Re: Sakura Haruno's possible character development.

**~Sovereign~** · 11-10-2012, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Chatte

She was told by Kakashi to stay on the back and protect Tazuna and she did it the best she could. Funny enough, Kakashi put her to guard him for few days until Naruto and Sasuke will get through with their chakra control training.

Yeah, K11 used to be so much fun in part 1. Like you said, there was something unique about every single one of them that made you stick to show. And from my point of view, every single one of them was enjoyable in their own way.
I do like the characters now but I don't have the same enjoyment because I know it's going to be a Naruto who will save the day or a Sasuke who will kill someone.
And this is getting already boring.

we're off topic now but ill say this... your right its like kishimoto only has naruto and sasuke killing people.....shikamaru is capable of killing someone on his own, and choji is close (with his butterfly mode)...everyone else in k12 is fodder now....neji use to be the sh*t ....but eversince naruto beat him, he's drop insanely.....shino is undefeated and has amazing talent.....hinata has improved....ino is the same but has MUCH better teamwork...ten ten had her moment with fan (kinkaku and ginkaku's tools)....rock lee is still highly capable of being strong with his gates...kiba has gotten stronger and a better sensor....then there is sakura, she needs a developement because she is tghe only one on team 7 without any upgrades....

kishi changed the entire story after sasuke left the village and part 2 started....part 2 is OK but nowhere near as interesting as part 1

**shyarkugan** · 11-10-2012, 12:28 AM

that would be cool. I hope Sakura gets the yin seal during the story, and shows off her genjutsu talent. It always annoys me that we keep hearing how good she but never get to see it.

**Chatte** · 11-10-2012, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by SakuXNaru

we're off topic now but ill say this... your right its like kishimoto only has naruto and sasuke killing people.....shikamaru is capable of killing someone on his own, and choji is close (with his butterfly mode)...everyone else in k12 is fodder now....neji use to be the sh*t ....but eversince naruto beat him, he's drop insanely.....shino is undefeated and has amazing talent.....hinata has improved....ino is the same but has MUCH better teamwork...ten ten had her moment with fan (kinkaku and ginkaku's tools)....rock lee is still highly capable of being strong with his gates...kiba has gotten stronger and a better sensor....then there is sakura, she needs a developement because she is tghe only one on team 7 without any upgrades....

kishi changed the entire story after sasuke left the village and part 2 started....part 2 is OK but nowhere near as interesting as part 1

Shikamaru was able to take down an Akatsuki by his own for God's sake, he is truly something.
Choji I find pretty OP now since she was a bit on par with Gedo Mazo, heh.

Neji God, I can imagine so much things that can be done with him, how he can be improved, unfortunately, he gets to stay in the back, as well.
I liked the fact that he lost because thanks to that he changed his "fate" and had another view on life, however, he was among the favorites of the part one who got put in the back in part 2.
Shino is badass with his bugs, imagine, bugs that consume chakra. What could you wish for more? He can get also a power-up.
Hinata improved as well and I would've liked to see more on those Twin Lion Fist technique.
Ino is a great asset to a team, she was there for a team from the very beginning, plus she can be a great tracker as well.
TenTen, God, I was so happy when she got the fan!
Kiba, indeed, plus I would've liked to see more of the Double Headed Wolf technique. It was sooo bad-ass!
Rock Lee was great every since part 1, all he needs it's a bit of screen-time.
Sakura needs big development as well considering that Kishi put her in the most over-powered team yet she left her behind. -_-

After part 1, everything seemed rushed.
I liked the beginning of the Shippuden, actually I liked it until Sasuke's battle with Itachi when we saw some Konoha 11 having some quality time, afterwards it began this whole madness with over-powered characters.

Originally Posted by shyarkugan

that would be cool. I hope Sakura gets the yin seal during the story, and shows off her genjutsu talent. It always annoys me that we keep hearing how good she but never get to see it.

True. Kishi emphasis so great potential with her yet he never actually got to show us that potential.

**thegame** · 11-10-2012, 01:13 AM

Look, I think you did a good job piecing this together, but honestly... That she recognizes Mokuton means absolutely nothing. Hashirama was a legend, the founding father of Konoha. That Naruto doesn't think about it is, well, the obvious reason.. Hashirama, the founding father, only shinobi able to use mokuton (except Yamato, but he was unknown at the time due to ANBU association).

Any shinobi within Konoha knows him and knows his mokuton. Even Naruto, but he just never piece 1 and 1 together on that part. And that 2nd mizukage hint made me laugh, sorry it's no offense, but seeing that as a hint, I must give you some credit though, but I am sure you can find 1000 hints for anyting throughout the manga then..

