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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Kishimoto himself?! I never hated her, actually I don't hate anyone except for Danzo, but I never noticed that about her until today!
    Yes, it was one of his interviews.
    She is meant to represent human weakness along with Lee and he said that out of all characters he is fond of her because she has the most developed human part out of them all.

    Well, it's not easy to perceive these things if you don't know how human psyche works and aspects and traits of the human personalities. As I said, she is a complex character that's why I understand why most of the people don't understand her character, however to hate her for that it's too far-fetched.

    How can you hate something you don't understand?

    But anyway.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Yes, it was one of his interviews.
    She is meant to represent human weakness along with Lee and he said that out of all characters he is fond of her because she has the most developed human part out of them all.

    Well, it's not easy to perceive these things if you don't know how human psyche works and aspects and traits of the human personalities. As I said, she is a complex character that's why I understand why most of the people don't understand her character, however to hate her for that it's too far-fetched.

    How can you hate something you don't understand?

    But anyway.
    Yeah....I guess she was too complex for me. Thanks again for the enlightenment!
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    I agree with you. There are many things Naruto manga offers....And deep inside Kishi is trying to convey message to fans.....
    What game is that sig from?
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Yeah....I guess she was too complex for me. Thanks again for the enlightenment!
    You're welcome!

    Glad that you made this thread, really.

    There is so much to Naruto than these flashy power-ups.

    That's why I got to Naruto in the first place...

    Not for the powers or stuff like this. Things like these you can see wherever you want.

    But plots and hidden messages like in Naruto, rarely.

    I wish people understood more of the manga they're reading, heh.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    I really don't know if you are a troll or just have an unhealthy obsession with the anime...
    haha i was thinking the same thing.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    well you said it not very politly either eh...
    oh well somone had to...
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Are people really that dull? Naruto has so much to offer! From a philosophical, political and spiritual standpoint, and yet all you people talk about is who is top 5 and who is top 20 all the damn time!

    Is that the only thing you see in this anime?
    Thanks. Finally somebody gets it. Not only that point, but people forget Naruto's the main character of course in the end he'll win.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    You're welcome!

    Glad that you made this thread, really.

    There is so much to Naruto than these flashy power-ups.

    That's why I got to Naruto in the first place...

    Not for the powers or stuff like this. Things like these you can see wherever you want.

    But plots and hidden messages like in Naruto, rarely.

    I wish people understood more of the manga they're reading, heh.
    Yeah like how Inzanami, Inzanagi, Susanoo, Ameterasu, and Tsukiyumi are all Gods from Japanese folk lore, and Inzanagi is married to Inzanami his sister/wife. Inzanami dies, but Inzanagi tries to save her from the underworld but fails. Then he washes his face creating his children Susanoo the god of summer storms, Ameterasu the god of the sun, and Tsukiyumi the god of the moon which becomes his left eye. Kinda like how Sasuke is the only Uchiha who contains a powerful genjutsu (Tsukiyumi) in his left eye, and a powerful taijutsu (Ameterasu) on the right. He's the only Uchiha whom has this for all the others it's the opposite. So in a way Kishimoto is comparing Sasuke to Inzanagi.
     
         
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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Yeah like how Inzanami, Inzanagi, Susanoo, Ameterasu, and Tsukiyumi are all Gods from Japanese folk lore, and Inzanagi is married to Inzanami his sister/wife. Inzanami dies, but Inzanagi tries to save her from the underworld but fails. Then he washes his face creating his children Susanoo the god of summer storms, Ameterasu the god of the sun, and Tsukiyumi the god of the moon which becomes his left eye. Kinda like how Sasuke is the only Uchiha who contains a powerful genjutsu (Tsukiyumi) in his left eye, and a powerful taijutsu (Ameterasu) on the right. He's the only Uchiha whom has this for all the others it's the opposite. So in a way Kishimoto is comparing Sasuke to Inzanagi.
    Yeah, I know that, these are inspirations from Japanese tales, but it's more about this manga than this.

    Also, the Naruto vs. Sasuke parallel can also be considered besides the biblical comparison with Cain and Abel, the whole thing with werewolves (Naruto) vs. vampires (Sasuke).

