So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

[Theserpent]

yep...both madara and susanoo had their asses off the ground when hirodura hit them so yeah,i guess the tiger owns incomplete susanoo

I can tell you didn't read most of Naruto, or you'd never make such a retarded statement. Madara's Susanoo has been knocked back plenty of times and yet he has absolutely no damage done to him or his Susanoo.



As you can see, Madara was well off the ground after being hit by the dragon flood. He even endured Tsunade's kick and crashing into the ground without taking a bit of damage. He even remarks how weak their attack was. If he can take multiple hits from different kage in quick succession and suffer no damage, The Hirudora, which can't even kill a single person, is utterly ineffective against him.

[slaton02]

Actually, it's not safe to say that. If Hirudora can't kill a single person, their is no chance of it breaking susanoo. I mean I already broke the entire argument down as to why it's not true. It seems NarutoBase just has a massive amount of retards who can't read.

It destroyed susano'o, get over it. Your excuse doesn't make sense either.

[Theserpent]

It destroyed susano'o, get over it. Your excuse doesn't make sense either.

No, it didn't. Saying "HURRRF DURRF IT DID IT DID DURRF" Doesn't mean it actually did. Their is more than enough evidence that shows that it was NOT destroyed, and that Madara MOVED to his current location because he felt like it. I can tell you didn't read through the thread, most retards don't read, so I won't even bother explaining it again. However, should you ever decide to show a spark of intelligence go read page 8 of this thread.

[VariaBossX]

Gai creates the pressure himself by punching his hand. He then forms it into the shape of a tiger by forming his hands into a tiger shape.

He was using hand signs for the tech i assume. Im not a genuis in chemistry but
one way to prove my case is when he used morning peacock on the fake before
yet still didnt tear him apart.

[KidGamer65]

If I knew how anal-devastated you'd be after being proven wrong, i'd have posted in this thread sooner! Seriously you're a ****ing idiot and I've proven you wrong multiple times now. You can't even offer a single rebuttal to the points I brought up, and instead of conceding you keep making the same retarded statements as if nothing happened. I suggest you just stop now, you're not doing anything other than shitposting(As if that doesn't already apply to any post made by the hoardes of retards on NB).

Cry some more, your tears are delicious..

[Memoria]

No it's not idiot. Look at him and he is utterly undamaged and unfazed. You're just a massive dipshit who can't read a simple manga properly. Here, I'll post the image for the umpteenth time.

He has no damage whatsoever. YOu're obviously one of the retards who thinks his hand is a hole in his chest. Welll I'm sorry to tell you BUT IT IS ACTUALLY HIS HAND. That's one problem with naruto, too many retards flock around it. It makes having an intelligent discussion about it very difficult.

All I can understand from you is "No, just NO! Madara can't be damaged, because he's MADARA!!!", well then if you can't notice the scratches on his face that NEVER EXISTED before Gai's attack then I don't really know what to say, it seems you lack the minimum reading skills required for a regular manga reader.

His hand on his chest? did I ever mention such a thing? well you're starting to produce crap more than a newborn child. And intelligent discussion? don't think there will ever be one for you, your level of intelligence isn't that good either.

[Memoria]

That's because you're retarded. I've made NUMEROUS posts that expertly detail my logic. The only thing you have to go on I have already refuted. Any other claims are out of pure fanboy bias for gai.

I haven't read any 'detail' for your logic, if I want to explain it in three words it would be "Typical fanboy logic". And no, I'm not biased towards Gai nor am I a hater of Madara, in fact, I defended Madara on many occasions, but when things need to be clarified, I'll be involved.

You truly are retarded. Those "scratches" have been part of Madara's face since his inception. Observe.

As you can see, he has numerous "Scratches" on his face. Saying that those "scratches" are new shows how little you've read the manga. From his very inception he's had those, which proves how ****ing idiotic it is to state that his face "Scratches" are due to being hit by the Hirudora. How about you think for 10 seconds before you start making extreme claims.

