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    EMS sasuke vs Minato

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Alive Minato can take out Full powered Sasuke

    Three Shadow Clones are needed
     
         

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    minato takes it...!
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Sasuke wins this since Minato has nothing to hurt Sasuke with.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    Alive Minato can take out Full powered Sasuke

    Three Shadow Clones are needed
    Complete bullshit. With PS Sasuke shits on Living Minato.

    OT: With PS and legged Susanoo restricted it would get pretty close. However he can still has EMS which means that he can just spam Susanoo and Enton, without having to worry about any negative effects, so I think he takes it with high diff.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    I can't see Sasuke's attacks hitting Minato, If Minato can teleport Susanoo then Minato takes this otherwise it'll depend on who can outlast who.


    Quote Originally Posted by illidanson View Post
    Complete bullshit. With PS Sasuke shits on Living Minato.
    Are we overlooking the fact that Alive Minato can take on a Full powered Kyuubi which laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo..?

    If there is no village or his family to save ,Minato is more than capable of taking on Kyuubi along with Obito.
     
         
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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Sasuke smokes him.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    I can't see Sasuke's attacks hitting Minato, If Minato can teleport Susanoo then Minato takes this otherwise it'll depend on who can outlast who.




    Are we overlooking the fact that Alive Minato can take on a Full powered Kyuubi which laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo..?

    If there is no village or his family to save ,Minato is more than capable of taking on Kyuubi along with Obito.
    Since when does 100% Kyuubi laugh at PS which towers over it?

    V4 Susano'o is equal to the 100% Kyuubi and PS is double the size of V4.If anything Sasuke is laughing at the fox.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Minato wins.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Jamison View Post
    Since when does 100% Kyuubi laugh at PS which towers over it?

    V4 Susano'o is equal to the 100% Kyuubi and PS is double the size of V4.If anything Sasuke is laughing at the fox.
    Lmao ,Since when does this thread turned in Minato vs Sasuke's PS, Where does in my post I said that Kyuubi laughs at Sasuke's PS in the first place.?

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    Sasuke's Susanoo that covered Naruto's Kyuubi is super inferior to Madara's PS and same goes Full Kyuubi which is alot bigger than Naruto's half assed Kyuubi ,Stop using ur fan fic's here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Jamison View Post

    V4 Susano'o is equal to the 100% Kyuubi and PS is double the size of V4.If anything Sasuke is laughing at the fox.
    No PS is not that bigger than V4

    Take a look at this, V4 is only abit smaller than Mokujin.


    Here PS is only abit bigger than Mokuji.


    Madara's PS is bigger than 100% Kyuubi but not as much as u think.
     
         
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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    I can't see Sasuke's attacks hitting Minato, If Minato can teleport Susanoo then Minato takes this otherwise it'll depend on who can outlast who.




    Are we overlooking the fact that Alive Minato can take on a Full powered Kyuubi which laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo..?

    If there is no village or his family to save ,Minato is more than capable of taking on Kyuubi along with Obito.
    Doesn't change the fact that mina to cannot even hurt Sasuke's v1 Susano, let alone v3+. Sasuke can engulf v1 with enton, further preventing attack attempts from Minato. Whereas Sasuke has several ways to hit Minato even with the usage of FTG.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that mina to cannot even hurt Sasuke's v1 Susano, let alone v3+. Sasuke can engulf v1 with enton, further preventing attack attempts from Minato. Whereas Sasuke has several ways to hit Minato even with the usage of FTG.
    Name an attack that can hit Minato.

    How long do u think Sasuke can keep Susanoo.?
     
         
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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Minato has nothing to put down Sasuke's Susanoo and Sasuke can outlast him.

    Sasuke mid-high diff.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Touken View Post
    Minato has nothing to put down Sasuke's Susanoo and Sasuke can outlast him.

    Sasuke mid-high diff.
    Based on what factor ur saying that he can outlast.?

    I know that Sasuke's chakra >> Minato's but Sasuke need to use Susanoo & Amaterasu which takes shit load of chakra ,where as only thing Minato needs to do to counter Sasuke is to use FTG and Shunshin ,no need to mention Minato has shown the best feats with his limited amount of chakra & yet ur saying that Sasuke can outlast him while using high level tech's like Susanoo and Amaterasu..?
     
