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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by robert31393 View Post
    -kakashi joined anbu at a young age
    -created Class A Jutsu(Chidori) at the age of 12/13
    -graduated from the academy before his generation
    -he copied over a thousand jutsus and mastered his sharingan without having the advantage of senju nor uchiha dna
    -one of the most intelligent ninjas in the series. very known for analyzing an opponents techs and weaknesses
    -kakashi would be a great ninja to have for support because he will always have your back no matter what. this has been shown in many battles throughout the series
    -he gets better at kamui every time he uses it. soon enough he will be better than obito at it.

    kakashi is definitely kage level. he may not be able to heal like tsunade, or able to manipulate sand like gaara, or may not be able to do particle style like Oonoki but he can most likely win against every current kage(except Oonoki). Besides, if kakashi wasnt kage level then the elders would have never considered him to be the next hokage when tsunade was in a coma
    They considered him as hokage because there was no1 esle...gai is there but he lacks brains...Shikaku has brains but he lacks S rank jutsus...Sarutobi is dead...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by robert31393 View Post
    -kakashi joined anbu at a young age
    -created Class A Jutsu(Chidori) at the age of 12/13
    -graduated from the academy before his generation
    -he copied over a thousand jutsus and mastered his sharingan without having the advantage of senju nor uchiha dna
    -one of the most intelligent ninjas in the series. very known for analyzing an opponents techs and weaknesses
    -kakashi would be a great ninja to have for support because he will always have your back no matter what. this has been shown in many battles throughout the series
    -he gets better at kamui every time he uses it. soon enough he will be better than obito at it.

    kakashi is definitely kage level. he may not be able to heal like tsunade, or able to manipulate sand like gaara, or may not be able to do particle style like Oonoki but he can most likely win against every current kage(except Oonoki). Besides, if kakashi wasnt kage level then the elders would have never considered him to be the next hokage when tsunade was in a coma
    They considered him as hokage because there was no1 esle...gai is there but he lacks brains...Shikaku has brains but he lacks S rank jutsus...Sarutobi is dead...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Is Kakashi kage level?
    Kishi thinks he is so I do aswell.


     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    This shouldn't even be getting debated.. Tsunade, Jiraiya, and the Jonin Council headed by Shikaku all said that he would make a capable Kage.

    One of the great things about Konoha is that they churn out a lot of exceptional shinobi who are capable of holding the position. Kakashi, Gai, Homura, Koharu, Shikaku, Naruto, and Tsunade. Until only just recently they also had Jiraiya and Danzo. I can't think of another village that has so many promising candidates.

    Sunagakure has Ebizu and Gaara.

    Kumogakure has A, B, and Darui.

    Iwagakure has Onoki and Kitsuchi.

    Mizugakure just has Mei..

    Konoha ftw.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is kage level. And one jutsu does put you up there. C'mon what have you been reading
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPin90 View Post
    Who the **** else was gonna be Hokage? Dumbass
    Your a poor excuse for a fan. insulting one for their opinion. Your just a hater. stop insulting people because they share different views.

    Quote Originally Posted by IIB7252 View Post
    They considered him as hokage because there was no1 esle...gai is there but he lacks brains...Shikaku has brains but he lacks S rank jutsus...Sarutobi is dead...
    Horrible logic. kakashi is smart and has s rank jutsu...you defeat yourself with your own argument.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

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    Ok, I', getting quite confused with all the Kakashi hype, with him going against top tier shinobi and his ranking be compared to the title of "KAGE." Last time I checked Kakashi has defeated no one of any signifance, countering simple jutsu means nothing at this point. In all his fights i have yet to be impressed, they are entertaining however (vs. Hidan). Despite this what has he done to be full Kage level, who can he beat w/o question that puts him at this level?

    I have noted that he for sure has skill, with analyzing a situation, countering specific jutus, etc but fails to pull out a win. Therefore, I'm not hating on his character, hell I use to be a fan but I'm not seeing all this hype behind him of late.

