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    Lili makes me smell good...

    Waits for Ms.Chwan with an empty bottle and a chocolate bar.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    AND NOW WE MAKE SMEX!!!

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lili-Chwan View Post
    AND NOW WE MAKE SMEX!!!

    *closes the curtains*
    *makes noises of a smexual nature and lols at onlookers faces through the window... That's right, I'm laughing at YOU!*

    Thanks for the welcome.... How be one?
     
         
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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    How be indeed.

    Now, let's get down to biznezz!! Perfume, is that correct? That is what you want?
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    That is indeed why we're here... Unless you're going to make me smell nice by rubbing mushrooms or death on me... Which is doubtful xD
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    lol, rub death.... >_>
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    *writes idea on my notepad*

    SO! Back to biznesz. Perfume is the pinnacle of a kunoichi. It is the weapon of queens, empresses, assassins and commoners. It is the dagger of a mother and the shield of daughter. It is the secret of a kiss and the beauty of a dance. It is an alluring death.
    So, why should you hold that power?
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    The ultimate weapon of Kunoichi. How does one who aims to surpass even yourself have any hope of doing so without wielding as you put it 'the weapon of queens.'? I should possess such a power as a legacy cannot be built on a single generation. When your time comes, perfumes time must continue through new kunoichi capable of extending the legacy of the scent through further generations. Besides, what is a woman without the tools to attract.

    (Remember what I said to you on Skype about stuff being either incredibly cheesy, or just plain awful... that's an example. )

    Really though, I just want to be able to use the wonders that perfume possesses. The whole inflicting genjutsu through the use of scent, or in a liquid form is a trait which appeals to me greatly. I studied the release for some time before actually asking you about it, I looked at how it would work with potential other CE I'm planning to submit or learn as well as it's relationship with the way I RP personally, it seemed to fit in perfectly with all that I was looking for and I'm sure that given the chance to not only learn it, but develop it with you I'll be able to turn it into more than the incedible offensive force it already is ^^. xx
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Well then, let's begin with the basics, shall we? What is perfume, how is it created, how is it created with the basic elements stated. From where does it power come, how is it structured, weaknesses, strengths, limitations
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Perfume is the name given to the outcome when a collective group of odorous materials are combined to produce a fragrant liquid. Perfumes have been in existence for many a year and are primarily used in order to add a pleasant/ attractive scent to humans or animals.

    In context of our RP perfumes main abilities come through it being highly flammable, containing in some circumstances extreme levels of acidity and through its scent (most often used in order to induce genjutsu). It is created through a combination of Water, Earth and Fire releases. The Water giving it the substance and liquid form that perfume possesses, Earth providing the natural chemicals and minerals which form the differing scents of the perfume, and fire release melting/molding everything together into a complete form of perfume.
    Perfumes abilities can be split into three categories:

    The Main Release is the natural use for perfume, using it as a scented liquid in order to add appeal to the users body.
    The Alternative Release is perfume in it's various forms, whether that be a scent left in the air in a gaseous state or as a vapourised substance.
    The third and final category is Specific Release Perfume, this refers to any perfume with a specific ability separate from merely being a scent such as; Genjutsu inducing perfumes or perfumes with high levels of acidity and toxins.

    Perfumes weaknesses to basic natural elements come in the form of Earth (to a certain extent). This is because the density and solid form of earth is enough to contain perfume and to stop it spreading, although if the earth is not thick enough the earth will merely absorb the properties of the perfume leaving the perfumes abilities to continue working.
    It's second weakness comes in the form of the lightning element, this is because many of the chemicals and minerals used to create perfumes are conductive of electricity and will thus make perfume dangerous to the user should they be in contact with the liquid when lightning connects.
    It's final weakness comes against wind, this is because wind it is able to blow perfume back and to keep the scent or spray away.

    Perfumes strengths when faced with the natural elements come against Fire release, this being because perfume as a liquid (being mostly alcohol) is highly flammable and possesses a low boiling point.
    The weakness to wind can also be exploited as a strength however as if used correctly the wind can be used to further spread the liquid and it's scent through the air. It should be stated that perfumes low freezing point makes it strong against any cold based elements also.
    Perfume is also strong against water as the water merely collects the perfume and spreads it around the battlefield without killing it's scent or abilities.

