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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by ixc View Post
    Is that not a fact? Lets say the MS Sharingan then. Bloody hell how stupid are you? Itachi outlasted Sasuke on the battlefield who has a much higher chakra capacity than Obito lolz happy now?

    I couldn't care less about the fight between Bee and Kisame lol how can you even compare Bee to ITACHI LOL + Itachi has the right tools/techniques at his disposal to counter the weaknesses of other techniques.

    For example: Itachi's Izanami against Edo Tensei.
    No need for insults...it'll showcase your stupidity for the whole world to see.

    Now you've switched to MS Sharingan....unless you've been watching the pirated version of Naruto...that's still no enough to control the tailed beasts...so gimme something better.

    How could you say Sasuke has a higher chakra capacity than Obito?....seriously? Please....exercise your brain and put some thoughts into your posts. Back your statements with evidence from either the Manga or Anime.

    Also...blabbing that Itachi has the tech to counter Kamui without specifically stating which tech(s) is just foolish.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by tripol View Post
    No need for insults...it'll showcase your stupidity for the whole to see.

    Now you've switched to MS Sharingan....unless you've been watching the pirated version of Naruto...that's still no enough to control the tailed beasts...so gimme something better.

    How could you say Sasuke has a higher chakra capacity than Obito?....seriously? Please....exercise your brain and put some thoughts into your posts. Back your statements with evidence from either the Manga or Anime.

    Also...blabbing that Itachi has the tech to counter Kamui without stating specifically stating which tech(s) is just foolish.
    I overtrolled you for sure. You're so mad that you're insulting yourself that hard? indeed your stupidity is to be seen. In case you haven't seen Naruto it is said that the Sharingan can tame the Tailed beasts Wuuups got you there. I'm not going to back up my evidence since it's all in the manga one way or another and i'm simply trolling you anyways since you're making my day with your stupidity.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by tripol View Post
    Someone with sharingan can control a tailed beast?....really?....then Kagami is a boss who mind raped Hashirama....Sasuke's father controlled the Juubi and the Uchiha Police Force killed the Sage of Six Paths.

    Don't be a troll....let's argue based on facts.

    When Danzo mentioned tailed beast tamers....the only sharingan user was Madara (not his brother...or anyone in the Uchiha clan from history till date). So ur someone-with-a-sharingan-can-control-the-tailed-beast argument is lame.

    Next....figuring out how a technique works and countering it are two different things. Check out what happened between KillerBee and Kisame. Just because he figured that the water moved with Kisame didn't save him from it.
    Itachi's intelligence is amazing...no doubt...but you are yet to tell me how he would escape it judging from his array of techs at his disposal.

    You are also yet to tell me how he would outlast Obito on the battlefield since he has a much lower chakra capacity.
    Nice arguments. Ignore ixc, he's just a troll. He's too stupid to understand that he's wrong and its a waste of time trying to make him get it. Like how he ignored my the points in every post that does'nt agree with his itachi fapping.

    You know what they say, no point in telling an idiot how dumb he is, because being an idiot, he'll never understand. Thus i'm not responding to that fool either lol.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    And this is why you have no credibility and I have nothing more to say to you. I just explained that for Izanami to work(even Itachi said this) You can to copy movement A....movement A is the movement of when kabuto stabbed Itachi. So he has to replicate that movement again and combine them together to create a loop. That is Izanami.

    And I also said(even Itachi said this) Izanami can be broken easily if you just accept your fate. Obito knows this.....he will escape, because even if he accepts his fate in Izanami....that won't change the course of battle in reality.

    And if you can't acknowledge Itachi's real self(a flawed character) then you are bound to fail.....through the words of your own fav character.....now SIT DOWN!
    Just make it where he has to get over Rin dying. Oh wait he cant
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoKage2 View Post
    Nice arguments. Ignore ixc, he's just a troll. He's too stupid to understand that he's wrong and its a waste of time trying to make him get it. Like how he ignored my the points in every post that does'nt agree with his itachi fapping.

