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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Rinnegan summons Gedo Mazo. Let's see Perfect Susanoo versus the Juubi.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Encon Uchiha View Post
    Nope. He activated it to use Preta path or he would be destroyed by RasenShuriken. and there would be no reason to go back to EMS since he already got his Rinnegan active. You fail.

    No one has said that. You double fail.
    You said in your own words "sasuke's perfect susanoo" "itachi's perfect susanoo" then posted pictures of their susanoos (both of which a CLEARLY. Not ps) as proof, the only failure here is you and your dismissed.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Itachi and Sasuke have Complete Susano'o, not Perfect.

    So until shown otherwise, we can safely assume Perfect Susano'o is Rinnegan Tech.
    In case you forgot lol
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Alright, lets just put this simple.
    Madara awakened the rinnegan shortly before he died.
    He was an old man back then.

    Now, if by what you're saying, perfect Susanoo is awakened along with rinnegan, then how could he claim no one ever lived to tell the tale of his PS after bringing it out if he awakened it when he was too old to do anything anyway?

    Its an EMS technique.
    Yes EMS is superior to the rinnegan version we've seen Nagato use, hell, even normal MS is superior to the rinnegan we've seen Nagato use ( meaning without MS abilities ).
    No EMS is not superior to the one Madara uses ( it backs his EMS up as a support, I'm sure it was the same for the rikudo. )

    Nagato's rinnegan was lacking its full potential due to it being an implant.
    Madara's rinnegan however is at its full potential.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasuke082594 View Post
    He didn't need too? So your telling me he knew what Naruto was capable of so he held back on purpose? Or he merely got lucky that his COMPLETE Susano'o tanked Naruto's attack?
    Of course he held back..... He is freaking Madara... why would he seriously at that moment take Naruto seriously? now that doesnt mean he is going to take a gaint rasengan to the face either!

    when we first saw madaras Susanno; he successfully negated Naruto attacks. now when he used the rinnegan for the first time, it was because he had been pulled out of susanno and thus had no other option but to absorb the attack, it didnt mean he thought susanno wouldnt take the attack... he was not able to use susanno.... Now for all we know, once he activated the rinnegan going back to other sharingan would not be possible, but the ability to use EMS abilities are still accessable. we have yet to see him turn off rinnegan once he turned it on the first time, for all we know he cant! This also doesnt not confirm that PS is strickly rinnegan, there is no definitive proof! But seeing as all the other versions derive from MS, it can be concluded PS is derived from the EMS!
     
         
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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by arv993 View Post
    explain to me how he knew so much about the rinnegan without using it. how did he know what the rinne tensei jutsu is, he has shown to be the first one to use gedo, he was shown to use the preta path, he was shown to use the meteors on much bigger scale than nagato himself that shows he is quite good with the rinnegan. i did not say he was a master but he was a good user and so far from his use and knowledge of the rinnegan it can be easily understood. he had time its not like he got the rinnegan and fell to the ground and died, he had some time to come up with a tsuki no me plan etc, and give it to nagato and lived until obito's time through the mazo itself. in that time he could have learned more about the rinnegan and he has clearly shown he is very knowledgeable saying he is a noob with the rinnegan is absurd. he is a pretty adept user atleast from what he has shown with the rinnegan.
    The Uchiha Tablet is how he knew so much about the rinnegan and how it works! What im saying is how did he master a dojutsu, when for the most part, Madara was a walking corpse after activating the rinnegan. He didnt have the strength to spend time training. Knowing how to use something and being able to use it are not the same. He had the knowledge, but not the strength. How would he train with the rinnegan, when he gave his eyes to Nagato, and he had to do it shortly after he aquired them.


    we also honestly have no clue if the meteor attack came from Rinnegan... Its completely different from Chibaku Tensei and It needed to use his susanno to help use the jutsu. All he did was pull the rock from orbit. If it was a rinnegan based, he wouldnt have needed susannos help!
     
