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    [Theory] Explanation of Haki

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    Ha and Ki together translates as "Aura of Dominance"
    However Aura is only 1 of many translations of Ki.
    Ki can be translated as "Air", "breathe", "life force", or "spirit"

    So it can also mean "Spirit of Dominance" or "Dominating Spirit".
    Or "Terrifying Life Force", "Air (aura) of Dominance/Fear (remember Zoro's breathing right before he created Asura, which can be Haki - Air/Breath (aura) of Fear/Terror)


    If you read this and blend it into one, you can get a well-rounded understanding of what Haki is in real life philosophy and how Oda applies it in One Piece.

    Source: Animesuki Forums
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    Originally Posted by C.A.
    Hmmm I don't come over to this subforum much but I'm an up to date follower of One Piece manga. I do have something to say about Haki.

    To the western world Haki is something that's not properly understood, even in this thread. Simply because there's no single word that describes Haki well enough. But to us East Asians, Japanese and Chinese, the words Haki is an instantly understood term. It is a term that is Asian in origin and loosely phrased and understood in the Western world.

    What Haki really is and means:

    The words Ha and Ki, meaning 'dominate' and 'air'. Together you can make out something like 'air of dominance/atmosphere of fear' or better phrased, 'Aura of dominance/supremacy' or 'Aura of fear/terror'....
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    ...You can't really train yourself to just have Haki, it does not happen by itself or just suddenly. When you train yourself to become stronger or over time have attained some form of aggression, Haki will come along. It is something that builds up over experience and time and can be activated at will. But it can also be something that happens involutarily, examples of Haki in various forms:

    A large wrestler say, 'The Rock'. If you, as a normal person stands in the ring and he is about to charge towards you, or just staring hard at you, you will be pretty much in fear. But once he puts on some clothes and goes off stage and becomes friendly, even the kids can approach him easily for an autograph.

    Your pet dog is a cute and lovable family member, but if anyone trys to snatch its food bowl it will bark ferociously baring its teeth. Even you yourself would be quite fearful.

    Those are examples of actively expressing Haki physically through appearance and facial expression.

    Examples of involutary Haki:

    An infamous gangster that has been jailed for years but still remembered by people for his doings. He was known to have beaten several people to a bloody pulp before getting into jail, but since then he has already turned over a new leaf. He walks on the street trying to be friendly but people just turns silent wherever he goes, simply because they know he was a violent criminal.

    No matter how tame a lion or a bear is, it is a wild animal and for that we are wary even if they are circus animals dressed in frilly costumes. You would have fear to approach them to take pictures even if they are chained and in cages.
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    In One Piece Haki is basically much the same, the amplification of fear. Though we've seen its effects with much more extreme results. Like Shanks making people fear him so much that they foam from their own fear. And Rayleigh demonstrating how you can spread fear to others but at the same time not to people who you are not hostile towards.

    So Haki cutting the sky into two? No, its not their Haki, its just the pure power, the power of them clashing.

    Haki flinching Logias? Plausible, if someone could perform an action or expression that can instill enough fear, Logias could literally solidfy in their tracks.
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    About Zoro: I agree on parts where it is a manifestation of his Haki or rather Sakki(killing intent). Sakki is another form of Haki that is also very common in Eastern manga, Akuma and Evil Ryu is famous for their Sakki. Shun Goku Satsu is an attack that uses their Sakki to strike terror into the opponent, render them helpless and allows Akuma to unleash a killing combo. Sakki is a much darker form of Haki, it does not spread just fear of the individual, but fear that they may be killed.

    Zoro's Asura strikes fear into the opponent messing up their minds and together with his incredibly fast movements, creates an illusion where he suddenly gains extra heads and limbs like the demon Asura himself.
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    heh? i thought haki meant killing aura ( literally translated) .
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    That's Sakki, here's the kanji for both terms:

    覇気
    (はき) (haki): Aura of fear/dominance. The word '覇', means dominance, ruling over others, supremacy.

    殺気
    (さっき) (sakki): Killing aura. The word '殺', means kill.

    Zoro's Asura turning Rankyaku into mist may also be the effect of him grasping the 'breath' of the air blades and he slices through them.

    The concept of breath, '呼吸' ( こきゅう) (kokyuu), which literally does mean breath or breathing, is closely related to ki '気' (き). Ki means mood, spirit and can also be air.

    The involuntary action of breathing is a frequency that happens within you, you can say its the frequency of your life, your spirit. In eastern belief, Ki exists in all things, but it doesn't mean that everything breathes in air. But rather everything has a frequency in them, a frequency of their spirit. In One Piece they call this frequency the breath of all things.