Also " In the Team 7 which consisted in Yamato and Sai, Sakura was always associated with Yamato." Yeah she was the medical shinobi, so it was important to protect her, thus she worked with the captain. Besides there is another reason for this. Naruto is close range, sakura is close range. Sai is long range, Yamato is long range. This makes only 2 good pair-wise match-ups in the team. And obviously Yamato couldn't let Sai have responsibility for covering Sakura, we saw he even had suspicion on Sai, and when he wanted Sai to help Sakura, well we all remember..

All in all, good job, it was nice to read, and despite being far fetched some of it could make sense, but I don't really find much of it as solid proof, and a lot of the so-called signs are pretty far fetched.

**Yuffosan** · 11-10-2012, 01:29 AM

What about Ino?

**~Sovereign~** · 11-10-2012, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Yuffosan

What about Ino?

what about her? she fits in with her team and her style is teamwork

**u wanna die** · 11-10-2012, 02:14 AM

i might agree with u convince me more

**metallica9565** · 11-10-2012, 02:52 AM

as far as I'm concerned the series is drawing to an end. I highly doubt Sakura is going to get any major character developing during the last stretch of this manga/anime

**ANONYMOUS 182** · 11-10-2012, 02:56 AM

good thread with good explanations!!

**CoolFoo** · 11-10-2012, 03:32 AM

You did a great job with this Chatte and I totally agree with you. Anything is possible and there are signs in there that could point to Sakura having abilities like Tsunade or even a genjutsu type one. She was known for having great chakra control and being a good genjutsu user and was acknowledged for it too. We will have to find out whats in store.

**reizon** · 11-10-2012, 04:08 AM

i thnk you should stop posting threads about sakura, cuz people dont give squat about her...

**Unbiased King** · 11-10-2012, 04:17 AM

These are threads I love reading, ones that draw far from obvious conclusions from subtle hints of the manga. I hope you continue to make these threads.

OT: Very well supported argument. I for one would like to see Sakura unfodderize herself.

Unfortunately, I don't see a place for her in the story at the moment, but we'll see what happens.

**★-Punk-** · 11-10-2012, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by metallica9565

as far as I'm concerned the series is drawing to an end. I highly doubt Sakura is going to get any major character developing during the last stretch of this manga/anime

thats what am saying , agree broski

**Cosmic Path** · 11-10-2012, 04:40 AM

I agree with you 100% on this theory of yours and i'm sure that sakura will surpassed tsunade and have medical ninja skills to a different level!

**ForbiddenUzumaki** · 11-10-2012, 04:56 AM

I could write down a huge paragraph of the good parts of this theory but since everyone already mentioned it before, I'll stick with a simple good job!

However, I don't think there's much time left to developed sakura, she will probably play a role with Sasuke but she's no match for the rest. I hope your right but I fear she won't get much attention yet I believe she will play a big role with Naruto & Sasuke. They are the main characters so I doubt Naruto is going to solo him while she ain't there to do anything and it will be a perfect time to show her power. I really don't see her interfering with Obito/Madara or even Oro.

**cptenn94** · 11-10-2012, 05:06 AM

honestly i dislicked part 1 sakura, but that doesnt matter...part 2 is fine she is stronger than many give her credit for and there is to much hate for one character....i think that sakura will get the yin seal(which i think was taught to tsunade by mito(who also has diamond on forehead)) and she will probably become a better medic than tsunade, but i dont think much will be put on her becoming more powerful in fights....kishi has said himself he sucks at developing females, and he hasnt shown he will make sakura much better...that said i do think she will learn some genjutsu(maybe bringer of darkness?) but wont be as good as say kuranei.....i see her as a healer not a attacker(shizune for example).....

sakura identified the wood style because of 2 reasons...one is it might be taught in academy, or 2 she had access to many books and read of hashi wood.....(or tsunade told her stories of the first) simply put she knows about many techniques and that is why she iddentified it

all in all she wont learn slug sage mode, since she has less than kakashi chakra pool, and i think her develope ment will be more of a supprt healer role. i think she will learn some genjutsu, but not sure if bringer of darkness.......

good thread and its a shame that she is hated so much

**uchiha asuku aliyu** · 11-10-2012, 05:07 AM

well the major problem sakura facing is that she is a girl. To be frank sakura is quite strong but notice every other girl in the naruto verse is weak except for the one's with special d.n.a e.g tsunade, hinata, maybe ino, if not all the other girls who are just sakura are failures... Tenten, temari even ino, and again sakura easly trashes every girl of her age.. And lastly why people underestimate sakura is because they've seen how her other team mates (saske. Naruto) changed, so they all feel she's a weakling but see the facts, sasuke has sharingan. Naruto has the nine tails and uzumaki blood, and sakura has nothing, so i'd say even at this stage she has grown..

