So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

[Namikaze Haru]

The reason i made this thread is because people claim PS is an EMS jutsu. for my thoughts on that:

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=272628

most claimed that PS is an EMS technique

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such


When madara first activated Susanoo, he had his EMS.



then when he activated PS. he had his rinnegan.



http://i30.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353607.jpg

http://i13.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353609.jpg

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.



the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa



he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.


in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

[Meteo]

*Flips his Computer to the floor*

['Nāpalm]

It is is an EMS justsu, I doubt you need Rinnegan for it

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Madara already said he had it in his fight with hashirama and he only had ems back then.

[Sasuke082594]

Madara already said he had it in his fight with hashirama and he only had ems back then.

I don't believe you.. Never did he say that. If your referring to Tsunade saying "My grandfather fought against this?" then you are delusional. She only assumed. At the time she said that, Madara was using his Rinnegan.

[Simple Math]

Amplification Summoning Technique
Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Blocking Technique Absorption Seal
Chakra Explosion
Chakra Propulsion
Chakra Sensing Technique
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Five-Seal Barrier
Flaming Arrow Missiles
Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability
Human Path
Magic Lantern Body Technique
Mental Barricades
Mirrored Sudden Attacker Technique
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique
Preta Path
Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Shapeshifting Technique
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths of Pain
Soul Removal
Summoning Technique (Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, Konan, Six Paths of Pain)
Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path
Water Release: Wild Water Wave
Wind Release: Gale Palm
Chakra Disruption Blades
Chakra Receiver

we're talking about the eyes So6p had...

[Namikaze Haru]

then answer the question guys. madara said PS is his full power.

SO is EMS stronger than rinnegan?

[Sasuke082594]

The reason i made this thread is because people claim PS is an EMS jutsu. for my thoughts on that:

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=272628

most claimed that PS is an EMS technique

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such


When madara first activated Susanoo, he had his EMS.



then when he activated PS. he had his rinnegan.



http://i30.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353607.jpg

http://i13.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353609.jpg

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.



the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa



he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.


in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

I had tried to prove this a month ago or something, everyone bashed me for it bro. Clearly PS is a Rinnegan technique.

[oShux]

JJust posting here for nothin

[Namikaze Haru]

Amplification Summoning Technique
Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Blocking Technique Absorption Seal
Chakra Explosion
Chakra Propulsion
Chakra Sensing Technique
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Five-Seal Barrier
Flaming Arrow Missiles
Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability
Human Path
Magic Lantern Body Technique
Mental Barricades
Mirrored Sudden Attacker Technique
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique
Preta Path
Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Shapeshifting Technique
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths of Pain
Soul Removal
Summoning Technique (Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, Konan, Six Paths of Pain)
Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path
Water Release: Wild Water Wave
Wind Release: Gale Palm
Chakra Disruption Blades
Chakra Receiver

we're talking about the eyes So6p had...

mate i don't think that EMS is stonger but based on what people are telling me thats what they think..

[PainTotheEarth]

without EMS no rinnegan so this is sh*t

[PainTotheEarth]

Amplification Summoning Technique
Animal Path
Asura Path
Banshō Ten'in
Blocking Technique Absorption Seal
Chakra Explosion
Chakra Propulsion
Chakra Sensing Technique
Chibaku Tensei
Deva Path
Five-Seal Barrier
Flaming Arrow Missiles
Flaming Arrow of Amazing Ability
Human Path
Magic Lantern Body Technique
Mental Barricades
Mirrored Sudden Attacker Technique
Naraka Path
Outer Path
Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique
Preta Path
Rain Tiger at Will Technique
Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals
Shapeshifting Technique
Shinra Tensei
Six Paths of Pain
Soul Removal
Summoning Technique (Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, Konan, Six Paths of Pain)
Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path
Water Release: Wild Water Wave
Wind Release: Gale Palm
Chakra Disruption Blades
Chakra Receiver

we're talking about the eyes So6p had...

without EMS no rinnegan so no....

[Simple Math]

mate i don't think that EMS is stonger but based on what people are telling me thats what they think..

EMS = his strongest power (1 tech)
rinnegan = strong powers (30 tech's)

[Namikaze Haru]

I had tried to prove this a month ago or something, everyone bashed me for it bro. Clearly PS is a Rinnegan technique.

im with u man

[KobayashiShane]

ehh both are good lol.

[Encon Uchiha]

The reason i made this thread is because people claim PS is an EMS jutsu. for my thoughts on that:

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=272628

most claimed that PS is an EMS technique

before i start, there are some things i would like to point out. this is something i found on the net on other forum.

Observations:

(1) When Madara used his sent out his normal Susanoo, his eye assumed a normal EMS form.

(2) He could not use Rinnegan Preta Path to absorb Jinton while his EMS was activated, since his Rinnegan was not activated.

(3) Also previously, he has to switch to the Rinnegan before he could absorb Jinton. Of which, Susanoo dissipated when he did it.

(4) When he switched to the Rinnegan, his perfect Susanoo form was shown.

(5) Therefore I believe that the Rinnegan and the EMS are mutually exclusive of each other, AND the Susanoo Perfect form is actually a Rinnegan power, but it is probably usable only by people with BOTH the Rinnegan, and all previously unlocked stages of the sharingan.

Hmmm I am not sure, but maybe I might be wrong on some parts. The Rinnegan was used together with Susanoo with that meteorite jutsu. Perhaps it's usable with Susanoo, but not with the other Rinnegan jutsus if EMS is employed?