    You can transfer Ki from one body to another, from one object to another. In this form, Ki becomes energy, it is also the energy that exists in all things. The spirit of all things is their inherent energy. When you fan the air, you transfer energy from your hand to the fan and into the wind, making a breeze. When you fan really hard, you'll need to breathe harder.

    If you can control your breath, you can control your energy and release them as powers under your control. In One Piece its just that these characters as so powerful, they can do amazing stuff with their Ki, the energy they have in them. Like kicking air into a Rankyaku.

    As all things have a frequency in them, it means they have a resonant frequency. If you can adjust your frequency to their frequencies, you become a counter to them and you can cause it to act in your will. All things have different frequencies, so you can't use the frequency of slicing a piece of leaf to slice rock, the same other way round. Something that Zoro was supposed to understand and demonstrate.

    And also like I mentioned above, Ki is also mood. When you're angry you breathe harder, when you're happy you breathe faster, when you're sad you have weak breaths. So a powerful fighter must be able to control his mood, his ki, so that he can control his power. Can you imagine for yourself what kind of ki, breathing you have when you're expressing Haki and Sakki?
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    lol I just love explaining seemingly 'magical' or 'unreal' stuff and making sense of them and literally sound correct. I just hope that you guys understand what I'm trying to say lol

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    idk if som1 said this but how would haki work on aokiji if he is already hard because doesnt haki just harden things so aokiji would just freeze them like he did luffy soooo idont think haki wuld work on him
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    That's a very wrong impression of Haki you have there.

    I'll explain again. Haki very generally means an aura of intimidation or fear or domination over others.

    When one is fearsome, dangerous or intimidating enough it will cause fear and intimdation in his opponent. Making his opponent perform less than he usually does. Someone like Rayleigh with a deadly reputation as first mate of Gol D Roger, is intimidating enough to even cause Kizaru to perform badly. Perhaps the act of logias transforming into their element upon contact is actually a voluntary action that must be activated precisely. And because its precise, Kizaru in his shaken state fighting Rayleigh doesn't allow him to perform such an action.

    When you are in fear, your judgement and accuracy drops, you become less effective than normal. If you're even more in fear, you may even pass out from it, like those on White Beard's ship who saw Shanks and also those in the Auction who Rayleigh knocked out.

    If someone is such a beast, to even make Aokiji lose his cool, he may actually get beaten up.
    HAKI and The EFFECTS on Logia

    Source: Animesuki Forums
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    Haki is as explained by C.A. is a manifestation of ones will or Spirit, Spirit Power, as seen in tons of video games, Flames in Hitman Reborn, Nen in Hunter x Hunter, Chakra in Naruto, and etc., are all based around the same principles or similar concepts but used differently to give them a unique feel or use in their respective creations. However it doesn't change the fact in all the different games and manga, the common element is that its a form for power or energy. And if you clash two Energies against each other, you cause a reaction, if one energy is vastly superior it will "blow away the other" as if two people with bats aim to strike at the same time at each others bats, the stronger one will dominate the other because he will produce more energy into the swing. So when attacks with Haki meets up against a Logia user's in their elemental form (immune to physical attacks) it creates a clash of energies, its not the "attack itself" that hurts the Logia user, but the Haki in the attack. So its quite different from Blackbeards fruit that "negates" the ability much like seastones. Haki however creates "sparks or clashes" of energy. And this again harms the Logia user because its the Logia user's body that becomes the "focus point" for the energy clash.

    This theory holds a lot of weight based on the most recent chapter by this posts creation (Chapter 519) where the two younger Boa sister's is capable of inflicting Physical/Blunt attacks that directly harms Luffy's rubber body. This is because these attacks that does this damage is imbued with Haki, this means that the Haki in the attacks directly harms the target even if a fruit power would naturally make the person immune to it. Rayleigh's fight against the Admiral on the Archipelago also indicates or more accurately proves that Haki based attacks is capable of clashing with Logia user's. But its not like Haki removes the fruit abilities, it just allows a method of harming the Logia user. But attacks with Haki also becomes naturally stronger against Non Logia opponents, the Arrows fired by the Kuja proves this fact as they become much stronger and Margaret also explains that its only natural for attacks imbued with Haki. If we piece together these information that has been presented to us so far regarding Haki, we get the general direction on how and why Logia user's aren't the "Most Dominate" while they have the strongest power-ups in their fruits, they have a natural enemies on the "higher stages" that limits their value, its like Logia instantly boosts you from level 1 to 70, but with still a lot of levels 70+ around and that Logia fruits are so rare since there is a more distinct limit to amount of Elements it creates the reason why Logia user's arent the "strongest around", that their insanely strong, naturally, is a given. But it adds a enemies to Logia user's alongside their Natural Enemies/Opposing Elements or Seastones that is harder to avoid in battle.