         
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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    nah! jiraya admitted rinnegan is d strongest,and i dont tink anyone cud du wat pain did with his rinnegan,seriously ems might be cool and strong with the ability to use susaanoos witout suffering blindness...bt many hve admited rinnegan is the so6p eyes...creater of all ninjutsu...no further argument required
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    we also honestly have no clue if the meteor attack came from Rinnegan... Its completely different from Chibaku Tensei and It needed to use his susanno to help use the jutsu. All he did was pull the rock from orbit. If it was a rinnegan based, he wouldnt have needed susannos help!
    Umm.....

    Nagato using a meteor jutsu...
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/549/9

    Madara using a more powerful meteor jutsu via Susanoo (three hand signs are needed) ...
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/16.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/17.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c561/4.html
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    we also honestly have no clue if the meteor attack came from Rinnegan... Its completely different from Chibaku Tensei and It needed to use his susanno to help use the jutsu. All he did was pull the rock from orbit. If it was a rinnegan based, he wouldnt have needed susannos help!
    Umm.....

    Nagato using a meteor jutsu...
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/549/9

    Madara using a more powerful meteor jutsu via Susanoo (three hand signs are needed) ...
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/16.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/17.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c561/4.html

    It is safe to say by using Susanoo with rinnegan, it allows you to use a more power technique. Hence the more powerful meteorite jutsu (which needed Susanoo for the three hand signs). Seeing the proof above, Madara uses EMS Susanoo and enhances it's power with the rinnegan making it "perfect" (showing him using the rinnegan when performing this).*

    YOU NEED EMS SUSANOO WITH THE RINNEGAN TO OBTAIN PERFECT SUSANOO...

    *Sigh*, you guys are idiots...
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    no ... madara stated that he used PS in his battle against hashirama .... and in his battle with hashirama he never had the rinnegan only EMS now i dont think PS is a part of EMS power i just think susano evolves the more its used .... as u see with sasuke his susano grew more and more each time he used it ...... and i think PS is the pinacle of susano's evolution ... however by the time u get to that point with a normal MS ur more than likely to have gone blind ....
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by oShux View Post
    No? Obito doesn't have EMS Only person who had both is Madara, and Nagato doesn't have EMS either. The only thing that was said is that you need Uchiha and Senju DNA to have Rinnegan
    i mean no sharingan o rinnegan.. because yo can have senju DNA sure... but just like hashirama no rinnegan because no sharingan..
    nagaot got it from madara and obito from nagato but if they both didnt take it. nagato had NEVER had it.. then only obito needs EMS to rinnegan
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Encon Uchiha View Post
    Read my post above. Susanoo is from Mangekyou ,not Rinnegan, if it was a Rinnegan technique, Nagato the best user of Rinnegan would've used it.

    Madara's is Perfect (chakra stabilized). Itachi's and Sasuke's are Perfect unstabilized .

    Im not replying to any more comments until someone can respond with a logical explanation why they think Rinnegan is EMS tech.
    how can you see when someone replays
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    GO TO NARUTO WIKI .COM IT SAYS THAT ITS IN HIS EMS FINALS SUSANO STABILIZE so GTFO
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    intense lol.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    not sure what I think too early to say really. I think its very possible it may require Rinnegan but until we find out the direct relationship between Sharingan and Rinnegan its hard to say.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Rinnegan summons Gedo Mazo. Let's see Perfect Susanoo versus the Juubi.
    Imperfect Juubi.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Rinnegan is way better than EMS
    that's what I think
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Perfect Susanoo is a Mangekyou Sharingan technqiue


    Anyway, saying EMS is stronger than Rinnegan is like saying the 3 tomoe Sharingan is stronger than MS, or MS is stronger than EMS
    ...
    they're the same dojutsu, Sharingan = Rinnegan.
    Rinnegan includes previous Sharingan techniques like EMS includes MS techniques.


