lol you did your research for itachi. but how about obito? you can't make an assumption just by reviewing all of the skills of one side. you have to know both sides. how much do you know exactly about obito?
and yes, obito can counter amaterasu and susanoo with his default jutsu, kamui.
I did not research this was simply knowledge i had. I also did not know you wanted me to make a full Versus thread between the two. If you look back some pages this is my response to eariler people. Read the first Paragraph of what I wrote I am responding to specific comments. I am also baffled on what part was assumption? Then you start talking about Susanoo and Amaterasu which my post had nothing to do with.....
Couldn't have been izanagi even after ive explained it. Ill instead just upload a DB entry which hints towards kamui as the possible answer
DB hints towards kamui. Secondly after izanagi works, he wouldve had to have used it before amaterasu therefore when he himself is an illusion he trolls amaterasu.
Apart from the fact that its hinted that its kamui, it further states that tobi doesnt use the ms in the presence of other akatsuki members. We do know that he used in the midst of konan/deva path though even then he was a few metres away he used it.
So basically, the DB has revealed that he is careful around akatsuki members when he uses the ms which we can translate as kamui. Db secondly hints that its kamui that he used to evade amaterasu. So what tobi said when he talked about hiding secrets from itachi otherwise he would be dead right now, links with the 2 evidence in the DB.
The secrets is the ms that he doesnt use in the presence of akatsuki members. Its this secret (ms that we can translate as kamui) is what allowed him to evade amaterasu. Which brings me to the fact that the DB supports not many people even knowing about kamui. Kamui far outweighs izanagi if we were to speculate
Whilst nice of you to think im 'soloing' people im not.
Also the use of the term 'haters' is annoying. To me it looks like a fanboy who has gotten his heart broken and with limited knowledge on the manga cannot come up with any decent argument so cling to what comes to his head first, which is usually the term hater.
If itachi does indeed have haters its to be expected. He sits at the top of the food chain with only a handful of people above him. Hating such a high calibre ninja if anything is a blessing in disguise.
Itachi didn’t know Tobi was Obito! :sy: If he knew he could’ve definitely killed him! :y
If he knew his real identity & how his powers were countered he wouldn’t have pushed his luck, taking his time & implanting Amaterasu into Sasuke’s eyes!
The only one who knew Tobi or so-called Madara was Obito was the black & white Zetsu! :y
Also if Obito didn’t called himself Madara in front of other people no one could've taken him seriously!
That’s the why no one dared to attack him in those times!
All of your other questions have also been solved in my mind…!!!
The only counter to obito/tobi is kakashi only kumi can counter kumi that is what this last fight is showing us none of itachis moves would work on tobi if u say other wise u r STUPID unless itachi can make 600 billion bomb clones he is screwed it's that simple tobi was never scared of itachi or of Nagato he just wanted to use them as long as he could
Itachi has 0 moves that work on Tobi tell me how he can win and genjustsu is not an answer Tobi has ms and bolth senju and harishima DNA genjustu is the easiest thing to counter because it is so OP and madara was coaching him I will repeat one more time itachi has 0 moves that work on Tobi unless he makes 600 BILLION clone bombs and lures Tobi to them itachi looses every time only madara is above Tobi in the food chain but Tobi has 1 weakness his other eye that he gave to his best friend so kakashi with help is tobis only weakness
If itachi does indeed have haters its to be expected. He sits at the top of the food chain with only a handful of people above him. Hating such a high calibre ninja if anything is a blessing in disguise.[/QUOTE]
a handful of people above him yes and Tobi is one of them and people only hate itachi cause people like u say he would win every fight against anyone I bet u think itachi can beat madara and harishima and any of the Kage that's why people hate itachi and even sasuke they have to many FANBOYS
Well said, Nagato baller. To be honest I admit Itachi is a top tier ninja (Heck, even the manga stated so.), but I get annoyed at these fanboys saying he could solo anyone based on knowledge alone as if it is an auto-win before it begins. Others ninja can have knowledge too. Fact is, he has made mistakes and is not perfect, and Kishimoto himself brought that up when Sasuke would call Itachi perfect. If Itachi had no equal, then Madara would not have been Kabuto's trump card. Stop being silly.
Obito could not have used Kamui on Amaterasu. Both Konan and Itachi were aware of his space-time and Itachi is not stupid enough to try to kill Obito with something he knew would fail. The creator would not make Itachi be such a moron. It makes much more sense that Itachi actually did manage to kill Obito with that surprise attack, but Obito was revived with Izanagi. That was both Itachi and Obito end up looking good. Itachi could have killed Obito there if he didn't have Izanagi (Also made him lose one Sharingan), and Obito got the last laugh with the "fail" part.
You also gotta pay attention to the timing. All this happened shortly before Izanagi was used by Danzo. Since we didn't know about that technique yet, the reader was supposed to ask themselves, "How the hell did he survive that..? He g ot hit on the FACE!" and then when Danzo uses Izanagi the reader was supposed to be like, "Aha! So that's how!" Sadly, the average Naruto reader lacks analytical skills.
I feel it must be re-iterated. Obito was hit on his shoulder, then it spread to his face and you HEAR his death groans as he slowly burns. Had he used Kamui the clothes would have kept the damage as well as his face.
No... itachi couldn't kill obito, obito knew everything their was to know about itachi, including his motives,his techniques,and his limits,obito knew itachi wasn't a threat physically unless he KNEW eveything which he didn't, and you say itachi could have killed him which is questionable to no end,but 1 things for certain obito could have ended itachi at any time he wanted, he just needed him to play a role in sasuke development which he did, and btw these itachi fans are so full of shit, so quick to talk all intelligent but last to take their own advice...their pitiful...im so tired of this, im calling out any itachi fan who wants to debate and i swear i will bodybag them, lets start now.
Last edited by enditallsin; 11-19-2012 at 05:46 AM.