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    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    wait, am pretty sure Basketball is the most popular sport in USA, looking at how it spread across the world and gain popularity compared to American Football,
    No football is, it's known as "Americas sport". Also statistics say it is the most popular in America. I believe baseball was second. In the old days, Baseball was the most popular.


    you should stop looking from your own point of view for this matter, there's a hundred thousand of Soccer fans in USA or millions of them, let me tell something useful

    In 1994, the World Cup came to America.Played out during a four-week period under scorching summer temperatures, the 1994 World Cup brought the global game to the biggest and most demanding sports market in the world for the first time in its illustrious history: the United States.


    Would the World Cup, the biggest sporting event on the planet, be a success in the U.S.? Many had their doubts. The North American Soccer League went under in 1984 and with no major domestic league to replace it, soccer was relegated to the periphery of the American sporting conscience


    A World Cup on American soil, the soccer-hating critics said, would be a dismal failure with the roster of international stars, virtually unknown to the U.S. audience, destined to play before half-empty stadiums.

    How wrong they were.

    The 1994 tournament shattered World Cup records for total attendance (3,587,538 spectators) and average attendance per game (68,991) - Italy 1990 (2,517,348 total) and Brazil 1950 (60,773 average) were the previous record-holders. and the records still belong to the world cup in America at 1994..........


    That's pretty interesting, actually. However, I'm not surprised. It is America after all, one of the richest, if not the richest country (of that time) holds the record for most spectators at a world cup. I believe money is a big factor in those numbers, 3 million out of 300 million attended.
    @ Bold - Look at the hype in that sentence, a lot of people wanted to be part of the first World Cup in America...that is history. I hear there is a bid for the World Cup to be in the US in 2018, what exactly does it mean by bid?


    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    they were down the whole game, 1-0 and after that their captain get a red card then the score sheet turn 2-0, and they made it 2-2 with buzzer beater goal in the last minute, thus make them qualify for 3-2 aggregate,

    did you really think its easy to score a goal in professional soccer match ? especially when they played away games and played against the best team in the world, scoring goal is not that easy compared to scoring touchdown in American football
    I know how hard it is to score a goal, that is why I said it is rarely done. But that is also a reason why I find watching it boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    the fact that it was loved all over the globe, the fact that they have international tournament in every continent,
    the fact that they have professional league/Amateur/youth competition almost in every country, the fact that they have their OWN world cup tournament that involved almost all countries in the process,

    as far as i know they only played American Football in US,Canada and Japan, the Japanese manga artist actually tried to popularized American football in Asia by making Manga about American Football (like how Slam Dunk(Manga)help popularized Basketball in Asia) but he failed thought his manga is awesome it don't have the same effect lie Slam Dunk.
    LOL all your reasons have to do with its popularity. If your going to explain why Soccer is better then Football, state reasons that have to do with the sport itself, (i.e. rules, how it is played, intensity, rivalry, excitement, etc.) not because it is played in many different countries. If we were arguing which is the most popular sport, then those facts you have mentioned would be credible.

    It's like if we were debating who is the stronger character, and your using the characters popularity as a reason to who is stronger.

    @ Bold - That sounds like a terrible idea, what excitement is there in reading about a fictional sport series that pertains to nothing. Showing the games on TV, would be a much better alternative to popularizing it in other countries.


    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    ah 2 or 3 years ago is where Ronaldo and Messi start to compete each other according to the media..... no wonder you don't find it amusing because Soccer at that time and nowadays is sucks compared to 90's and early 2000, there is a declination in every famous team. the biggest reason is the crisis that storm the Europe and the arrival of sugar daddy(Arab Investor)whose pouring money endlessly to their team and hurt the other team financially and tactically by taking their best players.......
    @ Bold- LOLLL. So can you blame me?

    If that is the case, then the football league (Or whatever you call it) should put a salary cap on teams like the NFL does. The salary cap puts a maximum amount of money able to be spent for all teams to eliminate the richest teams from signing all of the best players. That way, it makes everything fair and more even.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

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    That's pretty interesting, actually. However, I'm not surprised. It is America after all, one of the richest, if not the richest country (of that time) holds the record for most spectators at a world cup. I believe money is a big factor in those numbers, 3 million out of 300 million attended.
    @ Bold - Look at the hype in that sentence, a lot of people wanted to be part of the first World Cup in America...that is history. I hear there is a bid for the World Cup to be in the US in 2018, what exactly does it mean by bid?
    that mean the US nominate their country to become the host for World cup in 2018 and the representative should give a presentation about their facilities such as Stadium/Training Pitch,Transportation, Ticketing system, and the team accommodation, but unfortunately they lose against Russia in the final election.........


    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    LOL all your reasons have to do with its popularity. If your going to explain why Soccer is better then Football, state reasons that have to do with the sport itself, (i.e. rules, how it is played, intensity, rivalry, excitement, etc.) not because it is played in many different countries. If we were arguing which is the most popular sport, then those facts you have mentioned would be credible.