    Love the way you worded the strengths and weaknesses section. Way I see it, perfume has so specific 'weakness'. The weaknesses stated are all merely potential threats only, but if utilised correctly they can also be seen as strengths and can be used alongside perfume to perform powerful combos. One which comes to mind as an example.

    Emit a perfume which locks the opponent in a genjutsu, then as the effects take hold the user uses wave of inspiration, a near instantaneous lightning attack which mixes with the perfume and gives the opponent an almighty shock. If the genjutsu is described correctly I see no way an opponent could break it in time to put together a half decent counter. This may well be a combo you've utilised in the past, but I have more ideas of the sort so I'll come back to it in the later stages of this training ^^
     
         
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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Well, the lightning damages the mineral content of the perfume, so, if you use it like that, it wouldn't matter which special effect the perfume has, as it will be blocked. Then again, running a current through a perfume will not only shock the opponent, but could also ignite it, so your opponent would be paralyzed AND burnt (and alcohol burns are quite damaging).

    Other than that, you pretty much got the perfume down perfectly. Now, let me move one to what makes up a Perfume, or rather, a Perfume technique.

    (BTW, I was just reading the wiki page for Perfume, and I must say, there's so much I could have used... Oh well)

    Back to topic:

    So, we have the Body, the Scent and the Illusion.

    The Body of the perfume consists on the liquid/vaporized based of the technique. It holds everything pertaining to the perfume and is responsible for the Scent and, consequently, the Illusion. It is usually made of Alcohol, but it can have different properties. When making a technique, we have to describe the body, just as well as we have to describe the rest.

    The Scent of the perfume is the gaseous state of the perfume, which emanates from the Body. It is linked a different set of characteristics, which generally stem from the Body's characteristics. It brings a fragrance which you can choose when creating or, in case of general techniques, you can choose in the time of usage. In case of the element, it is the scent that carries the genjutsu, as chakra is dispersed in the air just the same as the gaseous molecules of the Perfume. Being a Perfume user, your chakra will carry a smell (which can be null), so the chakra itself is a Perfume, in essence. The genjutsu is cast by the form of scent, and, as your opponent breathes it in, it takes hold of his brain and latches on to it, producing the Illusion. Not all perfume techniques require/cast an illusion and not all illusions are genjutsu based.
    When describing the scent, you must describe it's effects as well, be it Toxic, Pheromon-based, Genjutsu, etc

    The Illusion is the non-physical effect of the perfume, and only applies when the technique carries a genjutsu. It is a different category because it separates itself from the physical aspects of the perfume. A technique could be killing your opponent through toxins, but still have an illusion of butterflies and flowers. Just like describing a genjutsu normally, you need to describe what happens in reality and in the illusion, and that is essentially what you do in this category, after writing the other two.


    More for aesthetics than anything else, all techniques were made theatrical and feminine. I do like something efficient and deadly, and simple to use. But with perfume it's like playing with dolls, it's just this one time when I get to just do what I want and enjoy being a woman. So, instead of creating a stream of perfume, it creates an aggregation of petals that acts as a stream. Instead of creating puddles, I create a patch of liquid flowers, etc etc. Likewise, when I name a specific technique, I make it beautiful or based on a goddess, or when I make a more general technique, I make it French, because it's the language of love xD
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Understood. and I did notice the french theme, very eloquent. ^_^
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Well then, let's start analyzing, I guess. Describe me the first technique, Grand-Plié, and, with it, analyze the general properties of the Main release default Perfume
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    (Meromeroton: Igami Niza ) Perfume Release: Grande-Plié
    Rank: B
    Type: Attack
    Range: Short-Mid
    Chakra Cost: 20
    Damage Points:40
    Description: Allows the user to materialize a large quantity of Main Release perfume and direct it to the opponent. After the user directs the perfume, the user is able to change the direction once, with one handseal. The liquid has the appearance of a swarm of rose petals, even though it's a concise mass of liquid.
    *Changing directions counts towards the 3 jutsus per turn limit*


