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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    once Nadal get back from injury, he will own this guy
    maybe on clay but he isn't beating Djoko on any other surfaces and that's assuming he gets back to his best which he probably won't.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    im a big fan of him but my favorite remains to be Nadal.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    It's not just because he is my countryman, but he really is one of the greatest tennis player of all times. In 2011 he had remarkable season, and now, in 2013 he won Beijing, Shanghai and Paris in row, but sadly, he most likely won't end year as number one.
     
         

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    He's my fav after Roger. Although I don't see him matching Roger's Prime.
     
         

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    I on the other hand think both Nadal and Novak could beat Roger in his prime. That man got lucky. His opponents were wll, not so good. You can't say Roddick, Nalbandian, Baghdatis in their primes were better then Nadal and Djokovic. Also Agasi was nearly ending his career like Roger is doing right now.

    As for me, Nadal/Novak>>>Roger

    Best tennis player of all time: Sampras and Nadal.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by cajin View Post
    I on the other hand think both Nadal and Novak could beat Roger in his prime. That man got lucky. His opponents were wll, not so good. You can't say Roddick, Nalbandian, Baghdatis in their primes were better then Nadal and Djokovic. Also Agasi was nearly ending his career like Roger is doing right now.

    As for me, Nadal/Novak>>>Roger

    Best tennis player of all time: Sampras and Nadal.
    Sorry but I disagree.

    Prime Roger is the greatest of all time as Said by other greats of the tennis. in 2004 he never lost a match against top 10. in 2005 his win/loss was 81-4. in 2006 it was 92-5 in 2007 68-9. Even his 07 is better than Nole or Rafa.

    Also the courts are now way slower than what they were, so today the base-liners have it easy back then the courts were faster.

    Rafa hardly won against Prime fed on a surface other than clay. Post-Prime fed has beaten Prime Nole at very important stages esp in 2011.

    Wimbledon is the only remaining fast surface and in 2012 Roger beat Nole, Andy rafa was out in round 2 and this Roger was way past his prime. Imagine current crop of players who have difficulty in beating today's Roger facing the Roger of 04-07. He takes them all
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    Sorry but I disagree.

    Prime Roger is the greatest of all time as Said by other greats of the tennis. in 2004 he never lost a match against top 10. in 2005 his win/loss was 81-4. in 2006 it was 92-5 in 2007 68-9. Even his 07 is better than Nole or Rafa.

    Also the courts are now way slower than what they were, so today the base-liners have it easy back then the courts were faster.

    Rafa hardly won against Prime fed on a surface other than clay. Post-Prime fed has beaten Prime Nole at very important stages esp in 2011.

    Wimbledon is the only remaining fast surface and in 2012 Roger beat Nole, Andy rafa was out in round 2 and this Roger was way past his prime. Imagine current crop of players who have difficulty in beating today's Roger facing the Roger of 04-07. He takes them all

    All matches: Nadal, 22–10
    All finals: Nadal, 14–6

    Grand Slam matches: Nadal, 8–2
    Australian Open: Nadal, 2–0
    French Open: Nadal, 5–0
    Wimbledon: Federer, 2–1
    US Open: Have not met
    Grand Slam finals: Nadal, 6–2

    Tennis Masters Cup/ATP World Tour Finals matches: Federer, 4–1
    Tennis Masters Cup/ATP World Tour Finals finals: Federer, 1–0

    ATP Masters Series/ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches: Nadal, 12–4
    ATP Masters Series/ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals: Nadal, 7–3

    ATP World Tour 500/ATP International Series Gold matches: Nadal, 1–0
    ATP World Tour 500/ATP International Series Gold finals: Nadal, 1–0

    Best of five set matches: Nadal, 10–3
    Five-set matches: Nadal, 3–2
    Best of three set matches: Nadal, 12–7
    Outdoor courts: Nadal, 21–6
    Indoor courts: Federer, 4–1

    Just sayin and don't get me wrong I love Federer
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Well, I'm from Serbia so of course I know him even though I'm not a fan of tennis. Anyone who watches tennis knows about him.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooh View Post
    All matches: Nadal, 22–10
    All finals: Nadal, 14–6

    Grand Slam matches: Nadal, 8–2
    Australian Open: Nadal, 2–0
    French Open: Nadal, 5–0
    Wimbledon: Federer, 2–1
    US Open: Have not met
    Grand Slam finals: Nadal, 6–2