Conversely, the EMS was used for genjutsu. Perhaps the Rinnegan had no such


When madara first activated Susanoo, he had his EMS.



then when he activated PS. he had his rinnegan.



http://i30.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353607.jpg

http://i13.mangareader.net/naruto/58...to-3353609.jpg

now people may say that it is because he already had rinnegan when he activated PS but then why does he change back to his EMS when he uses a genjutsu on A.



the last thing is that madara could not use susanoo when using preta path and vice versa



he says that the susanoo were not fast enough to avoid the jinton but why not absorb it? because he could not.


in my other thread i stated that PS was not exactly an rinnegan tech but an EMS tech greatly improved by senju DNA. the combination of the the uchiha's powerful chakra and spiritual energy and the senju's life force and physical energy.

but according to other people, i am wrong and only EMS is needed.

but i thought about something when madara first uses his PS he refers to this as his full power, so if this is true then that means that EMS is stronger than the Rinnegan? and in my eyes, thats absolutely wrong...

Perfect Susanoo is a MS tech. Both Itachi and Sasuke has shown it. (The one with the long nose and jewel). The Perfect Susanoo stablized that can cut a mountain is exclusive to Madara and Itachi and Sasuke dont have it. It has nothing to do with Rinnegan.

Hey guys have you noticed something? Sasuke is adept with Amaterasu (can form it any way he wants). Itachi si adept with Tsukuyomi (can control time and space freely). Madara is adept with Susanoo (HUGE as **** and stabilized.) Wierd huh?

[oShux]

meh the world may never know

[Simple Math]

Perfect Susanoo is a MS tech. Both Itachi and Sasuke has shown it. (The one with the long nose and jewel). The Perfect Susanoo stablized that can cut a mountain is exclusive to Madara and Itachi and Sasuke dont have it. It has nothing to do with Rinnegan.

Hey guys have you noticed something? Sasuke is adept with Amaterasu (can form it any way he wants). Itachi si adept with Tsukuyomi (can control time and space freely). Madara is adept with Susanoo (HUGE as **** and stabilized.) Wierd huh?

show me a manga scan with Itachi/Sasuke using perfect susanoo.

[Sasuke082594]

Perfect Susanoo is a MS tech. Both Itachi and Sasuke has shown it. (The one with the long nose and jewel). The Perfect Susanoo stablized that can cut a mountain is exclusive to Madara and Itachi and Sasuke dont have it. It has nothing to do with Rinnegan.

Hey guys have you noticed something? Sasuke is adept with Amaterasu (can form it any way he wants). Itachi si adept with Tsukuyomi (can control time and space freely). Madara is adept with Susanoo (HUGE as **** and stabilized.) Wierd huh?

As i can recall, there is only Susano'o and apparently a Perfect Susano'o. Itachi and Sasuke both have Susano'o(EMS or MS doesn't matter), and Madara has PS due to him having the Rinnegan.

[Sasuke082594]

show me a manga scan with Itachi/Sasuke using perfect susanoo.

What he said.

[Encon Uchiha]

show me a manga scan with Itachi/Sasuke using perfect susanoo.

As i can recall, there is only Susano'o and apparently a Perfect Susano'o. Itachi and Sasuke both have Susano'o(EMS or MS doesn't matter), and Madara has PS due to him having the Rinnegan.

What he said.

Sasuke perfect Susanoo '


Itachi perfect Susanoo


Madara perfect Susanoo


Madara perfect Susanoo (chakra stabilized)


I hope that helps guys. Madaras is bigger because he is adept at Susanoo and was known to have one of the most powerful chakras in Narutoverse. The stabilized version is only exclusize to Madara though.

i have extensive knowledge about Susanoo and prolly will explain it all in a thread later but right now i gotta go to class,i can maybe reply there but it wil be hard

[Sasuke082594]

Sasuke perfect Susanoo '


Itachi perfect Susanoo


Madara perfect Susanoo


Madara perfect Susanoo (chakra stabilized)


I hope that helps guys. Madaras is bigger because he is adept at Susanoo and was known to have one of the most powerful chakras in Narutoverse. The stabilized version is only exclusize to Madara though.

i have extensive knowledge about Susanoo and prolly will explain it all in a thread later but right now i gotta go to class,i can maybe reply there but it wil be hard

So here you tell me that Itachi(MS user) has PS just because of the pointed nose? Yet Sasuke(EMS user) has PS, but doesn't even have a pointed nose? This actually proves that Madara's PS is only a Rinnegan technique, it's perfect due to it being completely mobile, as in arms and legs. When SM Naruto attacked EMS Madara with multiple giant Rasengans why did he bring up PS?

[oShux]

without EMS no rinnegan so this is sh*t

No? Obito doesn't have EMS Only person who had both is Madara, and Nagato doesn't have EMS either. The only thing that was said is that you need Uchiha and Senju DNA to have Rinnegan

[oShux]

So here you tell me that Itachi(MS user) has PS just because of the pointed nose? Yet Sasuke(EMS user) has PS, but doesn't even have a pointed nose? This actually proves that Madara's PS is only a Rinnegan technique, it's perfect due to it being completely mobile, as in arms and legs. When SM Naruto attacked EMS Madara with multiple giant Rasengans why did he bring up PS?

Itachi and Sasuke have COMPLETE Susanoo's not Perfect ones

[Sasuke082594]

Itachi and Sasuke have COMPLETE Susanoo's not Perfect ones

Thank you! Complete Susano'o=PS? No it doesn't. Can they use PS? No. Why/ They don't have Rinnegan.