**Xaviour** · 11-10-2012, 05:11 AM

If only if only

If only there was a slug sage mode...

**Rodukaime Namikaze** · 11-10-2012, 05:30 AM

Thank you for showing me this

Well done and the argument made me rethink what I thought of her lol

**KyuubiHatake** · 11-10-2012, 05:39 AM

Sakura does have alot of potential to really surpass tsunade.
Plus she is one of the most observant characters in the series

**Mr Chuck Norris** · 11-10-2012, 05:42 AM

Never thought of the Yin seal thing. + Rep nice thread.

**nNoma** · 11-10-2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Chatte

Ok, so I promised this thread regarding Sakura's development in the series, ie supassing Tsunade.
I know the majority of you will start bashing towards her calling her all that names. I've heard it before, not impressed.
So note this: every single bashing towards her will be reported! I am not here for your whining personalities, not for hearing your hate.
There is a lot hate in this world, real one, so I don't need some childish hate towards a character. Are we clear?
I am looking for a nice discussion/debate upon these theories I am having.
Before saying that no, Sakura will not get it because Naruto is ending, let's not forget that Kishi said multiple times that he wanted to end the series yet he found himself continuing it.
So until it's not finished, I have the right to think up for some certain possibilities as long as I want.
Hopefully, we are clear.

Sorry if I sounded *****y, my excuses, I've just had it with people with whom you can't have a nice discussion. I am just repaying in the same manner, if you want to take it like that.

Now, let's get down to business.

Given the last events, as we've seen, Tsunade is on her verge of dying. There's a 50/50 chance of survival. We don't know for sure if she dies or lives.

But putting this aside, I have had these ideas before this whole Tsunade events of certain developments Sakura might get.

1. Yin Seal.

Well, as we know, Kishi has drawn Sakura to make a big deal out of her forehead.
From the series's start this was a part of her personality, more exact, one of her biggest problems regarding her insecurities over her looks.

But what made me think it's not just about her forehead as a personality issue was after Tsunade was introduced in the manga, and afterwards, Sakura became her student and we saw the pattern Kishi followed with the 3 characters.

Naruto - Jiraiya: Learned Rasengan from him at the beginning as a prime development, afterwards he learned Sage Mode.

Sasuke - Orochimaru: Curse Seal as a prime development, afterwards learned Kirin with the help of Orochimaru, which, surprisingly or not, enough, looks like a Dragon (according to the manga, snakes evolve into dragons, see Kabuto getting Dragon Sage Mode)

Sakura - Tsunade: Medical ninjutsu and improved taijutsu as a prime development, second yet to see.

When we are first presented to Tsunade we got to see the Yin Seal drawn... where do you think? Exactly, on her forehead!

Later on, Kishi emphasizes once again the "forehead" thing with Tsunade.

As we clearly know, Kishi isn't the man to place signs here and there for nothing.

Putting the jokes aside, this reminds me of a funny picture I've found few days ago.

That was for the laughs.

Now, going on with my theories/possibilities, however you want to call it.

2. Genjutsu (Bringer of the Darkness)

As we know, in the beginning, ironically, Sakura falls under Kakashi's genjutsu in the 2 bell training.

But later on, we learn that she has gotten better at genjutsu, as proven in the Chuunin exams and Kakashi's words.

Of course, now you'll say that she was only shown to disperse it, but in the major fight Sakura had with Sasori, genjutsu would've been totally out of the question.

Now, you might ask yourself why I straightly went to Bringer of the Darkness and not other genjutsu.
Well, as I was re-reading the manga, one thing caught my attention.

In the Team 7 which consisted in Yamato and Sai, Sakura was always associated with Yamato.

And what really really caught my attention was this:

Out of them, Sakura was the only one to recognize the Jutsu and the Mokuton ninjutsu out of her colleagues.
Actually as we've seen, besides Naruto, none of them were associated in some sort of way with Hashirama Senju.
The only one who was, indirectly, is Sakura as we've seen in these scans because we all know who Yamato is.

And also, the most powerful genjutsu technique Hashirama showed was, as we all know, Bringer of the Darkness.

So if we put all these pieces together into a puzzle, it would lead to the fact that Sakura would get to learn it, taking into consideration that she is associated to Hashirama not only via Yamato, also via Tsunade who is his granddaughter and was known to know everything about her grandfather.

So this would come fairly logic into Sakura's development.

Another interesting thing I've noticed is this.
In the War, now, when we are introduced to Nidaime Mizukage there's a hint.

As we see, he says that his element is Yin (I wonder who possesses the same seal ) element and that this means he is a genjutsu user.

So once again, if we put these into a puzzle, we can see it quite clear. The only missing puzzle here is Kishimoto.