    Well, the tech itself allows the user to create a large amount of perfume in the air, the default setting for this perfume is that it travel directly toward the opponent. The user can however change the direction of the perfume by performing a single handseal once the perfume has begun on it's journey. As you mentioned in an earlier post, the form it takes being the petals allows it to appear as a stream much like fire or water techniques, it also gives the perfume the appearance of having a physical substance, whereas it has none. The main release perfumes primary objective is to carry the users scent around the battlefield. The danger which this possesses to the opponent stems from it being highly flammable, this allows it to be planted in order to power up any follow up techniques.

    Another advantage of the main release perfume comes against Inuzuka or other ninja known to use there sense of smell to hunt. The user can severely confuse Ninja or animals with this ability by planting there scent around the area through the use of main release perfume. As well as this by strengthening the users scent one can cause a physical attraction between the opponent and themselves, lulling them into a false sense of security.
    Main release perfume also has a high level of toxicity, becoming damaging to any natural and organic materials that it comes in contact with.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Well, the tech itself allows the user to create a large amount of perfume in the air, the default setting for this perfume is that it travel directly toward the opponent. The user can however change the direction of the perfume by performing a single handseal once the perfume has begun on it's journey. As you mentioned in an earlier post, the form it takes being the petals allows it to appear as a stream much like fire or water techniques, it also gives the perfume the appearance of having a physical substance, whereas it has none. The main release perfumes primary objective is to carry the users scent around the battlefield. The danger which this possesses to the opponent stems from it being highly flammable, this allows it to be planted in order to power up any follow up techniques.

    Another advantage of the main release perfume comes against Inuzuka or other ninja known to use there sense of smell to hunt. The user can severely confuse Ninja or animals with this ability by planting there scent around the area through the use of main release perfume. As well as this by strengthening the users scent one can cause a physical attraction between the opponent and themselves, lulling them into a false sense of security.
    Main release perfume also has a high level of toxicity, becoming damaging to any natural and organic materials that it comes in contact with.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird. View Post
    (Meromeroton: Igami Niza ) Perfume Release: Grande-Plié
    Rank: B
    Type: Attack
    Range: Short-Mid
    Chakra Cost: 20
    Damage Points:40
    Description: Allows the user to materialize a large quantity of Main Release perfume and direct it to the opponent. After the user directs the perfume, the user is able to change the direction once, with one handseal. The liquid has the appearance of a swarm of rose petals, even though it's a concise mass of liquid.
    *Changing directions counts towards the 3 jutsus per turn limit*


    Well, the tech itself allows the user to create a large amount of perfume in the air, the default setting for this perfume is that it travel directly toward the opponent. The user can however change the direction of the perfume by performing a single handseal once the perfume has begun on it's journey. As you mentioned in an earlier post, the form it takes being the petals allows it to appear as a stream much like fire or water techniques, it also gives the perfume the appearance of having a physical substance, whereas it has none. The main release perfumes primary objective is to carry the users scent around the battlefield. The danger which this possesses to the opponent stems from it being highly flammable, this allows it to be planted in order to power up any follow up techniques.

    Another advantage of the main release perfume comes against Inuzuka or other ninja known to use there sense of smell to hunt. The user can severely confuse Ninja or animals with this ability by planting there scent around the area through the use of main release perfume. As well as this by strengthening the users scent one can cause a physical attraction between the opponent and themselves, lulling them into a false sense of security.
    Main release perfume also has a high level of toxicity, becoming damaging to any natural and organic materials that it comes in contact with.
    Correct. One thing though, it does have physical substance. You create a large liquid perfume which emanates the scent. Once you send it towards someone, it falls to the ground as a small lake of perfume on the ground, which can be manipulated later. The properties of this perfume is considered the default properties of the element. Whenever the effects are not described, or refer to the effects as main release perfume, it means this effects. Questions?
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Ah okay I'm following now. Sorry that was my fault. When I think of perfume I instantly think of the perfume after it's been sprayed from the bottle and is in the air, this perfume has no real physical substance as it is split into tiny molecules and appears more as a gaseous state than a solid liquid.

    the default properties you just spoke of, is the dropping to the ground to form a source for later attacks included in this?