    You know what they say, no point in telling an idiot how dumb he is, because being an idiot, he'll never understand. Thus i'm not responding to that fool either lol.
    What are you stupid? I SMELL ANOTHER FAN. HAHAHA i'll add you to my signature lolz you're obviously mad.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoKage2 View Post
    Nice arguments. Ignore ixc, he's just a troll. He's too stupid to understand that he's wrong and its a waste of time trying to make him get it. Like how he ignored my the points in every post that does'nt agree with his itachi fapping.

    You know what they say, no point in telling an idiot how dumb he is, because being an idiot, he'll never understand. Thus i'm not responding to that fool either lol.
    I should have known better I guess.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    The thread states that, with knowledge, Itachi could have killed Obito.

    Then the question is... Why didn't he?

    Itachi loved Konoha. Obito was a threat to Konoha, Sasuke and the whole ninja world. Three things that Itachi tried to protect. Konoha was the village he loved, Sasuke is obvious and the whole ninja world? By massacring the Uchiha clan to prevent a 4th world war, and stopping Edo Tensei.

    All Itachi would have had to do is locate Tobi and take him down in battle. If Itachi were to keep locating Tobi if he were to keep phasing away from Itachi, soon enough he'd have to engage in battle.

    With knowledge, Itachi would have won...

    Well, the thing with that is it's kind of the THING your SUPPOSED to do with ninjas is to keep your techniques and yourself secret from anybody that could be an enemy. Telling your opponent your abilities gives them the ability to find counters. If you learn something about somebody, you'd be stupid not to use it against them in a life-and-death battle. So the whole "knowledge" thing is a weak argument.

    So Tobi finds out that pressure in the air current builds when someone uses Amaterasu, and then when Itachi uses it, he is just supposed to sit there and say "Oh, well I wasn't supposed to know this. It doesn't work in Itachi's favor. I'll stand here and take it".
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by tripol View Post
    I should have known better I guess.
    Yeah, what's funny is he thinks i'm mad and hes actually the one sending me pms's over that 1 post.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by eyesofthekyuubi44 View Post
    The thread states that, with knowledge, Itachi could have killed Obito.

    Then the question is... Why didn't he?
    I take it you didn't get past the first point.

    But don't worry, you're not the only one. Not by a long-shot.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    I'm a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85ujwW26ak to make people ignore me because they know i'm a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U85ujwW26ak in making them mad.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    tobi knew itachi was going to die anyway so why kill him
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    I love how you keep out the part where Obito is calling Itachi a failure.



    Itachi met with Obito but could just not find a way to beat him. Obito has both Senju and Uchiha abilities so he's definitely stronger. Of course Itachi could still Totsuka him or something, but Itachi already had enough knowledge if he planned that. He just lacked the ABILITY.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Obito used Izanagi to escape the fail-safe, so what? We don't know how much knowledge Itachi had, we only know that Obito distanced himself from Akatsuki while Itachi was a member, and that Obito didn't attack Konoha or return to Akatsuki until he knew Itachi's death was immediately forthcoming.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilt View Post
    Obito used Izanagi to escape the fail-safe, so what?
    I believe he just kamuid it
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by Orochimagus View Post
    I love how you keep out the part where Obito is calling Itachi a failure.



    Itachi met with Obito but could just not find a way to beat him. Obito has both Senju and Uchiha abilities so he's definitely stronger. Of course Itachi could still Totsuka him or something, but Itachi already had enough knowledge if he planned that. He just lacked the ABILITY.
    There's no statement where Obito says that Itachi is a failure!? You're the failure.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Obito knew that Itachi was a threat, but I think he also had a plan. He knew that Sasuke was the only other survivor of the Uchiha Massacre and would be looking to get revenge for the death of his clan. I believe that by not killing Itachi and by sticking to the pact (a pact that he could have easily broken), Obito was patient and paved the way for Sasuke to develop and finish off Itachi for him. After all, Itachi was still contributing to the collection of the tailed beasts and wasn't exactly going on full scale rebellions against the Akatsuki, so the need to go against Itachi at such an early stage was unnecessary.