    For me I see Kakashi as Jonin Level, which in itself is still very impressive but the ranking itself is being underrated. There is no such thing as low Kage, that's NB talk, you either have it or you dont.

    Can he defeat anyone in top 10? 15? (depending on ones ranking)

    Again, this isn't me hating but rather trying to understand this hype because I dont see how its emerged.
    Who has A, Mei,oonoki, tsunade,or gaara beat of significance?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

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    Who the **** else was gonna be Hokage? Dumbass
    This so funny. You called him an ignorant name and gave him an answer with a question instead of giving a direct answer because you had none. I can all ready hear the excuses.

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    Now to direct this Idiotic post on how Kakashi is not Kage level. Like I always say most like to just look at the pretty pictures and not read the manga. Kakashi accomplished many feats in his life. Most of them have been all ready told so I would have no need to repeat them. Now you give Kakashi little credit. Now we would have to start with Kakashi chakra level, which is very low. [BNOW GET THIS ONE THROUGH YOUR SKULL, HE WAS CHOSEN TO BE HOKAGE BECAUSE HE IS KAGE LEVEL REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION AT HAND.[/B] Kakashi works just as hard as Gai if you have not noticed his practices here and there. Unlike your brain with low IQ levels. Kakashi has proven himself. And if you somehow need re assurance from this comment by all means read the manga again and pay attention this time.

    Kakashi has been in the battlefield since it started having to give 100% of what hes got. By his 1st fight he should of been worn out and in the hospital bed. But what does the manga show? He is still going at it to the fullest of his abilities. And like many other ninjas they have yet to show Kakashi's full ability and like others said many of his other copied jutsus. Not only has he in little time shown improvement of what his can do with his MS but he has also found a way to increase his chakra level. And hes still not kage level? Please!!!! If you dont like him its all right not everyone is ment to be liken by everyone. Kakashi was chosen because he qualified as a kage and not because they had not other choice. Naruto was all ready had SM and can trample kakashi. Why wasnt naruto put in the mix? Now so your pee wee brain can grasp the concept you need skills and intelligence to create the best decision to make sure that you can give the best guarantee of the safety of your people. And Kakashi has that ability and thats why Kakashi is kage level. If you dont like the idea of him being at that level well tough and suck it up because its there and there is nothing you can do about it but piss and moan about it.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    This is Absurd. I blame Kishi for not showing Kakashi's fights against The Swordsmen. He's definitely Kage level. You guys are stuck with Kakashi's Pre-War Image. He Fought the strongest generation of Mist Swordsmen , managed to survive and seal all of them (Not all by his own, but still), fought the jinchuurikis, fought Obito and Is still standing. He probably used 4-5 Kamuis and atleast half a dozen Chidori in the span of 1 day. You telling me that's not kage level ? I know you blame Plot for his "infinite chakra" but hey, Isn't EVERYTHING plot ?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi was supposed to be Kage when Tsunade was in a coma.
    He has Kamui....
    Created his own jutsu, raikiri.
    Has many jutsu's in his arsenal too.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    yhhh kakashi is hard but he is overated because of kamui
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is defenetly kage lvl or atleas hokage
    1,he was considered as hokage when tsunade was in Coma
    2.he know more 1000jutsus
    3.Kamui
    4.Intelect
    No need more evedenc.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi did defeat several badass shinobi: he beat Zabuza, the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist partly, he held against two paths of pain and selfsacraficed himself so get information to the Hokage and saved Choji so his clan can continue.
    Then as already enough people said he mastered Sharingan and Mangekyou to his DNA limited level, Chidori, does everything for his comrades, good analyze skills and intelligent, early Anbu and academy exam.
    He is strong and more importantly: Konoha does not choose a Kage by who is the strongest, but who is the best and who is trusted by the people of Konoha..so Kage level!
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is intelligent but he has no powerful large scale jutsus which is a huge downfall. As for whether he is kage level or not, I don't care and people please refrain from saying he can beat Gaara, A, or oonoki.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi just developed a new ability recently(teleportation). This could be really interesting in defensiv purposes, because thanks to that he could easily hide in his dimension while escaping a suicidal attack for example. Kakashi just shows how he improves chapters after chapters, how he becomes even more badass. If it continue to go this way(plot chakra or not), he can easily end this manga being top10 ever. Just wait, intangibility is coming
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

