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    Re: Itachi double standards

    In terms of acts naturally Itachi did more bad actions....he set himself up as a villain in order to protect his village. Itachi said it himself that he errored in not trusting in those around him which he shared with Kabuto. The difference between the two is that Itachi's deeds were done to protect the village he loved and his brother. Sasuke's were done to avenge his clan and his inability to understand how Naruto was growing so fast (having a dream and a goal that wasnt on the path of revenge).

    Both brothers did some bad stuff and you as an individual have to decide whether the actions to save his village and brother or to avenge one's clan is the more justified reason. I personally side with Itachi as he thinks above who he is where Sasuke thinks of revenge and of his own pride as an Uchiha. That isn't everyone's thoughts just how I see it!

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    Re: Itachi double standards

    itachi was used by danzo because war traumatized itachi when he was 4



    and if he didn't do that it would have caused a 4th ninja war


    he showed mercy on kabuto

    he did admit that he failed with sasuke tho
     
         
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    Re: Itachi double standards

    Quote Originally Posted by FTG V2 View Post
    Jealous?..no, because the reason why Sasuke left the Village was to get stronger Naruto had J-man and Sasuke had only Kakashi so the only way for Sasuke to ger stronger was go to Oro.
    And what was the push? because he saw how strong Naruto had become.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi double standards

    and if he didn't do that it would have caused a 4th ninja war
    no it wouldnt. if half the clan is dead how can they rebel? women and children arent exactly the type for a rebel army. itachi chose the most brutal and evil action possible and paid the price with his life.


    e showed mercy on kabuto
    no shisui did. that wasnt itachi talking, it was koto amatsukami
    he did admit that he failed with sasuke tho
    again KA controlled itachi = not real itachi

    he set himself up as a villain in order to protect his village
    he commited horrible crimes which led to the destruction of konoha, like doing nothing about pain for 10 years and helping them get the jinchurikis. how is that protecting anyone except himself?

    Delaying world war for many years, however, was a good thing.
    not when the threat of world war depended soley on the actions of people itachi cant control. even if he did kill the clan, another kage could decide to invade anyway now that uchihas were out of the equation. itachi was a manipulated fool and a psychopath. worse than akainu. akainu was faced with a weapon that could destroy the planet and had to make sure the people who knew about it on ohara were all dead. but itachi was only faced with a civil disturbance, HIS OWN COMRADES AND FAMILY. he didnt even TRY to protect and save them. even to stop a bloody rebellion, he chose the most brutal sociopathic option and slaughtered kids. most of which were probably coerced into going along with it

    The difference between the two is that Itachi's deeds were done to protect the village he loved and his brother. Sasuke's were done to avenge his clan and his inability to understand how Naruto was growing so fast
    actions speak louder than intentions. itachi did worse shit than sasuke. and he got away with it. sasuke paid for his crimes by being permanently alone with only taka for company. itachi lazed around doing nothing for 10 years. itachis deeds were done to further the destruction of konoha, whether it was his intention or not, and corrupted his own brother with brutal mindrape.

    Both brothers did some bad stuff and you as an individual have to decide whether the actions to save his village and brother or to avenge one's clan is the more justified reason. I personally side with Itachi as he thinks above who he is where Sasuke thinks of revenge and of his own pride as an Uchiha
    both brothers believe in twisted justice. sasuke wants to destroy a corrupt institution for their crimes against his people. itachi wanted to destroy his own family because corrupt people said so. thats the difference between the two. itachi was an idiot and a tool/puppet. sasuke is his own man doing what he believes is right. everything sauskes doing, you can link back to itachis mindrape and mindfuking that he did to him.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi double standards

    Itachi DID prevent the world war that was about to occure.
    what world war? did you see a world war? did you see the kages mobilising on the borders with kunais pointed at konoha? did you see the UCHIHA CLAN marching on konoha HQ? no. itachi stopped the mere THREAT of a bloody rebellion that MIGHT down the road cause a war out of civil unrest. but the loss of their entire most powerful and ancient clan IS AN EQUALLY DAMAGING OCCURANCE. kages could leap on that opportunity as easily as a failed bloody coup. so he stopped nothing. the foreign kages being not warmongering fools is what stopped a war.

    Obito stated it himself.... he was looking for an opportunity for war.... the Uchiha rebeillion was THE PERFECT opportunity for him to do so...
    obito stated it himself. he wanted revenge on uchihas for no explained reason. that was his priority. if he wanted war, he could just let itachi die against uchiha police, even help them do it.