         
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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Based on what factor ue saying that he can do that.?

    Sasuke need to use Susanoo & Amaterasu which takes shit load of chakra ,where as only thing Minato needs to do to counter Sasuke is to use FTG and Shunshin ,no need to mention Minato has shown the best feats with his limited amount of chakra & yet ur saying that Sasuke can outlast him while using high level tech's like Susanoo and Amaterasu..?
    Susanoo & Enton/Amaterasu don't affect Sasuke one bit now that he has EMS. He's been spamming those techs and he's not shown one sign of fatigue.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Touken View Post
    Susanoo & Enton/Amaterasu don't affect Sasuke one bit now that he has EMS. He's been spamming those techs and he's not shown one sign of fatigue.
    Iam not denying it but Sasuke had more than Enough time to recover his chakra after his battle with Kabuto.

    Now in war arc Sasuke's feats are

    Used Susanoo to beat Juubi clones
    Summoned Aoda
    Amaterasu on Juubi
    Arrow to hit Obito (failed)
    Fodder Saunoo to save Naruto
    Amaterasu on Obito
    Amaterasu to combine it with FRS

    Once again rest for some time untill God trees attack

    They had only 15 Min time to stop God tree and they defeated him even B4 that means that Sasuke managed to maintain Susanoo for less than (though bigger than normal one) 15 min and is weak .

    Based on this we can't say that Sasuke can keep it for days.
    we don't know how he can keep Susanoo active without any rest.

    He need to keep it without deactivating it against Minato while spamming Amaterasu ,it isn't an easy feat.

    I don't think he can outlast Minato with all those OP jutsu's
     
         
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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Well, agree to disagree here. Gotta get back to Breaking Bad.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Touken View Post
    Well, agree to disagree here. Gotta get back to Breaking Bad.
    Ok, fine..
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Fodders who do not understand how FTG works


    Minato sends one shadow clone and that clone touches the Susanoo [doesn't matter if its enton covered because its a clone and Minato has already shat on Enton+FRS]

    As soon as the clone touches Susanoo a chakra link is formed between Minato and the Susanoo and Susanoo user since Susanoo is made up of chakra of the user.

    With FTG its Minato who decides who and what to teleport with him so the Clone is left with three choices

    Choice 1: Teleport away with both Sasuke and his Susanoo
    Choice 2: Teleport away with Susanoo leaving Susake hanging
    Choice 3: Teleport Sasuke out of Susanoo to a location where he wants

    So as I said three clones are needed for base Minato to beat full powered Sasuke well there you go

    1. Clone makes the link between him and Susanoo then he uses Hiraishin swap with another clone [if he wants to lol] or teleports Sasuke where another clone slits Sasuke's thraot with superior speed/reactions/physicality

    2. The third clone is out on the look out, setting up Kunais forming s/t barriers if needed, summoning toads and stuff.

    The original Minato stays back at his office sipping his cuppa
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinash012 View Post
    Lmao ,Since when does this thread turned in Minato vs Sasuke's PS, Where does in my post I said that Kyuubi laughs at Sasuke's PS in the first place.?
    a Full powered Kyuubi which laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo..?
    Is what you said and i know that PS is restricted i just felt like talking about it since apparently Kuruma laughs at Susano'o.

    Sasuke's Susanoo that covered Naruto's Kyuubi is super inferior to Madara's PS and same goes Full Kyuubi which is alot bigger than Naruto's half assed Kyuubi ,Stop using ur fan fic's here.
    So are you implying that Sauske's limit is 50% kurumah size? Sauske had to make his PS smaller to fit the Nine tails avatar why make it so big that it won't stay on the fox? I see no fanficts here so don't label my posts as one.


    No PS is not that bigger than V4
    Use Jinton in order to gauge its size.
    V4 Susano'o ----> Perfect Susano'o

    Since you said not 'that bigger' means that you agree that PS is bigger than V4.Correct?