You might say that no, this is not possible but let us not forget about the fact that her master is the Hokage so, actually, Sakura has access to all these documents that contain jutsus and stuff like that.
We caught a glimpse with Sakura having access to those things in the war, where she was reading a report made by Yamato. We all know that these reports are for the Hokage.

And as we clearly see here, Sakura has access to it.

Now, I know there will be some of you that will say this won't happen, it's not possible but Kishi hinted so many times that old generation is surpassed by the new one, also he has made this clear that might happen with Sakura via Kakashi and Chiyo and these two are strong voices in the Narutoverse.
Kakashi, well, we all know who he is.
And Chiyo, we also know who she is as well and Chiyo is a veteran in her own right that fought Tsunade many times, has wars behind as experience and yet she said Sakura is liable to surpass Tsunade.
So this might come and it wouldn't be something strange to see, I would say that even expected.

The Slug Sage Mode thing, I am not taking it into consideration because I do believe that belongs to Tsunade more than Sakura, but who knows, maybe Kishi throws a surprise. o.O

Anyway, this is kinda it.
Hope you enjoyed the reading!

Great observations, the forehead similarities were something I never paid much attention to before this, but that's fantastic foreshadowing if I've ever seen it. What concerns me about Sakura's development the most is the current arc, and what Kishi's plans for the series are after the war ends.

If the series does continue after the war, what will happen? Will there be time for Sakura to develop as a character throughout the war? Or will it take place after? If the series ends with the war, will her development be mentioned? Will she be shown surpassing Tsunade? Or would it just be implied? These questions can't really be answered right now and it leaves me wondering what the fate of Sakura will be. My hope is that Kishi has a plan for her, because I would hate for Sakura to be left undeveloped unlike how Sasuke and Naruto have been.

If something is going to happen with Sakura, there has to be an event that triggers her development either in this war, or after it. Tsunade's death is just one possibility here, you mentioned her dying as being 50/50 and I agree on that, it's unknown what her state is at this time. But as I've mentioned in posts before Tsunade's death would be in my opinion the best incentive for Sakura to step up and shine as the main heroin. But I'm not going to continue into this further now.

Tsunade has been shown to have a great deal of knowledge on Hashirama's techniques as she can use his regeneration to almost the same level as he could. I'm also pleased you brought up the fact that out of the entire team 7 Sakura was the only one to realize Yamato's jutsu and how it relates to Hashirama. This is proof that Tsunade has been sharing her grandfathers techniques with Sakura.
This can tie right into your theory about bringer of darkness, because it's only logical Tsunade would teach her student who just so happens to be naturally adept with genjutsu this same technique.

Sakura has seen little action thus far, and I think that's why she's so underrated, but not all characters are going to develop the same. Naruto and Sasuke are special cases, they are both gifted shinobi, one has inherited Kurama and is the son of two very strong shinobi. The other is from the Uchiha clan, so of course for Sakura who was not born with either of these things her development will be slower. But I'm hoping there is time for her to develop further and get involved in this war as more than just a medic. Because I think she has great potential and if given the right circumstances she has the ability to surpass Tsunade, just as Naruto and Sasuke have the ability to surpass Jiraiya and Orochimaru.

Good thread, great read.

**Anakin Skywalker** · 11-10-2012, 07:11 AM

first of all good effort :ice:

you are assuming that this series will go on extending another 2 years which we dont know for sure that being said
Now to counter this thread

First:

Yin Seal:

Genjutsu Bringer of darkness:

Edit:
frankly i'm a bit annoyed with everyone in this thread saying "sakura will surely surpass Tsunade" when clearly there isn't enough proof yet

Tsunade healed the entire konoha village, broke madara's susanoo with pure strength and summoned Katsuyu when she was split in half

I do not see how sakura will do something more epic than that and surpass tsunade

**Kisa** · 11-10-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Gray Uchiha

first of all good effort :ice:

you are assuming that this series will go on extending another 2 years which we dont know for sure that being said
Now to counter this thread

First:

Yin Seal:

Genjutsu Bringer of darkness:

Edit:
frankly i'm a bit annoyed with everyone in this thread saying "sakura will surely surpass Tsunade" when clearly there isn't enough proof yet

Tsunade healed the entire konoha village, broke madara's susanoo with pure strength and summoned Kayatsu when she was split in half

I do not see how sakura will do something more epic than that and surpass tsunade

Deep Thoughts by Grey Uchiha

**Braveknight** · 11-10-2012, 07:25 AM

Your just predicting not proving therefore your thread is invalid

About the forehead no comment but it's all just pridicting a low possibility since as far as I know it's a senju jutsu

About gengetsu she only dispelled one low levels genjutsu in all the manga what kakashi said was to make her happy

Won't point out all the flaw in your fan based thread.

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