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    Re: What the hell and why?

    I agree with you. There are many things Naruto manga offers....And deep inside Kishi is trying to convey message to fans.....
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    If having an obsession with this story is the only way to understand its true depth, then I accept that obsession.
    I'm not saying that, I can understand it just fine without a certain level of obsession. It's nothing to get mad about that people really just don't want to talk about their personal lives and how it's affected by a manga.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    It's a wonderful anime with a nice message, but at the end of the day, it's still just an anime. Nothing to get too worked up over about. Instead of following fake characters from a story, follow real people who actually existed. MLK, Ghandi, Jesus. I'm not saying just totally ignore Kishi's message because it's a great message, but don't get riled if others don't see it the same way.
    Ha! you say it as if there is only one message!

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    What does Naruto offer from a "Political" standpoint?
    All Danzo ever was in this anime was a politician. He was also a raging dictator who thankfully never got his way and actually got what he deserved at Sasukes hand. Homura and Koharu, all they offer is politics all the fukking time.

    Sand alliance with sound, politics

    Danzos amatsukami on Mifune, politics

    Keeping the jinchuuriki confined, politics
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    What's the difference between a fan and a "true" fan of something? The person who appoints themselves "true" fans have superiority conflicts with "regular" fans. Thank God we all don't behave like true fans.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Some people just can't understand the meaning behind something. Don't put me down they are just ignorant to the true meaning behind things. And people come on the forums to discuss and talk about everything naruto, so if they decide to make top 10 and all that then let them, if you don't like it or it makes you angry then either don read it or get over it. Is is a place to come and share ideas no bash others for their views.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by CurseSealofEarth View Post
    I'm not saying that, I can understand it just fine
    That is laughable
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by leggomynecro View Post
    What's the difference between a fan and a "true" fan of something? The person who appoints themselves "true" fans have superiority conflicts with "regular" fans. Thank God we all don't behave like true fans.
    Not true, I didn't think most people here were idiots when I first joined here. I actually wanted to talk about all the different POVs in this anime, that is just the opinion I developed over time. And you're wrong!
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    What the hell is the message?? But what are we sposed to talk about.how.Naruto can make the world a better place
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Thus far, you have proven me right. Just saying.....
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    What the hell is the message?? But what are we sposed to talk about.how.Naruto can make the world a better place
    I think I'm my eyes the message is that with true desire and true determination one can accomplish anything. When you really want something out your heart into it and give it your all and in the end you will be happier knowing you gave it your all then just giving up. Naruto teaches that just because you do bad things doesn't mean your bad, but sometimes you make bad decisions.
     
         

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    That is laughable
    Ha and once again you come here thinking that Kishi made this manga for you specifically, and you're the only one that can really understand it. Get off your high horse and come mingle with the people that just try to enjoy the ride.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Believe me, I have learned many many things from Naruto. I grew up watching Naruto. Since childhood I have this never back down spirit and confidence in myself. Watching Naruto, I felt encouraged. I knew about the true meaning of friendship, about love and hatred, how this world works and what I should do.

    Like Naruto, I have a huge dream to conquer and I do believe that I will achieve that someday. Yeah there might come hardships, people might not believe me but I don't care cause there is something more important then the method, It's the power to believe in it.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollnojutsu View Post
    I think I'm my eyes the message is that with true desire and true determination one can accomplish anything. When you really want something out your heart into it and give it your all and in the end you will be happier knowing you gave it your all then just giving up. Naruto teaches that just because you do bad things doesn't mean your bad, but sometimes you make bad decisions.
    Orochimaru, Pain, Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Obito, Itachi, young Neji, Gai, Jiraiya.....all these people carry a different perspective and message. Do you even know what those are? Or better yet....do you even care?
     