Oh dear, mistook body scratches for Edo traits? let me resize Madara's panel for you then, since you seem to be having eyesight problems... [!] Does it look like Edo traits? No, not close.
Now if we take a look at the latest panels of Madara before he was attacked ([!], [!]) then the puzzle is solved, for logical people, if I'd say.
This is like a good reaon for me to laugh, I post panels from recent manga, and you post panels from when Madara was fighting the shinobi alliance. [LOL]

That wasn't about you. I was talking about some other people who have misread the manga, just like you have misread my post. And, please, let's lay off the insults. For someone who has been proven wrong consistently you're in no position to chastise others.

If anyone here misread the manga then it would be you, after all you were the one who mistook scratches for Edo traits. [LOL]
And insults? No, I'm not insulting anyone, I just speak to people with their language.

[tristan]

hirudora is a counter move...idiot...the stronger your attack, the stronger hirudora returns it back to you...so that means...hirudora's strength is basically 2x the strength of the opponent's jutsu...

ex. a baby tries to kick you in the nuts...hirudora will multiply the power of the baby's kick by two or three times...the question: is the baby kick that strong?

I can tell you didn't read most of Naruto, or you'd never make such a retarded statement. Madara's Susanoo has been knocked back plenty of times and yet he has absolutely no damage done to him or his Susanoo.



As you can see, Madara was well off the ground after being hit by the dragon flood. He even endured Tsunade's kick and crashing into the ground without taking a bit of damage. He even remarks how weak their attack was. If he can take multiple hits from different kage in quick succession and suffer no damage, The Hirudora, which can't even kill a single person, is utterly ineffective against him.

[KidGamer65]

I can ****ing feel the butthurt in your post. It's absolutely pathetic. Why would you even create a thread if you were going to just start spewing shit one you got proven wrong? As someone said already, NB should have an IQ test at registration to weed out the massively retarded.

, you didn't prove anyone wrong.

I said I was done, but when I see retarded shit like this I just have to reply.

[Paintry4]

Breaking madaras susano??? I dont see it happen.hirudora must have greater affect but no i was seemingly wrong.madaras susano can be again reformed since he's an edo.no gain.

[KidGamer65]

After reading your post..I laugh at how stupid it is...what a moron.

Doesn't change the fact you made the claim, and are still making the claim, in the face of information to the contrary. You're the one who is also continuously defending your claim. Stop trying to deflect the criticism of your post onto others. Take responsibility for the fact that it is you who is making such idiotic statements.
No, you're implying you're not the one making the claim "due to you not posting in this thread alot". That is utterly retarded. You also never explained why you were making such blatant lies. If anything you've done nothing but heap more speculation on top of you're previous claims, which remain unproven.

What a dumb shit...I never said I didn't make the claim retard....I said I didn't back it up well in my first post and in my later posts cause when I came back after I made it someone had explained it better than me....but you probably ignore that since you're just a retard.

Yes you were by posting that phrase. If you don't want people to think you're implying something DO NOT IMPLY IT. But by saying "the whole time" as if it holds weight implies that i've been a long time. You're implying that due to it being such a long time Madara is showing determination in trying to capture the 8 and 9 tails.

No, I didn't imply it, your stupidity led you to believe I implied it, when in reality no one implied that.

No, it doesn't. What you're saying is 'HURRRF DURRRF HIRUDORA DESTROYS SUANOO CAUS I LIEK GAI DD". You're not making any rational arguments to support your cause while I, on the other hand, have given numerous reasons why you are full of shit. By your logic Madara would not have played around with the Kage, since at the end of the day he would have killed them regardless.

Was he in a rush to beat the Kages dipshit? No he wasn't, was he in a rush to get Bee and Naruto before the Juubi revived..yes.

