How Minato Beats Itachi. Scenario.

[Senju Kinko]

how would minato move around so easily with a field full of black flames.

Plus Itachi had the full 411 on Minato techniques ,family, friends and surroundings.

Minato good but he's not winning

[★YellowFlash1]

how would minato move around so easily with a field full of black flames.

Plus Itachi had the full 411 on Minato techniques ,family, friends and surroundings.

Minato good but he's not winning

How does that prove he has the 411 on Minato? It doesn't matter if he did anyway, Raikage knew all of his abilities yet never managed to lang a hit on Minato.

Minato also has the 411 on Itachi since he's been watching from inside naruto.

Minato Is to fast for itachi, Itachi's best attacks are his biggest weaknesses also. itachi would have a hard time dealing with the summons and waste a great amount of the little chakra he has trying to fight them off.

How does he plan on hitting Minato? Minato is known for his intelligence how would he get caught in basic genjutsu considering that Sharingan is common knowledge. You're undermining Minato intelligence and abilities....

He can't physical see of react to minato speed.

[Necromancer4276]

How does that prove he has the 411 on Minato? It doesn't matter if he did anyway, Raikage knew all of his abilities yet never managed to lang a hit on Minato.

Minato also has the 411 on Itachi since he's been watching from inside naruto.

Minato Is to fast for itachi, Itachi's best attacks are his biggest weaknesses also. itachi would have a hard time dealing with the summons and waste a great amount of the little chakra he has trying to fight them off.

How does he plan on hitting Minato? Minato is known for his intelligence how would he get caught in basic genjutsu considering that Sharingan is common knowledge. You're undermining Minato intelligence and abilities....

He can't physical see of react to minato speed.

"The sharingan is basic knowledge" and yet he stared tobi in the eye during their fight just like almost every character except Kakashi, chiyo and guy does when facing the sharingan.

[T Bogard]

"The sharingan is basic knowledge" and yet he stared tobi in the eye during their fight just like almost every character except Kakashi, chiyo and guy does when facing the sharingan.

How can he see Tobi's eye when he was wearing a mask? Team Kakashi was fighting Tobi during a long time ago but never noticed his sharingan. Only Kakashi noticed it smh at the end

[Necromancer4276]

How can he see Tobi's eye when he was wearing a mask? Team Kakashi was fighting Tobi during a long time ago but never noticed his sharingan. Only Kakashi noticed it smh at the end

His assumption that Tobi was madara kind of includes the use of the sharingan does it not?

[Sexy Steel]

How can he see Tobi's eye when he was wearing a mask? Team Kakashi was fighting Tobi during a long time ago but never noticed his sharingan. Only Kakashi noticed it smh at the end

@ bold you just proved that even those with knowlegde still look at the sharingan.

[TrollingSage]

Itachi realistically doesn't even need MS. As minato hasn't shown any ability thus far for noticing or negating genjutsu, once he's caught in one he can be captured easily as itachi's genjutsu requires no eye contact and can mimic the exact surrounding they are already in making it impossible to decipher between genjutsu and reality without dojutsu or special training.

Yes because we all know Kage level ninjas can't break simple sharingan gen jutsu right? Gen jutsu training is not part of routine training for shinobi.

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I'm sorry I had to;

[Necromancer4276]

Yes because we all know Kage level ninjas can't break simple sharingan gen jutsu right? Gen jutsu training is not part of routine training for shinobi.

You can't break a genjutsu you don't know you're in. By the time itachi lets him figure it out he's dead already.

[T Bogard]

His assumption that Tobi was madara kind of includes the use of the sharingan does it not?

Never said he didn't knew he had Sharingan. He did knew it, but what i'm saying is that "nothing proves he saw that sharingan" since Tobi was wearing a mask

[Necromancer4276]

Never said he didn't knew he had Sharingan. He did knew it, but what i'm saying is that "nothing proves he saw that sharingan" since Tobi was wearing a mask

Ahh. I see your point. Sure i'll give you that. It doesn't change the outcome in my opinion though.

[TrollingSage]

You can't break a genjutsu you don't know you're in. By the time itachi lets him figure it out he's dead already.

Thats just wishful thinking.Am pretty sure Itachi will be invincible if he could do that to any ninja without a sharingan.

[Sexy Steel]

Thats just wishful thinking.Am pretty sure Itachi will be invincible if he could do that to any ninja without a sharingan.

itachi vs naruto in part 2, naruto didn't know he was in a genjutsu until itachi made it evident (which was when naruto threw kunais)



same with orochimaru

[Necromancer4276]

Thats just wishful thinking.Am pretty sure Itachi will be invincible if he could do that to any ninja without a sharingan.

Exactly. Why do you think he's won every fight he's been in with his only difficulty against an opponent who was immune to his genjutsu?

Think of it this way. I hope you've seen the Matrix. They subjects do not know they are in the matrix until they are released or someone tells them they are. It's the same with itachi's genjutsu. Against Deidara, Sasuke and Naruto Itachi created a genjutsu in which he recreated the surroundings. Neither Deidara or Naruto knew they were trapped and defeated until Itachi informed them. The only way sasuke knew was because of his sharingan.