    And other reason why Haki can harm Logia "Its a plot device needed at this point of time due to the Straw Hats distinct inability to deal with a now growing range of Logia user's around them. 2 Admirals and 1 Commander with Logia has already gone up against them which they are unable to fight. There is also Blackbeard while he takes physical damage he can negate other fruits so a other form for attack that doesn't rely on fruits is needed here. And then we have seen Crocodile, Enel and Ace as 3 other Logia user's. And there are still a few possibilities left for Logia types they can encounter in the New World, Haki presents the crew with a Method of fighting these enemies thats sure to come and acting as the natural buffer, and its not sudden either just well hidden in the manga so far. This indicates its something planed from the start to act as a natural power-up at the very least for Luffy, but also likely some more of his crew.

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    Actually what you said about giving unique feels to the energies and lifeforces is quite true lol

    But Oda using Haki as it fundamentally works, makes the story more down to earth. Its a competition based on will and just will alone, not amazing energy sources that seem to come out of nowhere. Its basically who has the stronger will wins and it shows how strong mentally and how determined the characters are. Its a powerup 'system' that develops with character and not just an energy source that can be acquired out of nowhere.

    And 'imbue' is a nice word to use for Haki based attacks. When you put enough will into an attack, be sure of it and give it your all, you will hit that opponent well and hard, because you wanted to do that and made sure you did it. If you have doubts of your own abilities, you will not be putting your absolute best, giving your opponents that chance to escape.

    When Kizaru fought with Rayleigh, its the best example so far of will vs will. Rayleigh being saw upon by Kizaru as weaker than his prime, is experiencing Kizaru's will against him. But Rayleigh stated, he will not let Kizaru get the Strawhats no matter what, again he's displaying his opposing will. The scene is also brilliantly set up by Oda as a 'Sabre-lock', the locking of swords. In such a situation, both parties have to resist against each other, the one who softens and lets go will get sliced. One who does not have the will and determination to hang on will lose, contest of wills.
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    Yes, Haki itself is not rare, its Haki which had grown in people to be strong enough to be harnessed into a powerful force, that's rare.

    And even rarer, is Haki as strong as Luffy's, which from the million's of Haki that can be used as an energy source, is most powerful.
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    Well here's how I view the strength of Haki:

    People can be strong or weak willed. There are people who are stubborn, people who are strong in their opinions, people who are very determined in their ways. There's also people who are easily swayed, choose to avoid than to face problems, do not like competition and thus avoid, also there are people who give up easily.

    These different characters with different strengths in their wills, give them Haki of different strengths.

    Then there's also other factors, such as their driving force.

    People have different dreams and ambitions. If one only wants to enjoy peace by living a simple life, there's no need for an extremely strong will. If one wants to be extremely successful in life and wants the best, he gives his all to achieve that and has a strong will.

    Then there's alternatives. If one lives in a chaotic environment, but all he wants is a peaceful and simple life, he will fight with all his will to get out of the chaos. If one only dreams of having a luxurious life, but he is lazy, he has a weak will and thus will most likely not achieve the dream.

    The concept of Haki allows characters to be strong or weak based on their characters, interaction with others, upbringing and environments.
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    Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma
    Haki - The ambition, willpower, drive, and vigor that all individuals possess in different degrees. It is the impetus that allows one to persevere, and thus, overcome nearly anything depending on its magnitude/level.
     
         
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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    yup.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki


    But I understand.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    who doesn't know,trying to reach Hottest thread.heh..I C YA..:D..
    This Thread is irrelevant cus we already know what haki is..lol
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    Quote Originally Posted by SAmIDeXtEr View Post
    who doesn't know,trying to reach Hottest thread.heh..I C YA..:D..
    This Thread is irrelevant cus we already know what haki is..lol
    in reeal life you know what it is?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    just readed half but its a good one. *****
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    Haki is a Willpower and it's willpower has been used not only in One Piece. I pretty much know what it stands for and it kinda even works in REAL LIFE :D
     
         

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    Re: [Theory] Explanation of Haki

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    Haki is a Willpower and it's willpower has been used not only in One Piece. I pretty much know what it stands for and it kinda even works in REAL LIFE :D
    i know thats what i was trying to say make it sense in real life aswell as one piece by the way all the 3 hakis are possible
    colour of observation-train with a blindfold and dogde things say your brother threw rocks at you.
    Invisible sheild- well this sounds impossbile and i think it kinda is impossible but if you think hard enought it might be possible cause it might be linked with oh yh it is possible it is the so called iron fist that sholin monks use or like luffy with his armored hand lol you learn how to use your cells on your hands to hard as hard as steel.
    Kings haki- this is virtually impossible because how do you make somebody faint by making them soooo scared they faint the only way to do that is by changing in a super scary form which can either scare you to death or make you made also the intent of killing like zoro did to monet lol she craped bricks mentally
     
         

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