That's not what you're claiming. You said that he CLEARLY STATED he wanted needed the 8 and 9 tails before the ten tails activated, something he never said. You're changing your statements, which is foolish because I can just scroll up and see you're lying. Again, if you can't make an actual argument then just stop posting.

Can you read?! That is what he said, why would he want to capture them AFTER the Juubi revived..retard.

You don't know that. Nothing indicates madara has no knowledge of the ten tails revivial rate, and considering Madara has shown to pretty much "know everything" I wouldn't doubt that he does, in fact, know when it would revive. He was attacking them earlier, but he obviously wasn't "serious" about it in teh same way he wasn't "serious" about fighting the kage. He could have easily just been bidding time until the ten tails revived.

Nothing indicates that he does know either. He already said "I will go collect the nine and eight tails" why? So he can put them in the Mazo, there is a limited time for him to do this though, thus he wasn't just fooling around.

You're using the word "retard" a lot, but let's not forget who thought that Madara had a hole in in his chest, and thought the lines on his body were "scratches". You've been made a fool of this entire debate. Also, in your OP, you said "most likely" which implies you think it did happen. Thus you made a claim and are purporting it as the truth.

You are the one who thought the lines on his body were scratches...scuff marks aren't scratches, and i'm the retard.

Most likely means it is more probable than not that it happened, it doesn't mean this is 100% fact...you don't know what words mean either, you should just stop reading Naruto.

Or he could have just been playing with them in the same way he was playing with the Kage, as he knew the ten-tails would be revived eventually. his past behavior gives credit to this theory. If you've paid attention(something i'm sure you didn't do) Madara never acts out of haste and does things on his own time. Nothing indicates that he was trying to capture them "before" the Ten-tails revived, only that he WOULD capture them, eventually.


http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/601/16, http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/601/11, http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/601/13

He wasn't in a rush to fight the Kage first of all.

If YOU read the manga and actually payed attention (which im sure you didn't do) you would know that the only reason he wants the eight and nine tails is because he wants to add them to the Mazo....http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/601/13

See what he says there moron...read it carefully "We're still in time, I'll catch the Kyuubi and Hachibi"

Now what does this mean...it means that he wants to capture them and add them to the Mazo BEFORE the Juubi comes out.

Yes, but it does prove my claim that Madara moved to his current location, thus making your claim of "he was out the entire chapter" utterly false. You were claiming that because you don't see him the entire chapter he was "recovering" from the Hirudora attack. I explained to you why that was wrong, and how he was most likely as undamaged as when Tsunade 'broke" his Susanoo. Again I have shown you up for the illogical cretin you are.

Madara moving to that location doesn't mean that his Susanoo wasn't broken, show me a scan of him in the chapter before the last page and then the bolded will make sense.

[Theserpent]

hirudora is a counter move...idiot...the stronger your attack, the stronger hirudora returns it back to you...so that means...hirudora's strength is basically 2x the strength of the opponent's jutsu...

Holy shit you're wrong. I hate it when retards not only make false claims but actually insult others. I'll spagetti strip your post, in my experience tards can undrestand things alot better that way.



First off It's KISAME'S ATTACK that absorbs chakra and makes the attack stronger. If you weren't such a ****ing idiot you'd have read that more thoroughly(or read it at all). Not only that, but never does it state ANYWHERE how much stronger the Giant Shark Missile increases after absorbing chakra. Even if Hirudora did increase based on being attacked, which it doesn't and neither does the giant shark missile(it increase after absorbing chakra) Madara didn't attack him. Even further, but even if all of that were true, which it is not, and Madara did attack Gai first, which he did not, that still doesn't mean Hirudora would be powerful enough to penetrate Susanoo. So yes, you are a ****ing idiot who absolutely NO clue as to what the **** you're going on about.

ex. a baby tries to kick you in the nuts...hirudora will multiply the power of the baby's kick by two or three times...the question: is the baby kick that strong?

Your example is wrong. You're entire ****ing post is wrong. I suggest you SHUT THE **** UP until you know what the **** you're going on about. And nice emote, ******.