    I remember Obito saying "The point of this plan...was to make Sasuke mine" (or something like that). He made an investment in Sasuke because he was the easier brother to deal with. By letting Sasuke get his revenge on Itachi, he could then intercept and manipulate Sasuke when his emotions were at their most unstable. I don't think it's a case that Obito couldn't kill Itachi, I personally think he took advantage of Sasuke's obsession with revenge, let him kill Itachi, and then invited him to the emo club after that.

    But as we all know, Edo Itachi, being the haxxed boss he is, switched things up and now Sasuke is having second thoughts...
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    You believe wrong, Bogard...And unfortunately it's a common mistake. Obito cannot use Spacetime after he is hit with Amaterasu because it would teleport the flames with him into the other dimension. You also need to pay attention on how his face and clothes burned and the way he groaned in agony from the shadows. Had he teleported away we would not have heard that. Add to this the fact that he comes out of the shadows with completely unscathed clothes and it is OBVIOUS that he used Kamui. Need more? Itachi and others knew about his spacetime techniques, but Obito claimed he hid secrets from Itachi. Spacetime does not fit the bill, but Izanagi does.

    ICX...Itachi's goal was to eliminate threats to the leaf. He wanted Obito dead. He planned for it, and it failed. He's a failure. Obito's choice of words were to a form of taunt.

    Obito is simply better because Itachi was forced to cooperate with the enemy to keep the village safe. He was a prisoner of sorts.

    You also forget that Obito needed Itachi alive. One of the big deals is unlocking the key to the Heretical Demon Statue, so Obito needed Sasuke to attain Itachi's eyes. This leads to Sasuke being the only other Uchiha in history with the potential to unlock Rinnegan. Both Orochimaru and Obito have been trying to manipulate the brothers so they can unlock the Rinnegan for them.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Quote Originally Posted by Orochimagus View Post
    You believe wrong, Bogard...And unfortunately it's a common mistake. Obito cannot use Spacetime after he is hit with Amaterasu because it would teleport the flames with him into the other dimension. You also need to pay attention on how his face and clothes burned and the way he groaned in agony from the shadows. Had he teleported away we would not have heard that. Add to this the fact that he comes out of the shadows with completely unscathed clothes and it is OBVIOUS that he used Kamui. Need more? Itachi and others knew about his spacetime techniques, but Obito claimed he hid secrets from Itachi. Spacetime does not fit the bill, but Izanagi does.

    IXC...Itachi's goal was to eliminate threats to the leaf. He wanted Obito dead. He planned for it, and it failed. He's a failure. Obito's choice of words were to a form of taunt.

    Obito is simply better because Itachi was forced to cooperate with the enemy to keep the village safe. He was a prisoner of sorts.

    You also forget that Obito needed Itachi alive. One of the big deals is unlocking the key to the Heretical Demon Statue, so Obito needed Sasuke to attain Itachi's eyes. This leads to Sasuke being the only other Uchiha in history with the potential to unlock Rinnegan. Both Orochimaru and Obito have been trying to manipulate the brothers so they can unlock the Rinnegan for them.
    Forced to cooperate? Dude he joined the Akatsuki all by his own will. To keep an eye out and spy on the Akatsuki. So just because you think that Itachi was ''forced'' to cooperate makes Obito better than Itachi!? LOLLERZ.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    uchiha itachi, was a fair combination of true intelligence and sheer power.
    i'd not be surprised if it is concluded that itachi was a problem for tobi, look we thought that all itachi had was amaterasu and tsukuyomi then came susanoo and what do u know, along wid the sword of totsuka and yataka mirror.
    he sealed orochimaru in seconds.
    we thought it was over for him, then we see izanami, and lets not forget that it stopped edo tensei which turns the tide of war.
    also his greatest weapon, WILL OF FIRE. i believe it burns inside of him, who sacrificed his everything for his village.
    we don't know how strong he was, as i think that he knew more than the limits of izanami.
    p.s : sorry for spellin mistake if there were any.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi could have killed Obito...

    Many things make him better. Senju DNA, the fact he's still alive. Best space-time in the series. Rinnegan. The fact he TRICKED Itachi the genius.He was used.

     
         

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