    Not to mention that the biggest message this manga holds is human emotions and struggle with life in a way or another.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Yeah like how Inzanami, Inzanagi, Susanoo, Ameterasu, and Tsukiyumi are all Gods from Japanese folk lore, and Inzanagi is married to Inzanami his sister/wife. Inzanami dies, but Inzanagi tries to save her from the underworld but fails. Then he washes his face creating his children Susanoo the god of summer storms, Ameterasu the god of the sun, and Tsukiyumi the god of the moon which becomes his left eye. Kinda like how Sasuke is the only Uchiha who contains a powerful genjutsu (Tsukiyumi) in his left eye, and a powerful taijutsu (Ameterasu) on the right. He's the only Uchiha whom has this for all the others it's the opposite. So in a way Kishimoto is comparing Sasuke to Inzanagi.
    Actually, you should read Varrahs latest thread....and you will understand everything.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=256409
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Actually, you should read Varrahs latest thread....and you will understand it fully.
    True, true, Varrah makes some quality threads.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    True, true, Varrah makes some quality threads.
    Yup
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    I have been reading naruto for more than five years. You can see that I joined narutobase in 2008. I have seen many pointless threads made one of them being "vs" thread that never happened in naruto manga or will not happen. Those threads are open to anyone's point of view and discretion but can never be a fact or proven. The other popular thread is "ranking" thread.

    But there has also been good threads made like yours. Yours is good because like many real naruto readers, they see naruto as more than it is. It's not just one thing or the other. Naruto is very complex and best anime I have read in years.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    I left the forum now 2 or 3 weeks but I read this topic of yours and the comments and I'm glad to see that there are still REAL Naruto Fans in this world, Yes ! I said "REAL", and I'll say it again because Naruto fans are the people that love it because of what it is and everything it has to offer, and because there's a HUGE difference between anime watchers/manga readers and fans.
    I watched some of Naruto Season 1 episodes at the TV and for me it seemed to be a decent anime, nothing special... But one day I discovered from a website that there's also Naruto Shippuden so I decided to give it a try. The first 200 episodes were already out so I watched them like 10 episodes a day, I enjoyed every minute, I didn't know what's a filler, or even a flashback, I didn't know what is a plothole and even who was the writer of Naruto, I didn't care of anything but the story. When I finished seeing all the episodes I began reading the manga and then I entered the NarutoFanBase without knowing what kind of people are in it, and I really wish I hadn't... But from everything we experience we can learn something, and from becoming a part of the NarutoFanBase I realized that people misunderstand, label, disrespect, invent and come up with things which do not exist and blame the wrong person, don't care about the true, the emotional things and mostly look up for high quality animation and fights. Let me say something:
    F**k the awesome fights, cuz I've seen enough, f**k the high quality animation cuz I can leave without it, f**k the fact that you think the story is badly written or that the writer is bad at doing his/her job... Let me talk "trash" and say that I strongly believe that the humanity got rid of the World Wars, but the war, the true war, the war inside each one of us will never end, maybe just when we will die.
    All my respect goes to Masashi Kishimoto because he tries to enlighten the mind, open the eyes of our young generation and tries to help us understand and experience a little bit of the difficulties and tragedies of the life. We need more people like Kishi but unfortunately I believe that there are very few and will be fewer in the future, but thank you Kishimoto, for me you've been and are a parent that taught me more than my real parents did. Thank you Kishimoto...
     
         
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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    You're right.....I love all of those! I will read them all thoroughly and reply soon.
    You never replied to them

    And to anyone who reads this thread and is looking for stuff like this check out this shameless thread promotion on my part