    If so, can I assume that no perfume technique ever just evaporates into the air. That once completed any main release perfume can be used again at a later time. Also, once the perfume source is formed does it retain it's scent indefinitely, or will the scent dissipate once the tech is actually over? (If it dissipates I assume that it can be bought back through some sort of chakra insertion when you next use it)

    Quick question while it's on my brain if you don't mind. Though perfume doesn't freeze easily, if I were to freeze it the Ice would contain the scent correct? But if I then melted the ice, would the scent return at full strength? And thus retain it's original effects?
     
         
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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird. View Post
    Ah okay I'm following now. Sorry that was my fault. When I think of perfume I instantly think of the perfume after it's been sprayed from the bottle and is in the air, this perfume has no real physical substance as it is split into tiny molecules and appears more as a gaseous state than a solid liquid.

    the default properties you just spoke of, is the dropping to the ground to form a source for later attacks included in this?

    If so, can I assume that no perfume technique ever just evaporates into the air. That once completed any main release perfume can be used again at a later time. Also, once the perfume source is formed does it retain it's scent indefinitely, or will the scent dissipate once the tech is actually over? (If it dissipates I assume that it can be bought back through some sort of chakra insertion when you next use it)

    Quick question while it's on my brain if you don't mind. Though perfume doesn't freeze easily, if I were to freeze it the Ice would contain the scent correct? But if I then melted the ice, would the scent return at full strength? And thus retain it's original effects?
    A perfume is a very volatile substance, and that is what produces the smell, but it doesn't happen instantaneously. Especially with such a great source as the one created with this technique, it can continuously degrade into gaseous molecules indefinitely after it's first usage. And since it's a liquid, it works or behaves like a Suiton technique, except it's alcohol and not water and it's volatile and flammable.

    No, the default properties are the ones you described: Pheromones/Scent that induce a certain sexual attraction (Up to B rank Animals, I believe? Look for that and write it here), carries the scent of the user, throwing off scent based sensors (And that is why a perfume is personal, no two perfumes from different users are the same, even if they use the same technique), it's flammable and it's highly toxic if ingested.

    As for the freeze, yes. Once it's solid, it breaks the smell and prevents it's effects, but once it thaws, the scent returns.

    Questions?
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    No questions, thanks for clearing that up.

    It's C-rank and below animals ^^
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird. View Post
    No questions, thanks for clearing that up.

    It's C-rank and below animals ^^
    Ah good, so all generic animals are covered and you're protected against them It's nice to forget how awesome I am and then remember again xD

    Now, analyze Embellir
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    , and it's those kind of comments that make you awesome xD

    (Meromeroton: Migoto ) Perfume Release: Embellir
    Rank: B
    Type: Supplementary
    Range: N/A
    Chakra Cost: 20 (+5)
    Damage Points: N/a
    Description: Activating this in battle will require the user to spend 20 chakra, counting towards the jutsu count. The user is then able to preform any Water element jutsu using the main release perfume with an added +5 chakra cost. This does not add to the damage of the water jutsu. This technique works by expelling perfume in its vaporized form which will mix with the water and transfer it's properties to it, as such, when a water jutsu is used short range (spat, released from one's hands, etc), it comes out infused with the Main Release perfume. Embed in this skill is the ability to use Water chakra to manipulate a standing source of liquid perfume, as it is basically water heavily infused with scented minerals and chakra, thus allowing jutsu that require a water source to be used with perfume. The opponent is unable to do the same, as the perfume is infused with the user's personal chakra, likewise, the user is not able to manipulate other Perfume User's techniques, as each perfume is personal.
    *The ability to convert Water Jutsus to Perfume can only be used once per turn and requires the user to wait 2 turns in order to use it again*