[T Bogard]

itachi vs naruto in part 2, naruto didn't know he was in a genjutsu until itachi made it evident (which was when naruto threw kunais)

same with orochimaru

Puting Naruto in a genjutsu is not a great feat. Even Kabuto was able to make him sleep with his genjutsu in part1, same genjutsu who was broken by Sakura and other elite ninjas

[Sexy Steel]

Puting Naruto in a genjutsu is not a great feat. Even Kabuto was able to make him sleep with his genjutsu in part1, same genjutsu who was broken by Sakura and other elite ninjas

not a great feat yet it took 2 others to break out of it ?
just like minato defeating a 16 year old isn't a great feat ?

[T Bogard]

not a great feat yet it took 2 others to break out of it ?
just like minato defeating a 16 year old isn't a great feat ?

Like it also took Sakura to break Kabutos genjutsu in part1, your point?

[Sexy Steel]

Like it also took Sakura to break Kabutos genjutsu in part1, your point?

what you are saying makes no sense
we are talking about itachi genjutsu which took 2 people to break out of it as oppose to kabuto's weak genjutsu. (only 1 person needed)
also put into account that naruto had no defense for genjutsu back then, even with his release of chakra it still took 2 people.

idk why kabuto is in here we are talking about itachi ?

[T Bogard]

what you are saying makes no sense
we are talking about itachi genjutsu which took 2 people to break out of it as oppose to kabuto's weak genjutsu. (only 1 person needed)
also put into account that naruto had no defense for genjutsu back then, even with his release of chakra it still took 2 people.

idk why kabuto is in here we are talking about itachi ?

I take Kabutos genjutsu as an example to show you that puting Naruto in a genjutsu is not a great feat since Kabuto was also able to do so, but the same genjutsu didn't worked against others like Sakura. Naruto was simply not good enough in chakra control to break that. So the fact he put Naruto in a genjutsu doesn't mean he can put another one with it. Jiraya alone was able to break Itachi's genjutsu in part1, the genjutsu he used on a civilian

[Sexy Steel]

I take Kabutos genjutsu as an example to show you that puting Naruto in a genjutsu is not a great feat since Kabuto was also able to do so, but the same genjutsu didn't worked against others like Sakura. Naruto was simply not good enough in chakra control to break that. So the fact he put Naruto in a genjutsu doesn't mean he can put another one with it. Jiraya alone was able to break Itachi's genjutsu in part1, the genjutsu he used on a civilian

now ur making no sense

you are trying to downgrade itachi's genjutsu when the fact that it took intense release of chakra and 2 others to break out of it also naruto didn't know he was in a genjutsu to begin with
as oppose to kabuto's weak genjutsu

[Necromancer4276]

I take Kabutos genjutsu as an example to show you that puting Naruto in a genjutsu is not a great feat since Kabuto was also able to do so, but the same genjutsu didn't worked against others like Sakura. Naruto was simply not good enough in chakra control to break that. So the fact he put Naruto in a genjutsu doesn't mean he can put another one with it. Jiraya alone was able to break Itachi's genjutsu in part1, the genjutsu he used on a civilian

The whole point is that even a hokage can't break a genjutsu he has no idea he is in.

[T Bogard]

now ur making no sense

you are trying to downgrade itachi's genjutsu when the fact that it took intense release of chakra and 2 others to break out of it also naruto didn't know he was in a genjutsu to begin with
as oppose to kabuto's weak genjutsu

Didn't you read the part where i told you that Jiraya alone was able to break his sharingan genjutsu? The number doesn't matter

The whole point is that even a hokage can't break a genjutsu he has no idea he is in.

I don't think he can put a kage level in a genjutsu without him realising he is in

[Sexy Steel]

Didn't you read the part where i told you that Jiraya alone was able to break his sharingan genjutsu? The number doesn't matter

ur assumptions for all you know he used a weaker genjutsu, fact still remains it took 2 others to get him out .

[TrollingSage]

Exactly. Why do you think he's won every fight he's been in with his only difficulty against an opponent who was immune to his genjutsu?

Think of it this way. I hope you've seen the Matrix. They subjects do not know they are in the matrix until they are released or someone tells them they are. It's the same with itachi's genjutsu. Against Deidara, Sasuke and Naruto Itachi created a genjutsu in which he recreated the surroundings. Neither Deidara or Naruto knew they were trapped and defeated until Itachi informed them. The only way sasuke knew was because of his sharingan.

Naruto is an idiot and Deidara is also well an idiot who had never seen the sharingan before he met Itachi. Fact of the matter is any high level ninja will realize they're in a gen jutsu like Jiraiya noticed Itachi's gen jutsu . Stop over playing Itachi's gen jutsu skills. He's the most skillful gen jutsu user in the manga but that doesnt mean he's going one shot highly skilled shinobis with low level genjutus.

[Necromancer4276]

Naruto is an idiot and Deidara is also well an idiot who had never seen the sharingan before he met Itachi. Fact of the matter is any high level ninja will realize they're in a gen jutsu like Jiraiya noticed Itachi's gen jutsu . Stop over playing Itachi's gen jutsu skills. He's the most skillful gen jutsu user in the manga but that doesnt mean he's going one shot highly skilled shinobis with low level genjutus.

The fact of the matter is that Itachi can create genjutsu that completely mimic the landscape including teammates that S rank criminals can't discern from reality. When an average person is trapped in this same jutsu, realizes it and escapes by themselves, then i'll give this to minato.