    Genius of Kishi - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=274857
    Sasuke's fate - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=273438
    Kishi loves Gandhi - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=270518
    Deeper meaning to Edo Tensei - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=270342
    Rinnegan vs Sharingan perspectives - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=270361
    Naruto's ending - http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=270291
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    I left the forum now 2 or 3 weeks but I read this topic of yours and the comments and I'm glad to see that there are still REAL Naruto Fans in this world, Yes ! I said "REAL", and I'll say it again because Naruto fans are the people that love it because of of what it is and everything it has to offer, and because there's a HUGE difference between anime watchers/manga readers and fans.
    I watched some of Naruto Season 1 episodes at the TV and for me it seemed to be a decent anime, nothing special... But one day I discovered from a website that there's also Naruto Shippuden so I decided to give it a try. The first 200 episodes were already out so I watched them like 10 episodes a day, I enjoyed every minute, I didn't know what's a filler, or even a flashback, I didn't know what is a plothole and even who was the writer of Naruto, I didn't care of anything but the story. When I finished seeing all the episodes I began reading the manga and then I entered the NarutoFanBase without knowing what kind of people are in it, and I really wish I hadn't... But from everything we experience we can learn something, and from becoming a part of the NarutoFanBase I realized that people misunderstand, label, disrespect, invent and come up with things which do not exist and blame the wrong person, don't care about the true, the emotional things and mostly look up for high quality animation and fights. Let me say something:
    F**k the awesome fights, cuz I've seen enough, f**k the high quality animation cuz I can leave without it, f**k if you think the story is bad written or that the writer is bad at doing his/her job... Let me talk "trash" and say that I strongly believe that the humanity got rid of the World Wars, but the war, the true war, the war inside each one of us will never end, maybe just when we will die.
    All my respect goes to Masashi Kishimoto because he tries to enlighten the mind, open the eyes of our young generation and tries to help us understand and experience a little bit of the difficulties and tragedies of the life. We need more people like Kishi but unfortunately I believe that there are very few and will be fewer in the future, but thank you Kishimoto, for me you've been and are a parent that taught me more than my real parents did. Thank you Kishimoto...
    You fukking said it man! Don't think there will be more like him though, some people just don't understand the depth and beauty of it, its sad but what are you gonna do? In the end you just have to adhere to Itachis speech about reality, there is no other choice.

    But I am so glad that there is someone who thinks exactly in the same way that I do! Awesome!
     
         
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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Philosophy? Fu*k no, all I want from Naruto is to see some destruction and get some laughter , and all the people getting so deeply moved by a freakin manga can kiss my a$$!
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    I agree however top 10 and V threads seem to be popular because there are a vast amount of opinions which keep the threads going...

    It's more of less a never ending conversation that will continue to go on.

    If you fell that way bro, you should make some threads about it, i would be happy to read.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Well for me I always look at the bigger picture as to what the message the author wants to convey... At the same tie, top 5's and 20's are all part of the fun as well. To compare the characters strength and weaknesses. What would naruto be without intense battles and dangerous situations? A soap opera...but I get where you are coming from. And also there might be a differance in terms of age beteween members. Idk.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Yeah, I know that, these are inspirations from Japanese tales, but it's more about this manga than this.

    Also, the Naruto vs. Sasuke parallel can also be considered besides the biblical comparison with Cain and Abel, the whole thing with werewolves (Naruto) vs. vampires (Sasuke).

    Not to mention that the biggest message this manga holds is human emotions and struggle with life in a way or another.
    Yeah Naruto along with a lot of other manga gets pretty deep. Not on only and emotional level but on others. Such as what I had said. It's pretty neat how Kishimoto implants all these things in the story the people breeze right by.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    your the man great point. everyone on this site is 14 i think. so they cant see the true deep messages. only my fav is stronger than your fav vs threads. not everyone but 85 % of kids on here .. great thread
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Are people really that dull? Naruto has so much to offer! From a philosophical, political and spiritual standpoint


    If Naruto were my philosophical or spritual reading, I'd be a nihilist.

    Shame on you.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

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    Philosophy? Fu*k no, all I want from Naruto is to see some destruction and get some laughter , and all the people getting so deeply moved by a freakin manga can kiss my a$$!
    And you can go and *****slap yourself.
    Sometimes, I do regret I have come into contact with the fandom.
    Like Coderack said, before knowing about the fandom and getting in contact with it, Naruto was much more appealing and intense.
    Now you just see hate here and there because some are not understanding that Naruto it's just more than flashy fights.
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    people are too lazy to talk about this manga or anything in general with a more philosophical or spiritual nature. Kishi is a very smart guy and a very wise one too, this is the ideal show (morally) that should be shown too younger generations and maybe we would see some better people in the world.

    i would love to write a philosophy paper or religions paper on the parallels this anime serves to real life. itd be amazing!
     
         

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    Re: What the hell and why?

    theres a good neopolitan type selection of posts. you can talk to people in everything you said naruto has to offer conversation wise. on narutobase. open your eyes and participate in a thread you like. or make a thread your self. not like this bothersome...saying why aint people talkin about that. right now were talkin in one of those i dont even know im high threads'
    or atleast i am : )
     
         

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