    World war + Obito shitting on top of everybody from the shadows = end of the god damn world
    isnt that whats happening right now? itachi stopped nothing

    Itachi had to do this so Tobi wouldn't try to destroy Konoha. Sasuke did this on his own free will.
    itachi did it of his wil too. no one controlled him. and konoha could be destroyed anyway if another nation heard konoha lost its most powerful clan to a traitor.

    That same mother was going to endanger him and his little bro Sasuke by putting them though war however Sasuke did this because Itachi told him too [which is a terrible reason to try and kill someone].
    what war? show me where uchihas declared war. show me where there was a possibility of uchiha coup failing. they wouldnt do it if they didnt have a chance of winning. such a small clan cant handle a protracted conflict. that same mother is still his mother and was probably coerced inot it by uchiha police. the masters of genjutsu coercing people? surely you jest! itachi could have easily gotten her out of there. but he accepted the help of an evil psychopath who probably goaded him into it.

    How did Itachi stab Obito in the back? Didn't Obito stab Itachi in the back by telling Sasuke his secret?
    that happened after itachi revealed his betrayal with the amaterasu to the face

    He had to to make Sasuke stronger I disagree with how he went about it but it's not like he had a choose if he was part of akatsuki so he couldn't act nice to Sasuke.
    no he didnt. he just wanted to so sasuke could judge him and kill him. that isnt justifiable in any sense to corrupt a kid just so he can be your executioner one day.

    he had to to do those terrible things.
    in a sense so did sasuke. sasuke believed he has to destroy konoha or his family cant die in peace

    So what did you want him to do? Confess to everyone that the Uchihas were planning on betraying Konoha and ruin the Uchiha clans reputation?
    confess that madara did it, which in a sense, he did. madaras actions led to this situation. obito unleashed kyuubi. if a reputation is based on a lie, its no reputation at all. itachi is as bad as everyone else who's made the naruto world a world of lies. that kind of bullshit corrupted kisame. theres no reason to hide the fact that a known bloodthirsty clan made their suspicions reality. i mean i doubt the village thought they got segregated for no reason. exposing treachery is their goddamn job. they can still pin it all on itachi but hiding the coup plans is a betrayal despite itachi supposedly loving konoha. yet he cant even love them enough to tell them the truth.

    umm you do know he was a double agent for konaha so he never actually betrayed THE LEAF VILLAGE RIGHT
    he betrayed konoha the moment he slaughtered its citizens. uchihas hadnt hurt anyone but for that they deserve to be ruthlessly butchered. ok...why again is this a village not worth betraying? and he left while claiming he killed everyone and didnt even bother to mention his accomplice. telling everyone madara did it could have saved thousands of innocent lives. being an actual spy in akatsuki without revealing his alllegience to obito seconds after meeting him would save lives. warning the jinchuriki and helping them escape saves lives. but itachi did none of this because hes evil and a sociopath. he betrayed them the moment he left and disobeyed their rules for punishing traitors.

    ...He did not only care about dying he just wanted sasuke to kill him so he could set sasuke up to be a hero
    then thats his own idiocy. sasuke was a criminal who betrayed konoha and joined an s-class tyrant who killed the third. but did itachi avenge the guy who protected his bro? nope. he prefers to butcher children instead of real threats. and sasuke wouldnt be a hero. if he went back hed be treated even worse than naruto was because his crimes were of his own choice. minato wanted naruto to be seen as a hero but did konoha listen? obviously not. itachi doesnt even understand his own village nor follow its rules. if he cared about konoha hed have turned himself in and let them be the heroes.
    sasuke could have been a hero based on actions that WERENT a lie. but itachi is selfish and wants more lies to pollute the shinobi world.

    everything he did was just an awesome act to fool people into believeing he was evil..
    guess what? it fukin worked. he is evil.

    he did not order kisame to kill kakashi only to kidnap him
    false. read the manga. and if he was kidnapped, wtf do you think would happen? mindrape, info about konoha given to her enemies, and finally death. only much slower.

    he was not truly trying to catch naruto
    kisame was. and itachi made no effort at all to restrain him.

    Agreed. Itachi was always thinking about his village and his little brother
    yeah how to corrupt and lie to them and help destroy them

    Sasuke has done many things purely for his own lust for power and blind revenge.
    and itachi has done many things purely for his own lust for torturing and mindraping small children and blind "justice" with which he uses to butcher children and shove a sword in his mothers heart. itachi = tousen. sasuke = arlong. thats how i see them. itachi was a brutal racist psychopath who selfishly corrupted and tortured kids.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi double standards

    either itachi kill the uchiha clan or danzo would along with his sasuke besides the uchiha would do the coup anyways
    time was running out
    and you don't see a war of civil war thanks to itachi
     
         

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