    Tennis Masters Cup/ATP World Tour Finals matches: Federer, 4–1
    Tennis Masters Cup/ATP World Tour Finals finals: Federer, 1–0

    ATP Masters Series/ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches: Nadal, 12–4
    ATP Masters Series/ATP World Tour Masters 1000 finals: Nadal, 7–3

    ATP World Tour 500/ATP International Series Gold matches: Nadal, 1–0
    ATP World Tour 500/ATP International Series Gold finals: Nadal, 1–0

    Best of five set matches: Nadal, 10–3
    Five-set matches: Nadal, 3–2
    Best of three set matches: Nadal, 12–7
    Outdoor courts: Nadal, 21–6
    Indoor courts: Federer, 4–1

    Just sayin and don't get me wrong I love Federer
    If you eliminate clay the you'll recognize that Fed has better record Also as said post 2009 federer isn't Prime Federer. In his Prime he was absolutely untouchable [again eliminate clay and even on clay he was the best after Rafa]

    237 consecutive weeks at the top. 23 consecutive semi-finals would've made 20 consecutive finals had it not been that Ausop 08 semi

    Prime Roger was too much
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    If you eliminate clay the you'll recognize that Fed has better record Also as said post 2009 federer isn't Prime Federer. In his Prime he was absolutely untouchable [again eliminate clay and even on clay he was the best after Rafa]

    237 consecutive weeks at the top. 23 consecutive semi-finals would've made 20 consecutive finals had it not been that Ausop 08 semi

    Prime Roger was too much
    why should we eliminate clay? You're acting like clay isn't an acknowledged tennis surface ^^. Even if we would eliminate clay roger and rafa would be pretty even. Rafa also defeated Federer in plenty of matches pre 2009, Wimbledon 2008 to name one.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooh View Post
    why should we eliminate clay? You're acting like clay isn't an acknowledged tennis surface ^^. Even if we would eliminate clay roger and rafa would be pretty even. Rafa also defeated Federer in plenty of matches pre 2009, Wimbledon 2008 to name one.
    I know whatever I'll say would sound like an excuse but most people know that Roger was ill during 08 season it was his worst season during 04-09, you can look up about it but I won't go any further.

    I said to eliminate clay in Rafa-Roger h2h Nadal couldn't even make it to 4th round till 07 on hard court GS. He made his first semis in 08. And if you do eliminate clay in h2h and see till 09 then you'll Roger has +ve record
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    I know whatever I'll say would sound like an excuse but most people know that Roger was ill during 08 season it was his worst season during 04-09, you can look up about it but I won't go any further.

    I said to eliminate clay in Rafa-Roger h2h Nadal couldn't even make it to 4th round till 07 on hard court GS. He made his first semis in 08. And if you do eliminate clay in h2h and see till 09 then you'll Roger has +ve record
    That's what every Federer fan says .

    Nadal was 21 years old in 07, thats hardly an argument. Nadal is currently reaching his prime and he will top prime federer no problem.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    pfffffff...
    I hate him.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooh View Post
    That's what every Federer fan says .

    Nadal was 21 years old in 07, thats hardly an argument. Nadal is currently reaching his prime and he will top prime federer no problem.
    How?

    How is he gonna have 237 consecutive weeks at the top? How's he gonna win 3 slams per annum at least two more times? How's he gonna have 23 consecutive semi-finals? People don't call Roger the GOAT just because of 17 slams its mostly because of the unparalleled consistency and mastery over all courts and his all round play

    Nole's gonna destroy Nadal in 2014 anyways. Andy could challenge him as well, given he's fit
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    How?

    How is he gonna have 237 consecutive weeks at the top? How's he gonna win 3 slams per annum at least two more times? How's he gonna have 23 consecutive semi-finals? People don't call Roger the GOAT just because of 17 slams its mostly because of the unparalleled consistency and mastery over all courts and his all round play

    Nole's gonna destroy Nadal in 2014 anyways. Andy could challenge him as well, given he's fit
    Roger is one of the best players of all time don't get me wrong, but still Rafa will reach his record because he's even better (accept for the 237 weeks top I guess, but Roger had no serious challenger back then, nowadays we have Nole, Rafa, Andy and Roger himself, totally different), he's unmatched on clay and he starts to destroy people the same way on hard court.

    LOL Minator my friend, I know you like to troll but do you seriously think that Nole and Andy will "destroy" Nadal?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooh View Post
    Roger is one of the best players of all time don't get me wrong, but still Rafa will reach his record because he's even better (accept for the 237 weeks top I guess, but Roger had no serious challenger back then, nowadays we have Nole, Rafa, Andy and Roger himself, totally different), he's unmatched on clay and he starts to destroy people the same way on hard court.