After reading your post..I laugh at how stupid it is...what a moron.


What a dumb shit...I never said I didn't make the claim retard....I said I didn't back it up well in my first post and in my later posts cause when I came back after I made it someone had explained it better than me....but you probably ignore that since you're just a retard.





No, I didn't imply it, your stupidity led you to believe I implied it, when in reality no one implied that.




Was he in a rush to beat the Kages dipshit? No he wasn't, was he in a rush to get Bee and Naruto before the Juubi revived..yes.






Can you read?! That is what he said, why would he want to capture them AFTER the Juubi revived..retard.





Nothing indicates that he does know either. He already said "I will go collect the nine and eight tails" why? So he can put them in the Mazo, there is a limited time for him to do this though, thus he wasn't just fooling around.





You are the one who thought the lines on his body were scratches...scuff marks aren't scratches, and i'm the retard.

Most likely means it is more probable than not that it happened, it doesn't mean this is 100% fact...you don't know what words mean either, you should just stop reading Naruto.






He wasn't in a rush to fight the Kage first of all.

If YOU read the manga and actually payed attention (which im sure you didn't do) you would know that the only reason he wants the eight and nine tails is because he wants to add them to the Mazo....http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/601/13

See what he says there moron...read it carefully "We're still in time, I'll catch the Kyuubi and Hachibi"

Now what does this mean...it means that he wants to capture them and add them to the Mazo BEFORE the Juubi comes out.






Madara moving to that location doesn't mean that his Susanoo wasn't broken, show me a scan of him in the chapter before the last page and then the bolded will make sense.

I'll conceed on the fact that Madara did in fact say he wanted to capture the 9 and 8 tails before the ten-tails revived, but that still doesn't mean that he can't still put them into the ten-tails which could be the cause of his relaxed demanour. And even then that doesn't imply that Hirudora broke through susanoo. Everything I've posted still adds weight to the fact that he was not only undamaged by the Hirudora but moved to his current location. Also, you were the one making the claim that Hirudora damaged Madara.

Where did the scuff marks come from huh? From Hirudora.

I mean did you think I couldn't just go through this thread and see you're previous posts? If so then you're stupider than I thought you were. Regardless, the your original claim stands un-proven and their is numerous pieces of evidence that disprove it.

[a banned cartoon]

What an amazing rebuttal.

Hahaha. I'm sorry, but in my honest opinion I don't think Hirudora broke Susanoo.

[Memoria]

Hahaha. I'm sorry, but in my honest opinion I don't think Hirudora broke Susanoo.

"Break it" is not right, the right term is "Broke through it". Wind element was very effective against Susanoo actually. An example of that is when Danzo opened a gap in Sasuke's final Susanoo with the help of his summon [!].
What I'm trying to say? Hirudora is a very fast punch that sends high speed wind pressures forming a tiger shape in the process. It most likely broke through it and Madara received about 10% of the damage due to Susanoo tanking most of it, and that explains why Madara had some scratches on his face and armor at the end of chapter 609.

[u wanna die]

hirudora is a beast

[Gdamon]

Madara's sussano didn't get broken because it didn't show a close up on his face...

[KidGamer65]

I'll conceed on the fact that Madara did in fact say he wanted to capture the 9 and 8 tails before the ten-tails revived, but that still doesn't mean that he can't still put them into the ten-tails which could be the cause of his relaxed demanour. And even then that doesn't imply that Hirudora broke through susanoo. Everything I've posted still adds weight to the fact that he was not only undamaged by the Hirudora but moved to his current location. Also, you were the one making the claim that Hirudora damaged Madara.

@bold: , that is exactly what it means, why would he say "we still have time" if he could do it afterwards.

Him moving to that spot doesn't matter either, as he could have moved after taking damage from Hirudora..I admit that he probably wasn't regenerating but he still took damage hence the scuff marks that were added all over his body after Hirudora hit.

