So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

I think he can beat every Uchiha who doesn't use EMS. ITACHI said not to underestimate him and we still have not seen him open the 8th gate yet, so that being said he might
Can beat EMS user.

This ^ except for the "can beat EMS user" part.

[IIB7252]

As we can see, Madara's Susanoo is gone and it looks like he was regenerating prior to them showing him.

Forget the first point, but he has scuff marks all over his body after taking the blast so it most likely did little damage to him while destroying Susanoo.

Don't open this if you haven't read the latest chapter; 609.

This could be why Bee broke out of Mokuton.

Again, don't open if you haven't read 609.

U should have put it like this brother
I am pretty sure for the entire Chapter Madara was out of commission because of Gai, probably reforming.

1. He didn't move from his spot for the entire chapter (he was still in the cloud of smoke).
2. Didn't intervene for the entire chapter.
3. The Mokuton on the Hachibi completely loosened.
4. Obito looked over his shoulder at the Hachibi and and the cloud of smoke (probably concerened). - Ok, weak point to make.
5. His Sasunoo wasn't around him anymore.
- You could make the argument he released the form, but what for and stay in the exact same spot doing nothing and sitting down?

What do you think? I don't think Madara is one to sit still for an entire chapter not fighting unless something major happened. I mean this is MADARA, and he didn't do ANYTHING for the entire chapter, coincidentally he was hit by Afternoon Tiger. So I therefore conclude that Afternoon Tiger obliterated his Sasunoo form and forced Madara to reform.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

U should have put it like this brother
I am pretty sure for the entire Chapter Madara was out of commission because of Gai, probably reforming.

1. He didn't move from his spot for the entire chapter (he was still in the cloud of smoke).
2. Didn't intervene for the entire chapter.
3. The Mokuton on the Hachibi completely loosened.
4. Obito looked over his shoulder at the Hachibi and and the cloud of smoke (probably concerened). - Ok, weak point to make.
5. His Sasunoo wasn't around him anymore.
- You could make the argument he released the form, but what for and stay in the exact same spot doing nothing and sitting down?

What do you think? I don't think Madara is one to sit still for an entire chapter not fighting unless something major happened. I mean this is MADARA, and he didn't do ANYTHING for the entire chapter, coincidentally he was hit by Afternoon Tiger. So I therefore conclude that Afternoon Tiger obliterated his Sasunoo form and forced Madara to reform.

I believe you said it best and I am convinced now!

[Chatte]

We don't know for sure yet, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
We don't have enough proof.
I am sure this will be explained later.

[mafo]

at the bold part
LOL!?
my bad?
in 1st ur so sure that u can actually present it to kishi that madara has black hole and regenerating
now ur bubling about that scuff marks in his face and legs? and that mokuton loosening grip??
HAHAHA what a LAME reason
u just find a new reason coz u gets humiliated

lol good observation.

[IIB7252]

I believe you said it best and I am convinced now!

Thanks brother...This is my 1 complement for my post....+ rep...It means a lot to me...Thanks...

[Djokovic]

Not really, Madara was just chillin at the end.

[transroboball]

This ^ except for the "can beat EMS user" part.

Key word is "might".

[IIB7252]

Not really, Madara was just chillin at the end.

Madara just chilling? The guy doesn't sit still and fights. And for an entire chapter he did nothing. Madara. entire chapter. nothing. Kishimoto used Afternoon Tiger to put Madara out of the match for the entire chapter. You guys are right, the chapter did focus on Obito, Kakashi and Naruto, but the only way it would be sound to not show Madara doing anything is to keep him out of the match through Afternoon Tiger.

[IIB7252]

Wait, Afternoon Tiger hits, Madara doesn't intervene for the entire chapter, Mokuton started to loosen MAGICALLY, and you guys still think AF had nothing to do with it? Come on.

[Djokovic]

Madara just chilling? The guy doesn't sit still and fights. And for an entire chapter he did nothing. Madara. entire chapter. nothing. Kishimoto used Afternoon Tiger to put Madara out of the match for the entire chapter. You guys are right, the chapter did focus on Obito, Kakashi and Naruto, but the only way it would be sound to not show Madara doing anything is to keep him out of the match through Afternoon Tiger.

Again, Madara was just chillin. He knew Juubi would be revived in seconds and took his time to sit this one out.
Do you think Madara regenerated the last second and posed to look good just for the last page? No, he was sitting there all along.

[IIB7252]

Some1 will say....The only thing Gai accomplished was pushing Madara out long enough for this entire chapter to take place. Nothing of significance actually happened to Madara...
Than IIB says like this...Pushing Madara out? If he was just simply pushed, he'd of been in the chapter just as fast as Afternoon Tiger ended. He wasn't hit a mile away or anything...

Madara cry when he see Gai...lol

[Midday]

U should have put it like this brother
I am pretty sure for the entire Chapter Madara was out of commission because of Gai, probably reforming.

1. He didn't move from his spot for the entire chapter (he was still in the cloud of smoke).
2. Didn't intervene for the entire chapter.
3. The Mokuton on the Hachibi completely loosened.
4. Obito looked over his shoulder at the Hachibi and and the cloud of smoke (probably concerened). - Ok, weak point to make.
5. His Sasunoo wasn't around him anymore.
- You could make the argument he released the form, but what for and stay in the exact same spot doing nothing and sitting down?