    LOL Minator my friend, I know you like to troll but do you seriously think that Nole and Andy will "destroy" Nadal?
    I have no doubt that Nadal is a masterful player but to me at least the consistency all round and the 3 slams/annum [3 times] is more of a great thing.

    Roger never lost like Nadal did in the 2012 Wimbledon or was absent from the tour for months, after he hit his prime, his only terrible loss came this wimbledon and he's well past his prime.

    About him being unmatched on clay well we can say that's over now. I mean from 2011 Nole has showed he can beat Nadal and he's beat him hard. I remember Nadal feeling utterly helpless in FO2012 final before the rain hit. Nole owned him in 3rd set and had a break in the 4th. The rain saved him that time. And in this years Semi final Nole [had it not been that net point where he touched the net] was sure to win but was unlucky. Heck that match won the match of the year award and that point has became the point of the year

    Also I only said Nole would destroy him. In 2011 Nole was 6-0 up. In 2012 he destroyed him in that AUSOP final. And I agree that Nole couldn't beat Nadal in FO, Rogers Cup,USOP this year but Nole totally owned him in asian swing and in O2 arena. Rafa couldn't even win a set after USOP against Nole, why? As many analysts have said Nole's form has returned!

    Just re-watch these highlights and you'll see my point


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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    I'm currently on a 22 winning streak. I will win the grand slam next year without breaking a sweat.
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    Nadal >Prime Roger + Djokovic
     
         

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    OP: Secretly bragging about being from Serbia too lol.
     
         

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    Re: Novak Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    Nadal >Prime Roger + Djokovic
    Prime Roger [2004-2007] > Nole > Nadal
     
         

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    I have no doubt that Nadal is a masterful player but to me at least the consistency all round and the 3 slams/annum [3 times] is more of a great thing.

    Roger never lost like Nadal did in the 2012 Wimbledon or was absent from the tour for months, after he hit his prime, his only terrible loss came this wimbledon and he's well past his prime.

    About him being unmatched on clay well we can say that's over now. I mean from 2011 Nole has showed he can beat Nadal and he's beat him hard. I remember Nadal feeling utterly helpless in FO2012 final before the rain hit. Nole owned him in 3rd set and had a break in the 4th. The rain saved him that time. And in this years Semi final Nole [had it not been that net point where he touched the net] was sure to win but was unlucky. Heck that match won the match of the year award and that point has became the point of the year

    Also I only said Nole would destroy him. In 2011 Nole was 6-0 up. In 2012 he destroyed him in that AUSOP final. And I agree that Nole couldn't beat Nadal in FO, Rogers Cup,USOP this year but Nole totally owned him in asian swing and in O2 arena. Rafa couldn't even win a set after USOP against Nole, why? As many analysts have said Nole's form has returned!

    Just re-watch these highlights and you'll see my point


    I troll NDS from time to time but this is something I would never even imagine of trolling
    Nadals loss at Wimbledon 2012 was shocking to me, I can't say anything against your point, that was just awful.

    Well, you pointed out some interessting things. I agree that Nole dominated him in O2.
    FO2013, I mean, you aren't allowed to touch the net Nole should have known. These are the rules and imo Nadal dominated him in FO2013.
    FO2012, ye they had a rain break and Rafa was able to refocus but that shouldn't matter for Nole, Nadal was just better then him after the break.
    Still Nole is a brilliant player and I'm really looking forward to the upcoming Grand Slams and also Rafa v. Nole matches, they tend to be thrilling .
     
         

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    Nadals loss at Wimbledon 2012 was shocking to me, I can't say anything against your point, that was just awful.

    Well, you pointed out some interessting things. I agree that Nole dominated him in O2.
    FO2013, I mean, you aren't allowed to touch the net Nole should have known. These are the rules and imo Nadal dominated him in FO2013.
    FO2012, ye they had a rain break and Rafa was able to refocus but that shouldn't matter for Nole, Nadal was just better then him after the break.
    Still Nole is a brilliant player and I'm really looking forward to the upcoming Grand Slams and also Rafa v. Nole matches, they tend to be thrilling .
    Another AUSOP Final is what I'm hoping for, however if Roger thwarts that then I'll be more happy
     
         

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    Unbeatable AO King.
     
         
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