         
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed Prince View Post
    What the hell is the message?? But what are we sposed to talk about.how.Naruto can make the world a better place
    You know you sound like Inoichi talking to Naruto just before he left to see Nagato. Do you see the resemblance?
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    Orochimaru, Pain, Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, Obito, Itachi, young Neji, Gai, Jiraiya.....all these people carry a different perspective and message. D you're even know what those are?
    In fact I do but since the manga is called naruto and the show in basically centered around him, the main message is what I get from him which is everything I stated before. Your right it can be taken from so many different perspectives but I went from the point of view of the main character. And pain, had good intentions at heart but gave his life when he saw that there was a different way of doing this, he hoped to attain his dream of peace and realized that it could be achieved through naruto. Also obits is not exactly a bad person just misguided, he could have chosen a different path had he not met madara. Itachi did everything he could to protect sasuke, that was his goal, so while he did fail he gave it his all and in the end probably felt better about himself for doing everything he could than not trying at all. But please go on and tell me how my opinion is just flat out wrong again, I can see you have grown since your I'm in love with tsunade thread where I tried to help you. And for that your welcome now kindly stop trying to troll me, I do not appreciate it.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollnojutsu View Post
    In fact I do but since the manga is called naruto and the show in basically centered around him, the main message is what I get from him which is everything I stated before. Your right it can be taken from so many different perspectives but I went from the point of view of the main character. And pain, had good intentions at heart but gave his life when he saw that there was a different way of doing this, he hoped to attain his dream of peace and realized that it could be achieved through naruto. Also obits is not exactly a bad person just misguided, he could have chosen a different path had he not met madara. Itachi did everything he could to protect sasuke, that was his goal, so while he did fail he gave it his all and in the end probably felt better about himself for doing everything he could than not trying at all. But please go on and tell me how my opinion is just flat out wrong again, I can see you have grown since your I'm in love with tsunade thread where I tried to help you. And for that your welcome now kindly stop trying to troll me, I do not appreciate it.
    So much fail. You might think they are misguided or that they failed or that there is only one main message, that is just your own perspective, do you see that? Remember Itachi's speech about reality?

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    Ha and once again you come here thinking that Kishi made this manga for you specifically, and you're the only one that can really understand it. Get off your high horse and come mingle with the people that just try to enjoy the ride.
    I believe that only a few people can understand the true depth of this story and it's not everyone's cup of tea, you're right in that respect.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    So much fail. You might think they are misguided or that they failed or that there is only one main message, that is just your own perspective, do you see that? Remember Itachi's speech about reality?



    I believe that only a few people can understand the true depth of this story and it's not everyone's cup of tea, you're right in that respect.
    I believe I said that there are many perspectives that one could go from to come up with a message in the manga, I simply said that I went with the main characters point of view and message, please actually read my post before you try and talk down on me. If you had actually read then you would understand what I had to say. Nice attempt, but much so fail coming from your direction. My opinion is based on what I perceive to be the message I get from the manga, it will not be the same as everyone else's, and some people might disagree but I did state that it was my perception of the manga. So Thank you come again.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollnojutsu View Post
    I believe I said that there are many perspectives that one could go from to come up with a message in the manga, I simply said that I went with the main characters point of view and message, please actually read my post before you try and talk down on me. If you had actually read then you would understand what I had to say. Nice attempt, but much so fail coming from your direction. My opinion is based on what I perceive to be the message I get from the manga, it will not be the same as everyone else's, and some people might disagree but I did state that it was my perception of the manga. So Thank you come again.
    Right...so Obito is misguided is really just your opinion, is what you're saying, ok...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    Not true, I didn't think most people here were idiots when I first joined here. I actually wanted to talk about all the different POVs in this anime, that is just the opinion I developed over time. And you're wrong!

    True depth?

    You cannot even see how accurate my assessment of your position is. Continue acting out like I predicted proving me correct.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    Right...so Obito is misguided is really just your opinion, is what you're saying, ok...
    Yes it is, some people might think that he is on a path which suites him, or that its the right path for him to take, but I believe something different. I'm sorry I didn't know I wasn't entitled to a logical opinion. Now please tell me how your so right and all knowing, oh wait that's right, you just try and troll everyone on the forums and make yourself look like a fool. Please come back to me with some also able attempt and grammar. Maybe this time you can add some type of logical thinking before you regurgitate your posts.
     
         

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