    Madara's PS is bigger than 100% Kyuubi but not as much as u think.
    I apologias i exaggerated the PS and Kyuubi scale but the fact is the Fox isn't gonna laugh at Sasuke's Susano'o especially when he wields enton.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Sasuke never needed Final Susano'o to beat Minato since he's become proficient with the Eternal. Ribcage Susano'o is enough he shields it with Enton, there's nothing Minato can do to harm him. Sasuke can mold Kagutsuchi in his hand to form a sword which he can spread Enton on all of Minato Kunai's. Genjutsu or Amaterasu would end it for Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Jamison View Post
    So are you implying that Sauske's limit is 50% kurumah size? Sauske had to make his PS smaller to fit the Nine tails avatar why make it so big that it won't stay on the fox? I see no fanficts here so don't label my posts as one.
    I thought we should use the feats that we have seen in manga.
    Sasuke has never shown something bigger than that Susanoo & saying that Sasuke can use something bigger than that is nothing more than a fanfic at this point of manga, Also even if it is bigger than Naruto's half assed Kyuubi we still have no proof to say that it is bigger than 100% Kyuubi.

    Kyuubi laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo even if it is as big as 100% Kyuubi . TBB spam > PS ,even if has Enton coat


    Use Jinton in order to gauge its size.
    V4 Susano'o ----> Perfect Susano'o
    Since you said not 'that bigger' means that you agree that PS is bigger than V4.Correct?
    Can't see ur point here , U can't compare hights by using top and and side views ,also Jinton is disappearing ,this point is invalid.

    Yes,I agree with the point of PS being bigger than V4 but not as 2X bigger

    I apologias i exaggerated the PS and Kyuubi scale but the fact is the Fox isn't gonna laugh at Sasuke's Susano'o especially when he wields enton.
    Even Madara's PS is inferior to TBB's ,Enton can't help Sasuke from TBB spam from 100% Kyuubi.

    Interms of Distruction & Physical strength Kyuubi laughs at the Susanoo that Sasuke has shown.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Sasuke wins this. He has the sharingan, which can decipher chakra. Meaning he will see all the tags that are present, and any thing Minato has tagged. This will give him a great advantage due to the fact that an Amateratsu ring around them, like this

    This will prevent Minato from using FTG as leniently as usual. Since any Kunai that is thrown linearly will be affected, and thus melt and lose its mark. Sasuke can fight Minato with his v1 Susano being covered by Enton for mobility, and defence. Any attempt to mark the v1 Susano would be useless considering it will burn the bunshin before it can touch the actual Susano and mark it. Minato attempting to FTG it will allow him to mark it, but also force him to be caught in the effects of Amateratsu. Moreover, people don't think too far into the process of teleporting the Susano's chakra manifestation to another place. Considering Kage Bunshins will return their chakra once they have been released back to the user, Susano shouldn't be any different. Furthermore, even if Sasuke were to lose he his smallest Susano, v1, he could always simply create a new one considering it doesn't take much chakra. Chidori Nagashi will nullify any attempts of multiple Kage Bunshins attacking simultaneously. Sharingan can take over any Toad Minato summons, and have it be used against Minato. Sasuke's kunai skills are more than enough to stop a FTG kunai coming his way, considering the kunai feats he has demonstrated in the manga, such as

    Or Sasuke can also use his Kusanagi and dramatically increase its range as he did here in the bottom panel [x] as to increase its lethality within the Amateratsu ring.
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

    Minato wins. With the restrictions, Sasuke stays with a 7m tall Susanoo max.

    Susanoo or Amaterasu are no threat for Minato since it can be port away. We've seen sand was capable to enter which means there is no physical contact between Susanoo and the user [1] With the Goshun Mawashi then, it doesn't only port it away, but gives opportunity to Minato to finish him off at the exact same moment [2]. Not even Jubito could react to it despite being the fastest, the greatest sensor, the most reactive in the manga, so let alone Sasuke

    And even if Minato didn't use this move. He has other methods to win this fight since Sasuke can't use the legged or PS. While Minato doesn't possess a fire power capable to destroy Susanoo by himself, something always overlooked is that he does possess boss summons who have shown great DC(capable to change landscape in part1 [1] [2] [3] ) to the point of counter-acting with tailed beast like Shukaku and Kyubi in the category(cuting Shukaku's arm [1] or pin down the Kyubi [1]), 100% Kyubi who was more than 200meters. So all Minato has to do really is to put/leave a marking(kunai) on/near Susanoo(whether himself or a clone) and summon gamabunta on it for the food cart destroyer [1].