    It's like if we were debating who is the stronger character, and your using the characters popularity as a reason to who is stronger.
    there is no need to argue about which one is more popular cause its kinda obvious, if i were to explain all that, then it will take forever cause even from the statement above about the sport is played in almost every country explain that Soccer Intensity and excitement is beyond normal, and don't even talk about rivalry because in Soccer people can die because of that LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    @ Bold - That sounds like a terrible idea, what excitement is there in reading about a fictional sport series that pertains to nothing. Showing the games on TV, would be a much better alternative to popularizing it in other countries.
    well it works for Basket Ball and help the sport become the 2nd most Popular sport in the world, so it worth to give it a try, and the manga is not that bad i actually like it and the sales is also very high for unusual sport in Asia, the manga name Eyeshield 21 you should give it a try if you loved American Football so much, the main character played as running back



    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    @ Bold- LOLLL. So can you blame me?

    If that is the case, then the football league (Or whatever you call it) should put a salary cap on teams like the NFL does. The salary cap puts a maximum amount of money able to be spent for all teams to eliminate the richest teams from signing all of the best players. That way, it makes everything fair and more even.
    i don't blame you, you just watched Soccer in the wrong time, the best of soccer is actually exist in 90's and early 2000, when player like Zidane and Ronaldo (not Cristiano) still played along with other top class footballer,
    especially this Zidane dude, when he's on the pitch he can change the flow of the game and make everyone look good/played good,

    they did try to do that but it was put on hold till now cause Arabs got the power LOL
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    there is no need to argue about which one is more popular cause its kinda obvious, if i were to explain all that, then it will take forever cause even from the statement above about the sport is played in almost every country explain that Soccer Intensity and excitement is beyond normal, and don't even talk about rivalry because in Soccer people can die because of that LOL
    Exactly my point. Everything you brought up was popularity base, I can't argue against that because the fact is soccer is more popular. And that is why I didn't want to argue which one was the better sport as it would be an endless debate of which none of us would admit the other being better. It goes back to why I say its opinion based.

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    i don't blame you, you just watched Soccer in the wrong time, the best of soccer is actually exist in 90's and early 2000, when player like Zidane and Ronaldo (not Cristiano) still played along with other top class footballer,
    especially this Zidane dude, when he's on the pitch he can change the flow of the game and make everyone look good/played good,

    they did try to do that but it was put on hold till now cause Arabs got the power LOL
    How do a group of people have the power to overrule the rules of a sport? To me that sounds like a major issue in the football league. To be honest, I am glad the NFL is only in the US, so we don't have to deal with shit like that.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    LOL, I can't believe you two are still going back and forth.

    I think we can all agree that Football(soccer) is the most popular sport in the world. However, neither is the "better" sport because that is completely opinion based.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    oh... I thought you guys were talking about American football :/ never mind
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Yamato View Post
    LOL, I can't believe you two are still going back and forth.

    I think we can all agree that Football(soccer) is the most popular sport in the world. However, neither is the "better" sport because that is completely opinion based.
    That is what I've been saying the whole time.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    insignificant ? spare me the BS, everyone goes for the touchdown, they could care less about the field goal,
    all sport involved FOOT like swimming,tennis and many more but they don't call it football, what i mean don't involved is they don't use that as the main thing in the sport, they use their hands to pass and to carry the ball they don't dribble the ball, well of course they can't dribble it cause it ain't ball,

    then why would you call it soccer when its originally called FOOTBALL ?, saying your hand egg is football while calling the real FOOTBALL soccer is the real ignorance.....



    blame the dude who come to this thread and post "football? ?? soccer?"w
    doesn't give you an excuse to hate on Football... I could rant all day about how I dislike soccer and its fans but I don't out respect for the rest of the world
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

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    oh... I thought you guys were talking about American football :/ never mind
    LOL they are. That and Association football (soccer).

    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    That is what I've been saying the whole time.
    I know ^_^ I've even said it in a couple of posts. I just thought I'd attempt an explination again to see if it sinks in.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    Exactly my point. Everything you brought up was popularity base, I can't argue against that because the fact is soccer is more popular. And that is why I didn't want to argue which one was the better sport as it would be an endless debate of which none of us would admit the other being better. It goes back to why I say its opinion based.
    so this is where the problem huh ? am not trying to make you admit that Soccer is better am just trying to tell you that why i think Soccer is better, in the 1st place i can't change your mind with a mere post in a forum like this, but if we actually know each other and life in the same place then i can change your mind LOL


    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    How do a group of people have the power to overrule the rules of a sport? To me that sounds like a major issue in the football league. To be honest, I am glad the NFL is only in the US, so we don't have to deal with shit like that.
    they have the money so they are in control, they don't actually overrule the sport rules they just can make a drastic change,like make a noob/trash team into a Champions with world class players and coach,

    well maybe because they don't know a thing about NFL just hope that they never learn about how profitable NFL could be.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Stryker- View Post
    doesn't give you an excuse to hate on Football... I could rant all day about how I dislike soccer and its fans but I don't out respect for the rest of the world
    i suppose you only read the synopsis of the book and decide to make a rant,
     
         

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