What do you think? I don't think Madara is one to sit still for an entire chapter not fighting unless something major happened. I mean this is MADARA, and he didn't do ANYTHING for the entire chapter, coincidentally he was hit by Afternoon Tiger. So I therefore conclude that Afternoon Tiger obliterated his Sasunoo form and forced Madara to reform.

I agree with this.

[ARandomBlackKid]

The level of fanboyism is strong with this post.. Going to die from laughing after Madara goes POOOF.
OT: AT Raped Madaras face with a Bananna.

[Blaze Release]

Not really, its only confirmed if we see the aftermath of madara's susano or madara regenerating, we saw neither.
Therefore nothing has been confirmed. We could however assume, however you cannot confrim something that hasnt been shown

[IIB7252]

Not really, its only confirmed if we see the aftermath of madara's susano or madara regenerating, we saw neither.
Therefore nothing has been confirmed. We could however assume, however you cannot confrim something that hasnt been shown

Dear Blaze...Some times u need to read between the lines...Kishi likes that we scratch our brains every now and then...

Bottom line is I know Unfortunately OP, Madara fanboys outnumber Gai fans 50:1. Not many will acknowledge his feat....

Not really, its only confirmed if we see the aftermath of madara's susano or madara regenerating, we saw neither.
Therefore nothing has been confirmed. We could however assume, however you cannot confrim something that hasnt been shown

so u mean to say...He was chilling for the ENTIRE chapter in the exact same spot Afternoon Tiger hit. Come on. The reason Kishimoto made Gai use Hirudora on Madara was so he wouldn't intervene for the rest of the chapter, and it wouldn't look like he was doing nothing....U must be kidding me...

Again, Madara was just chillin. He knew Juubi would be revived in seconds and took his time to sit this one out.
Do you think Madara regenerated the last second and posed to look good just for the last page? No, he was sitting there all along.

IIB say's u should ask this question u will get ur answer...If u dnt agree Than GOD help u guys...
And why can't he bother to give Obito a hand? Either Madara was having problems, or he was just slow-witted...Kaskashi would have killed obito if he really wanted...

[Chatte]

so u mean to say...He was chilling for the ENTIRE chapter in the exact same spot Afternoon Tiger hit. Come on. The reason Kishimoto made Gai use Hirudora on Madara was so he wouldn't intervene for the rest of the chapter, and it wouldn't look like he was doing nothing....U must be kidding me...

Well, we saw him chilling as well when he was fighting with the Kages, barely moved from one damn spot.
And we don't know if it was in the exact same location.
So until it's not confirmed, we don't know if Hirudora broke Madara's Susano'o.
What INDEED it did was to shake it off its position.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Bottom line is I know Unfortunately OP, Madara fanboys outnumber Gai fans 50:1. Not many will acknowledge his feat....

Indeed...well said.

[VariaBossX]

hirudagon couldnt break kisame, what makes u think it can break susanoo?
raikage+tsuchikage used aggravated rock tech on that same susanoo, did u see
that break? or did u see it get thrown like a rag doll and later came
back and fodderize their hope of winning?

[fastrthnwind]

hirudagon couldnt break kisame, what makes u think it can break susanoo?
raikage+tsuchikage used aggravated rock tech on that same susanoo, did u see
that break? or did u see it get thrown like a rag doll and later came
back and fodderize their hope of winning?

It might have been because they were underwater and the water along with his water jutsu cushioned him from the blast, saving him from the one hit kill technique.

[Kinimaster]

Its not confirmed, even if that was the case, that was the incomplete Susano'o, similar to the one used on the Mokuton clones, which Tsunade was destroying with her bare hands. So not a big feat.

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Hirudora is Taijutsu, Madara can't absorb it, and I do know that it is the incomplete version...as it says in the title.

the susanoo he used was the one he used with his wood clones

[VariaBossX]

It might have been because they were underwater and the water along with his water jutsu cushioned him from the blast, saving him from the one hit kill technique.

No dude. the justu requires sweat if anything its helping the justu,
plus water isnt going to prove the resultes done to kisame

[IIB7252]

Its not confirmed, even if that was the case, that was the incomplete Susano'o, similar to the one used on the Mokuton clones, which Tsunade was destroying with her bare hands. So not a big feat.

The thing is Madara's susano got smashed into pieces it doesnt matter wether it was complete or incomplete...and ya who is telling that its a big feat...Because for gai its just a VERY SMALL FEAT...;-)

[Blaze Release]

so u mean to say...He was chilling for the ENTIRE chapter in the exact same spot Afternoon Tiger hit. Come on. The reason Kishimoto made Gai use Hirudora on Madara was so he wouldn't intervene for the rest of the chapter, and it wouldn't look like he was doing nothing....U must be kidding me...

Confirm: "additional proof that something that was believed"/"any factual evidence that helps to establish the truth of something"

Assume "take to be the case or to be true; accept without verification or proof"

What youve said falls under the definition of assume rather than confirm.......... I dont know what happened after, because it wasnt shown and the same can be said about you. Until its actually been confirmed and made cannon in the manga, you are assuming