    Okay, so this technique is really a continuation from the previous technique, as you said with Grand Plie once it is directed to it's required position it drops and leaves a source of perfume on the ground. Embellir then allows that perfume to be used as a source for water jutsu which require a source (or not). Not only this but as the jutsu is created from perfume it will hold all of Main Release perfumes trait and abilities inside it.
    It can also be used by filling the air with perfume in it's vaporized state, then by using a water jutsu the user is able to fuse the two together, again giving the water jutsu perfumes abilities.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Yes, so, two parts for this technique. The first is, whenever you utilize a Water technique (spat from the mouth, used from the body, etc), by adding the said chakra, you can turn the technique into perfume. So no need to create many techniques for Perfume, you can use simple Water techniques.

    The second part is the other way around, sort of. From any perfume source in the field, being it main release or any other perfume, after they are created, they can be re-manipulated by using Water Techniques, as long as the Water techniques require a water source.

    But to do either, you must first activate the jutsu, costing 20 chakra. It stays on indefinitely and the usage of Water Jutsus to manipulate Perfume Sources isn't restricted (except the rule about personal perfumes, as I explained earlier).

    Btw, the (+5) chakra cost on the template is not how much you spend per turn to keep the technique active, is merely what you spend to turn a water jutsu into a perfume jutsu. If you choose to not turn a water jutsu into perfume, you don't spend anything. If you choose not using a water jutsu at all, you don't spend anything.
    Questions?
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Only one, the reason this is possible is because perfume has a constant supply of chakra correct? It states in the technique that the opponent cannot use the perfume because it is instilled with the users own personal chakra. So by this logic, if I used the perfume as a source to use a water jutsu which summoned a lot of water and then I allowed the water to cover the ground all around me. This water would have a constant stream of chakra running through it from my perfume. Could I by this logic, prevent dojutsu users from tracking me underground with the method mentioned above. Or even above ground given I cover myself from view with perfume infused water.

    Now I ask this because as I see the sharingan working all chakra appears as blue, so if you have chakra covering the whole ground, the ground then becomes blue to the sharingan user, because of the blue wall on the ground the sharingan user shouldn't be able to see the user underground through it.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Songbird. View Post
    Only one, the reason this is possible is because perfume has a constant supply of chakra correct? It states in the technique that the opponent cannot use the perfume because it is instilled with the users own personal chakra. So by this logic, if I used the perfume as a source to use a water jutsu which summoned a lot of water and then I allowed the water to cover the ground all around me. This water would have a constant stream of chakra running through it from my perfume. Could I by this logic, prevent dojutsu users from tracking me underground with the method mentioned above. Or even above ground given I cover myself from view with perfume infused water.

    Now I ask this because as I see the sharingan working all chakra appears as blue, so if you have chakra covering the whole ground, the ground then becomes blue to the sharingan user, because of the blue wall on the ground the sharingan user shouldn't be able to see the user underground through it.
    Well, it is not because a constant input of chakra from the user, but because the element doesn't become passive. Normal elemental manipulation has you charge chakra through an elemental feature and, once it serves it's purpose, it becomes stagnant and chakra-less. With Perfume your chakra has a volatile nature and so it degrades at a constant rythim. As long as there's even a drop of original perfume source, the effects continue (Except if stated otherwise)

    Again, there are a few types of water manipulation. Those that you create from your body (Spat, punched, shot, etc) are the ones that are affected by the First Ability of Embellir. Those that require a water source, which you solely manipulate and bend, not create or materialize, are the ones affected by the Second Ability of Embellir. From your description, you made it seem that you wanted to use a third method, the one where you're able to summon water from the moisture of the air, or materialize it out of a random place. Those do not figure in Embellir.

    As for the Sensory Disruption, indeed. If you cover the ground with perfume, your opponents won't be able to sense chakra through it, as it is overridden. Perfume serves to confuse just as much as it serves to allure, your opponents feel what you want them to feel.
     
         

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    Re: Lili makes me smell good...

    Okay then, I'm good to go.
     
         

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    Okay then, I take it that you have mastered genjutsu?
     
         

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