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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    You forget there are two kinds of elite, the hard-working types and the natural born geniuses.

    Natural born: Sasuke, Minato, Itachi, Minato, Kakashi, neji

    Hard working: Naruto, Lee, obito, nagato without the rinnegan he would be nothing plus it was not naturally his he had to suffer and work to become that good with it
    And scientific geniuses Orochimaru, Kabuto, etc. The fact is there was some shinobi who have been called geniuses in the series, though they possess the intelligence of an average shinobi or a little above, which is what some NB members get confused.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    The sage never created any Ninjutsu. His teachings were termed so. He only created one single Jutsu: Izanagi.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    I found it hard to really listen to anything Naurto says as fact, but welp there you have it.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    ohhohohohoho


    I don't remember the manga callin Naruto a genius, only a moron or idiot. I believe the only reason he was paired with Sasuke cause, he was the dumbest so they had to balance it out with the smartest.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    I found it hard to really listen to anything Naurto says as fact, but welp there you have it.
    That seems more like Kishimoto speaking through Naruto (in order to inform the reader) if anything else.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    That seems more like Kishimoto speaking through Naruto (in order to inform the reader) if anything else.
    That's how I have to interpret anything Naruto says.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    @Noddy Maybe you should read the pages where Madara is talking for better understanding as Naruto knows shit about the sage.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by -Vasto Lorde- View Post
    They're not called Geniuses based on their brains, but based on what they specialize in and how they use it, yes Choji is a Genius in BF mode.
    Exactly why I see it a being pointless to compare and mentions ones intelligence unless they use the same techniques. Intelligence as far smarts (brain) shouldn't be directed towards anyone except shikumaru (which correlates with his ability).
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    I read it. Nothing to add. As you say, Naruto doesn't know much, which is all the more reason to take this as something Kishimoto wants the reader to know.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    lee is a genius of hard work, naruto is a battle genious, shikamaru is a tacticle genious sasuke and neji all around genious, minato boss genious
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    I don't remember the manga callin Naruto a genius, only a moron or idiot. I believe the only reason he was paired with Sasuke cause, he was the dumbest so they had to balance it out with the smartest.
    so it was atmosphere who worked out how Raikage can get killed ?


    or It was allso Global warming that beat Pain ?

    I think i dont remember Water pollution creating an S-rank Jutsu


    Naruto is not a genius on the levels of Itachi,Madara or Minato

    but he is smart , Battle smart
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    lee is a genius of hard work, naruto is a battle genious, shikamaru is a tacticle genious sasuke and neji all around genious, minato boss genious
    As Kakashi said in that image, it has nothing to do with hard work.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    I read it. Nothing to add. As you say, Naruto doesn't know much, which is all the more reason to take this as something Kishimoto wants the reader to know.
    Everything about the sage has been explained by Madara who was the original holder of information about the sage. Naruto here is only throwing things around like he always does. I can't believe anyone would take this seriously after what has been revealed about him by Obito and Madara.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    As Kakashi said in that image, it has nothing to do with hard work.
    I believe Gai said it somewhere in part 1.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    I believe Gai said it somewhere in part 1.
    Maybe, but Kakashi says that that display of ability isn't hard work alone. Though personally this it's all hard work.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    so it was atmosphere who worked out how Raikage can get killed ?


    or It was allso Global warming that beat Pain ?

    I think i dont remember Water pollution creating an S-rank Jutsu


    Naruto is not a genius on the levels of Itachi,Madara or Minato

    but he is smart , Battle smart
    Naruto got Intel from Bee

    Naruto got Intel cause of Jiraiya, then all the help from Gambunta, Ma & pa. Then Kurama saved him.

    Didn't see Naruto create a jutsu without help, like Minato.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    Everything about the sage has been explained by Madara who was the original holder of information about the sage. Naruto here is only throwing things around like he always does. I can't believe anyone would take this seriously after what has been revealed about him by Obito and Madara.
    We never saw what Madara said about the Sage [1]. His only reference to the Rikudō no jutsu was when he said he would teach Obito the techniques [2]. What Naruto said hasn't been countered or contradicted. And the fact that it was said with such assurance (when Naruto has no real basis for saying it) can only lead me to conclude that this was simply the voice of Kishimoto being heard through Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    Naruto got Intel from Bee

    Naruto got Intel cause of Jiraiya, then all the help from Gambunta, Ma & pa. Then Kurama saved him.

    Didn't see Naruto create a jutsu without help, like Minato.
    Well he did master SM faster than anyone else before him

    He may not have created a jutsu, but he's enhanced jutsu beyond belief.
     
         

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    Re: So Who Isn't a Genius in Naruto

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    Naruto got Intel from Bee

    Naruto got Intel cause of Jiraiya, then all the help from Gambunta, Ma & pa. Then Kurama saved him.

    Didn't see Naruto create a jutsu without help, like Minato.
    Naruto got the outcome of the battle - did not get how it happened

    Kurama is part of Naruto's powers , Pain is so6p strong he needed that power and was able to suppress him in the end
    Jiraya said that the real one is not there , There was no Intel on what the powers were

    Rasen Shuriken was created by Naruto - it is an s-ranked Jutsu



    i can say that Sasuke was helped in each battle - just to annoy you , but i wont . Fanboying is not in my repertoire
     
         

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