    Rinnegan is the peak of the dojutsu so it's obviously the best form of Sharingan to have (it's best used by an Uchiha)

    that is until the Juubi's dojutsu is explained
     
         
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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Look at Obito's MS three versions of Kamui if Obito had both eyes he'd be invincible. He could warp you from afar and up close and you'd never be able to hit him. He'd be in the same level as Nagato with one MS eye if he'd had both he could kill Nagato easily. Madara with EMS is unstobable his Susanoo is to powerful that only one person in history has been able to stop it. Madara rarely uses his rinnegan powers. The rinnegan is more diverse but MS is just to powerful. One look at someone and they die.

    Also to the people arguing with the maker of this thread don't bother it'll be like fighting a wall if dimond with just your fist. Madara himself said the only person to defeat his perfect Susanoo is the 1st hokage. That stabilized Susanoo is still the perfect Susanoo. Just like chidori is still Rakari just advanced. Madara fights with mostly his Susanoo so of course it'll be more advanced than his Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu. Itachi hardly used Susanoo and Sasuke is learning the stages of Susanoo. Sasuke never even used Perfect Susanoo in an actual fight.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Itachi and Sasuke have Complete Susano'o, not Perfect.

    So until shown otherwise, we can safely assume Perfect Susano'o is Rinnegan Tech.
    that's like saying their Susanoo are new and Madara's is fresh or vice versa

    complete = perfect. they have the exact same meaning. there's absolutely no difference. Kishi uses the terms interchangeably, in fact the only reason you know it as "perfect" is because that's how the translator chose to phrase it.

    Madara's Susanoo is complete and Itachi and Sasuke's are perfect.
    Madara and Itachi's Susanoo are perfect, Sasuke's is complete.


    Itachi, Sasuke and Madara all have final stage Susanoo's.
    Madara's is only larger and stabilized (optional)
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    When Madara said "the full power of Uchiha Madara" he is speaking on his EMS powers. Those are his true natural powers. The Rinnegan isn't something that Madara naturally gained. This is why Madara stated that the myth behind his P.Susanoo is that who ever seen it never lived to tell about it. This means that Madara had the P.Susanoo before he had the Rinnegan. Madara gained the Rinnegan when he was a very very old man and by that time he was stuck underground attached to the Mazou.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    The Sharingan evolves into the Rinnengan so no EMS is not stronger then the Rinnengan.

    You have to remember that we have never really seen the full power of the Rinnengan because as strong as Nagato was with the Rinnengan they were not his own eyes.

    It's same thing with Kakashi & his Sharingan he will never be on the level as an Uchiha with a Sharingan because he doesn't have the body to go with the eyes. That's why even though Obito & Kakashi share eyes Obito's is stronger.

    & there reason why the Sage was so powerful is he had the eyes & the body. It's the Yin&Yang thing.
     
         

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    Re: So EMS is stronger than Rinnegan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amelius View Post
    we also honestly have no clue if the meteor attack came from Rinnegan... Its completely different from Chibaku Tensei and It needed to use his susanno to help use the jutsu. All he did was pull the rock from orbit. If it was a rinnegan based, he wouldnt have needed susannos help!
    Umm.....

    Nagato using a meteor jutsu...
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/549/9

    Madara using a more powerful meteor jutsu via Susanoo (three hand signs are needed) ...
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/16.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c560/17.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c561/4.html

    It is safe to say by using Susanoo with rinnegan, it allows you to use a more power technique. Hence the more powerful meteorite jutsu (which needed Susanoo for the three hand signs). Seeing the proof above, Madara uses EMS Susanoo and enhances it's power with the rinnegan making it "perfect" (showing him using the rinnegan when performing this).*

    YOU NEED EMS SUSANOO WITH THE RINNEGAN TO OBTAIN PERFECT SUSANOO...

    *Sigh*, you guys are idiots...
     
         

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