it. Kakashi is kage level

    3 elements/4 counting anime
    1000 jutsus
    The most s rank mission completions in konoha
    Awakened and learned how to us MS without uchiha DNA

    This is low kage level with MS 3/4 elements and 1k jutsu. you dont have to agree he is kage level just dont ignore the evidence either. you cant say he isnt low kage level if you do then your ignorant.
    Kabuto needed Sasuke's body and wanted to replace his seal in Itschi to regain control, do you read the manga?!?!
    He's a Jounin, so what makes him superior that makes him suddenly Kage?
    All that hype about his jutsu are irrelevant!! He hasn't used them because they are useless against top tier shinobi, which is why he hasn't won against any yet. You keep claiming his ranking with no reason of how hes proven himself, you slow fanboy.

    It's Tobi who awaken their MS and the fact that your mentioning the anime makes me not even want to take you argument serious.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
    No. Kabuto went all out he just failed. he was trying to kill them both. stop trynna give excuses. i said he is a jonin not he is jonin level. you cannot read i guess. naruto is genin but no genin level. he would have been hokage so would you then say he was kage level because of his change in rank? no you wouldnt. but me and all of konoha seems to think he is KAGE level. Just admit it. Kakashi is kage level
    Kabuto was not trying to kill sasuke, and he was only simply trying to Regain controll over Itachi.

    If kabuto truely went all out, he would of just summon some edo tensei back to help him fight.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Was elected for Hokage, which is enough to show his strength.
    Obito isnt exactly having an easy time against Kakashi.
    Defeated lots of the Edo Seven Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist
    Forced Deidara into retreat
    Hidan...
    Not a bad set of stats... for any character
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    OBito's S/T does make him Kage.

    His rinnegan hasn't really added much to his power as of late because he cannot use the techs due to having to watse chakra controlling bijuu.
    Obito's S/T alone is beating Naruto (top 5), Kakashi and Gai's asses.
    He might as well not even have the rinnegan since he isn't even using it, he used it once to pin the 5tails down.

    Amaterasu Can defeat anyone without speed levels on par with raikage or ocular impairment techs, Skill levels doesn't matter, Look/Fire/win. Done.
    Tobi's S/T simply made him a factor, but not worth ranking as he didnt demonstrate anything except avoiding attacks. His true power came once obtaining rinnegan and whether he used any of its ability is besides the point since we know what he can do with it. Having bijuu was enough and Gezo is enough at this point.

    speed, immortal, fast defenses and skill level does matter and we've seen how the skill differs from how Itachi used it compared to Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPin90 View Post
    Kabuto needed Sasuke's body and wanted to replace his seal in Itschi to regain control, do you read the manga?!?!
    He's a Jounin, so what makes him superior that makes him suddenly Kage?
    All that hype about his jutsu are irrelevant!! He hasn't used them because they are useless against top tier shinobi, which is why he hasn't won against any yet. You keep claiming his ranking with no reason of how hes proven himself, you slow fanboy.

    It's Tobi who awaken their MS and the fact that your mentioning the anime makes me not even want to take you argument serious.
    So much fail in so little time. He is kage level because of his skills. he is not hokage because tsunade is alive. what dont you understand about that? no matter how you look at it he is skilled enough to be a kage. this is not an argument.

    Kakashi>Mei
    Kakashi>Gaara

    but hes not kage level? Your just ignorant to the facts. honestly im done arguing with you. your to ignorant to the fact the dude has skills. Why cant you admit that? im not saying the dude is hashirama level just low kage level. your just a hater straight up. Kakashi is the man and you cant take it. everyone in this fight in my opinion is low to high kage level. Madara,Obito,Naruto,Bee,Kakashi and Gai

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kabuto was not trying to kill sasuke, and he was only simply trying to Regain controll over Itachi.

    If kabuto truely went all out, he would of just summon some edo tensei back to help him fight.
    I understand that now, but even then i guess the match was pretty much even. both sides had advantages and disadvantages. i was only saying that to say with ET he is undefeatable, without it he is. so one technique makes a difference.
     
         
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