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    Kakashi is intelligent but he has no powerful large scale jutsus which is a huge downfall. As for whether he is kage level or not, I don't care and people please refrain from saying he can beat Gaara, A, or oonoki.
    what manga do u read?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is at Kage-level to me, not because of one jutsu. Hell, he has over 1000 jutsu... No he is incredibly smart, knows an answer in any battle-situation and indeed has a few incredible jutsu. He's not physically the strongest, but is very fast and uses technique as a great tool. Raikiri is a very powerful and fast jutsu and he even expanded it now. His Sharingan gives him extra abilty to read the opponents attacks and we don't have to argue about the power of Kamui. For as far as i've seen he has 4 nature types. He used Earth against Obito recently, Water against Zabuza, I've seen him use fire can't remember the scene at the moment and ofcourse Lightning.

    No fanboy... yeah a Kishimoto fanboy
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    Ok, I', getting quite confused with all the Kakashi hype, with him going against top tier shinobi and his ranking be compared to the title of "KAGE." Last time I checked Kakashi has defeated no one of any signifance, countering simple jutsu means nothing at this point. In all his fights i have yet to be impressed, they are entertaining however (vs. Hidan). Despite this what has he done to be full Kage level, who can he beat w/o question that puts him at this level?

    I have noted that he for sure has skill, with analyzing a situation, countering specific jutus, etc but fails to pull out a win. Therefore, I'm not hating on his character, hell I use to be a fan but I'm not seeing all this hype behind him of late.

    For me I see Kakashi as Jonin Level, which in itself is still very impressive but the ranking itself is being underrated. There is no such thing as low Kage, that's NB talk, you either have it or you dont.


    Can he defeat anyone in top 10? 15? (depending on ones ranking)

    Again, this isn't me hating but rather trying to understand this hype because I dont see how its emerged.

    You underestimate Kakashi very much so.... Out many shinobi in Narutoverse, I rank Kakashi top 10. But his greatest feat is his skills as a leader.. If you take Tsunade out of the equation, who is best suited to lead the leaf? Kakashi. The copy Ninja is getting stronger and stronger each time. You sleeping on him... Kage-Level he is...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Yea. I'm with roby. I think he's on a hokage body guard level.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    *cough* Obito *cough*
    Am not a kakashi fan but I feel he still has some jutsus up his sleeve awesome chapter tho
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

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    Your a poor excuse for a fan. insulting one for their opinion. Your just a hater. stop insulting people because they share different views.



    Horrible logic. kakashi is smart and has s rank jutsu...you defeat yourself with your own argument.
    So how about you explain who else could have been a possible consideration?? There was no one else!! Kakashi is smart and overall very skilled, but nothing significant close to being Kage. As I mentioned massive times before there are other Jounin who can be considered just as impressive in both skill and intelligence yet are still at that level Jounin, people are simply understating this title because no one with this title has shined in the leaf except Gai and Kakashi. However others have else where, Darius, Garra's brother, onooki's guard, etc.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi was going to be given the rank of Kage.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPin90 View Post
    Kakashi being the student of Minato, overall skilled and smart, of course he would be a given in a village full of fodder (excluding Gai, Naurto, and Danzo was disliked). Who else could have been choosen?!?! He's only way of defeating them would be by Kamui and that alone shouldn't place one at such a high level. Those three posses much more than just a simple jutsu, and have actually accomplished things. Kakashi sits at Kage guard level, the like vice president so when he/she are outta the picture you default the position.
    No, He could defeat the Kages i've listed with or without Kamui. (kakashi only uses kamui as a last resort, he does not rely on it), Kamui just boosts his chances slighty.
    His Speed combined with his Jutsu skill and his tatical and analytical makes him Kage level, Not only kamui.