    The impact of the attack would crush Sasuke, or at the very least give an opportunity for Minato to take advantage of this an finish him off. There is no other possible outcomes anyway since Sasuke has no way to hit Minato. The time Minato realises his normal moves don't work, he would have to use the summoning jutsu as a support

    At the absolute worse, Minato could still either seal him and his Susanoo with the Hakke no fuin or draw with the Shiki Fujin, but i don't see him losing this match-up when he has so many options to win
     
         

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    Re: EMS sasuke vs Minato

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    Minato wins. With the restrictions, Sasuke stays with a 7m tall Susanoo max.

    Susanoo or Amaterasu are no threat for Minato since it can be port away. We've seen sand was capable to enter which means there is no physical contact between Susanoo and the user [1] With the Goshun Mawashi then, it doesn't only port it away, but gives opportunity to Minato to finish him off at the exact same moment [2]. Not even Jubito could react to it despite being the fastest, the greatest sensor, the most reactive in the manga, so let alone Sasuke.
    Sasuke's Enton will prevent Minato from touching the v1 Susano being used. Any attempts of touching it will make him Minato burn endlessly. Goshun Mawashi doesn't even work in this scenario lol.. Minato has to have someone mark him as well, and for obvious reasons, Susano isn't marking Minato. I don't need to explain the rest considering your argument isn't even possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by T Bogard View Post
    And even if Minato didn't use this move. He has other methods to win this fight since Sasuke can't use the legged or PS. While Minato doesn't possess a fire power capable to destroy Susanoo by himself, something always overlooked is that he does possess boss summons who have shown great DC(capable to change landscape in part1 [1] [2] [3] ) to the point of counter-acting with tailed beast like Shukaku and Kyubi in the category(cuting Shukaku's arm [1] or pin down the Kyubi [1]), 100% Kyubi who was more than 200meters. So all Minato has to do really is to put/leave a marking(kunai) on/near Susanoo(whether himself or a clone) and summon gamabunta on it for the food cart destroyer [1].
    Boss summons get controlled by Sasuke and used against him. Minato has not shown the capacity to use more than one summon without getting exhausted, so saying he can is an assumption. All the fire power Bunta has will be usable against Minato. If not, Minato simply gets an amateratsu to the face which will indubitably kill him. Since when does food cart destroyer work with FTG? It doesn't, considering nothing in the manga suggests Bunta was ever tagged by Minato in the first place. Moreover, Sasuke can either activate v3 Susano and cut it in half, or use chider spear with his sword, and cut it in half like here [x]. You can clearly see the range is tremendous with his kusanagi sword ration extension. I don't have to elaborate why Susno sword effortlessly cuts Bunta in half. All this is clearly to be expected, considering Minato will have to make the summoning hand seals, which Sasuke knows of.

    The impact of the attack would crush Sasuke, or at the very least give an opportunity for Minato to take advantage of this an finish him off. There is no other possible outcomes anyway since Sasuke has no way to hit Minato. The time Minato realises his normal moves don't work, he would have to use the summoning jutsu as a support

    At the absolute worse, Minato could still either seal him and his Susanoo with the Hakke no fuin or draw with the Shiki Fujin, but i don't see him losing this match-up when he has so many options to win
    No it will not. It will be noticeable (hand seals). It will be avoidable (Sasuke shunshin feats). It will be stoppable (Susano v3). It will be destroyable (Susano sword/Kusanagi ration extension). This isn't giving Minato anything, apart from losing chakra, and having a summon be turned against him incase it isn't killed.

    Minato is never bypassing the v1 Susano in the first place, to be capable of using his Shiki Fujin. Moreover, Shikifujin will not equal a win, considering they both die at the same time, meaning it's a draw, meaning it is unviable as an argument. The hake no fuin does not seal, it simply allowed Naruto access his Kyuubi's chakra to a greater extent, hence why there was a key.
     
         
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