I mean did you think I couldn't just go through this thread and see you're previous posts? If so then you're stupider than I thought you were. Regardless, the your original claim stands un-proven and their is numerous pieces of evidence that disprove it.

Thanks for bringing this up, it just repeats what I've always been saying......SCUFF MARKS WERE MADE DUE TO HIRUDORA.

THE SCUFF MARKS I AM REFERRING TO ARE NOT THE EDO BODY TRAITS.

What a fail, this post repeats what I said in my last post, hirudora made scuff marks not scratches, if you don't know the difference between the two, then you are stupider than I thought.

Did you think this post was going to expose me? If so you did a pretty bad job of "exposing" me.

[HiruzenSwag]

Just so everyone knows, this under Hirudora page on Narutopedia, mainly for those who deny how powerful this justsu is, "The attack is powerful enough to destroy Madara Uchiha's Susanoo in its incomplete state and keep him pinned for the duration of the blast.[3]"

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Daytime_Tiger

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[Gdamon]

Just so everyone knows, this under Hirudora page on Narutopedia, mainly for those who deny how powerful this justsu is, "The attack is powerful enough to destroy Madara Uchiha's Susanoo in its incomplete state and keep him pinned for the duration of the blast.[3]"

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Daytime_Tiger

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that was someone's interpratation of what happened...

that doesn't add any proof...

[KidGamer65]

Madara's sussano didn't get broken because it didn't show a close up on his face...

What? How does this mean that it wasn't broken?

[Theserpent]

Just so everyone knows, this under Hirudora page on Narutopedia, mainly for those who deny how powerful this justsu is, "The attack is powerful enough to destroy Madara Uchiha's Susanoo in its incomplete state and keep him pinned for the duration of the blast.[3]"

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Daytime_Tiger

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And do you realize that Wiki is nothing more than fans writing what THEY THING HAS HAPPENED? It DOES NOT mean that it is true. If Kishimoto say's Madara has no weakness, he has no weakness.

[KidGamer65]

And do you realize that Wiki is nothing more than fans writing what THEY THING HAS HAPPENED? It DOES NOT mean that it is true. If Kishimoto say's Madara has no weakness, he has no weakness.

This has nothing to do with the current topic.

[softkings]

He mayve broke it but its the incomplete version. Bone susanoo is the weakest. Or he tried to absorb it. But Idont think it hurt him at all actually

He can't absorb it because Hirudora isnt a ninjutsu. Gai stated when he fought Kisame that Hirudora is air pushed really fast creating an air pressure with a form of a tiger's face. So if Madara tought that he can absorb it he was wrong. And i think it hurted him (as far as and Edo can be hurt) because we know Susano is a chakra tech, so maybe Hirudora absorbed the Susano.

And btw Madara has Bone Susano as lvl 1 Susano and Perfect Susano as lvl 2 Susano and can grow legs

[Smd]

As we can see, Madara's Susanoo is gone and it looks like he was regenerating prior to them showing him.

Forget the first point, but he has scuff marks all over his body after taking the blast so it most likely did little damage to him while destroying Susanoo.

Don't open this if you haven't read the latest chapter; 609.

This could be why Bee broke out of Mokuton.

Again, don't open if you haven't read 609.

Stop posting about my little hand mistake with Madara, I have been cleared up on this already.

Some people want to get so butthurt at the possibility of this being true that they can't read the title correctly so I'll clarify right here: No where did I say this was proof, read the title, Is is confirmed? and Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? are questions.

no.

[Nagatoballer]

If any one actually read the manga you will see hirudora pick susanoo up and blow him away causing madara to loose control of wood style so bee could escape. madara was fighting until hirudora blew him away he absolutely had to regenerate anyone who says he didn't is really stupid if madara was not edo tense he would have been killed hirudora is closet to beast bomb a human can't get I am so sick of uchia fans that think they are god