    Kakashi being able to assassinate a Kage level shinobi (kakuzu), I would like to see any shinobi attempt this, Also while Fighting off both kakuzu and hidan at the same time while having to babysit ino and the fatty, Even Nagato deemed someone like kakashi a threat.
    While kakashi also was able to Fool the "mighty" Itachi with a shadow clone, While simultaneous hiding that clone and his real self underground and itachi almost failed to notice. At that point even itachi commented on his Jutsu skill.

    People underrate kakashi because he hasn't the raw power that the kages have, His intelligence/tatical ability easily closes the gap between their strength.
     
         
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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Kakashi is at least Kage level. Apparently, his chakra control and chakra reserves have grown immensely through out the war, so chakra is no longer the major drawback it used to be for him. Kamui is OP. No matter how much you hate the people who overrate it or whatever, the fact remains that Kamui is OP. This can not be denied. With a jutsu as hax as Kamui, kakashi is already leagues ahead of other ninja people generally rank him with. On top of his strongest jutsu being hax, he has shown that he is capable of using it multiple times in one fight... and still be able to use multiple chidori/raikiri. You can blame it on plot, but this entire manga is plot. It is fiction after all.

    Excluding Kamui, Kakashi also has a large arsenal of jutsu we have yet to see (said to have copied 1000 techniques). He is also an excellent strategist. Since this mange started being about Huge, OP, Flashy jutsu, Kakashi is one of the few characters that still analyzes the battle field and uses strategy to win. Intelligence always plays a role when talking about a leader and Kakashi is undoubtedly an intelligent shinobi. He was considered for position as sixth Hokage even with all the other people in the village who could have taken the position instead of Kakashi. He was the best candidate, and that is why they picked him; even if it was in a time of great need.

    All that being said, Kakashi is able to go toe to toe with a couple of the current Kage. Whether he wins or not is irrelevant.. no one said he would be the STRONGEST kage, but he is definitely kage level.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi Hype

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    No, He could defeat the Kages i've listed with or without Kamui. (kakashi only uses kamui as a last resort, he does not rely on it), Kamui just boosts his chances slighty.
    His Speed combined with his Jutsu skill and his tatical and analytical makes him Kage level, Not only kamui.

    Kakashi being able to assassinate a Kage level shinobi (kakuzu), I would like to see any shinobi attempt this, Also while Fighting off both kakuzu and hidan at the same time while having to babysit ino and the fatty, Even Nagato deemed someone like kakashi a threat.
    While kakashi also was able to Fool the "mighty" Itachi with a shadow clone, While simultaneous hiding that clone and his real self underground and itachi almost failed to notice. At that point even itachi commented on his Jutsu skill.

    People underrate kakashi because he hasn't the raw power that the kages have, His intelligence/tatical ability easily closes the gap between their strength.
    Underrate him or ranking in itself?? While I'm sure it's arguable that characters like Gai, Daruis, etc can defeat Mei and Tsunade based off their fighting styles, they lack the qualifications being Kage level. Kakashi has shown the ability to defend as analyze situations, but it's not his power that stops him from being Kage, but what's been displayed from his character as a whole. With his tricky tactics and defending fodder, he hasn't accomplished anything that a character of his level shouldn't have.

    As being shown as one of the main characters, besides Naruto and Sasuke themselves, we've seen and ward about his development more than anyone else, more than any thee Kage or Jounin. But from what know about Kage level shinobi is that they are powerful, intelligent and able to defend against their entire village. In all instances where we've seen villages attacked, Kakashi wouldn't have done as good as 3rd Hokage, Tsunade, Garra, Minato, etc in protecting his village or at least assisting those in need. However, he is great to help attack a situation when needed, which is where his character has been shown the most is dealing with!

    The fact is Jounin level is just below Kage, not because they would get owned by every Kage, but simply because they don't fully have help it takes to take on top tier shinobi while having save others. Kakashi can defend against top tier shinobi but no where beyond that, at some point he would need assistance and a Kage shouldn't need that in every situation.
     
         
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