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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    Okay then ill answer your question, but answer mine aswell.

    You asked "why can't he bother to give Obito a hand?". Could range from him believing obito can hold his own to he did say he will leave obito with kakashi/gai whilst he takes bee & naruto (that isnt how the fight turned out though). To obito didnt exactly ask for help....

    Now answer my question
    whats ur question ask me...I am waiting...
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    I'm really done, you don't understand the basics.
    It's on the principle proof or it didn't happen!

    I loved his move and anything but I don't like the overrating. And this is kinda what you do with Gai.
    Just don't ruin his moment of shine, please.

    If something had happened, Kishi would've showed. As simple as that.

    I'm off here.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    I'm really done, you don't understand the basics.
    It's on the principle proof or it didn't happen!

    I loved his move and anything but I don't like the overrating. And this is kinda what you do with Gai.
    Just don't ruin his moment of shine, please.

    If something had happened, Kishi would've showed. As simple as that.

    I'm off here.
    whe u dnt have anything to say...Its easy to leave right...And by the way I dont like GAI at all...

    This was a Kakashi, Obito and Naruto fight, I know it didn't show Madara injured, I know it didn't focus on him reforming, but if you can understand. Madara was serious at 607, he said he was. He used the Mokuton dragon, Hashiramaa's strongest technique (I think he stated). Goes for the kill on Naruto, Bee and Gai. Gets belted by Afternoon Tiger, doesn't do anything for the rest of the chapter, stays put in the exact spot, just because the best reason I've been given is "He was just chilling". Even though his motive and mission was to capture Hachibi and Naruto. Now tell me with a straight face, which reason makes more sense?

    Authors intention was to keep Madara out of the fight through Hirudora, so it didn't look like he was doing nothing and not fighting. How can you not read the Authors intention with that reasoning?
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    I think this makes sense read it with open mind....

    The wood did loosen to the point that Hachibi released himself so it's not like Madara didn't feel the strike. And he was out for the entire chapter and he had enough time to regenerate. We didn't see nor Madara's reaction, nor Madara's condition after the attack, nothing. We didn't see Madara for the entire chapter until the last page. Imo, the thing was specially left ambiguous because Gai getting him would kinda ruin Madara's hype and Gai not getting him would be kinda disappointing for many.

    I actually think that Susanoo was destroyed and Madara did get hit to the point that he regenerated because I don't see why Madara's wood would loosen if everything was alright with him.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Yes it's clear that Gai was able to destroy Susanoo!

    Which the recent chapter proves that..... If you look at the picture properly!
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFlash1 View Post
    Yes it's clear that Gai was able to destroy Susanoo!

    Which the recent chapter proves that..... If you look at the picture properly!
    Exactly brother....

    You know what. If this doesn't sound logical to Blaze Release and to chatte, than nothing can....

    The wood binding the Hachibi loosened. It wasn't Madara who loosened it intentionally. In fact, he'd of taken the opportunity just like in 608 to take out Hachibi if the wood binding him was still strong in this chapter. So we can rule out Madara intentionally loosening the binding. Ok, Hachibi couldn't have loosened it, Naruto couldn't have loosened it, he just stated it suppressed the Chakara of Bijuu's. Couldn't have been Gai, he was out cold. So what loosened the wood? The wood binding the Hachibi came from Madara, right? So something must of happened to Madara. Hirudora hit Madara and his Sasunoo, so the only logical answer is Gai did enough of an attack on MADARA himself to make the wood loosen. Considering that the Wood on the Hachibi doesn't need Madara's line of sight. So it wasn't something like "The dust around Madara forced the wood on Hachibi to loosen".

    Than we have those other points, such as Madara not intervening in the fight, and staying in the exact same spot Hirudora hit, without Sasunoo activated.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Read my newest post (well the post before this one), and type back to me, with a straight face,

    Gai didn't do anything to Madara.can you not look at this with rose colored uchiha glasses? Madara wasn't just chilling out somewhere, that makes no sense at all . Last chapter he was hit with a desperation attack by Gai and his susanoo was thrown back...this chapter he's sitting down. 1+ 1 equals what?

    Just because he's acting unphased and like he doesn't give a shit, doesn't mean he's sitting there because he intended to sit there.

    It seems pretty damn obvious he was thrown over there from gai's attack. By no means was it a beat down or any measure of a victory against madara whatsoever but it sure as hell had enough force to push him back
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by IIB7252 View Post
    U should have put it like this brother
    I am pretty sure for the entire Chapter Madara was out of commission because of Gai, probably reforming.

    1. He didn't move from his spot for the entire chapter (he was still in the cloud of smoke).
    2. Didn't intervene for the entire chapter.
    3. The Mokuton on the Hachibi completely loosened.
    4. Obito looked over his shoulder at the Hachibi and and the cloud of smoke (probably concerened). - Ok, weak point to make.
    5. His Sasunoo wasn't around him anymore.
    - You could make the argument he released the form, but what for and stay in the exact same spot doing nothing and sitting down?

    What do you think? I don't think Madara is one to sit still for an entire chapter not fighting unless something major happened. I mean this is MADARA, and he didn't do ANYTHING for the entire chapter, coincidentally he was hit by Afternoon Tiger. So I therefore conclude that Afternoon Tiger obliterated his Sasunoo form and forced Madara to reform.
    Thanks for the additional info bro, + rep.

    Quote Originally Posted by RasenUchihaChaos View Post
    the susanoo he used was the one he used with his wood clones
    This one was one level lower than that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmrasengan View Post
    that black think it's his hand man. madara is just chillin and he was waiting for the juubi aswell.
    I've already been informed that it was is hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by natzzz View Post
    he was regenerating.there's a big black hole in his chest.so if it was non edo madara....................
    As I have just found out, it was his hand.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    like a kid's point of view... =]

    so shallow...
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by SEEDLESS View Post
    like a kid's point of view... =]

    so shallow...
    Care to elaborate?
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    on my opinion,

    the manga did not show madara was regenerating. so we cannot assume that he was forced down on his knees because of hirudora. we don't exactly know what happened so,,, let's just wait for the next chapter to find out. peace yoh! ^_^

    but i do respect your opinion
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by SEEDLESS View Post
    on my opinion,

    the manga did not show madara was regenerating. so we cannot assume that he was forced down on his knees because of hirudora. we don't exactly know what happened so,,, let's just wait for the next chapter to find out. peace yoh! ^_^

    but i do respect your opinion
    I was already proved wrong on the regeneration part, and one user on here explained it much better than I did.

    But yeah I guess we have to wait for the next chapter.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    No thank you
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    First we need to understand that not a lot of time has passed between madara getting hit by hirudora and the juubi finally being revived. This can be seen in the picture of madara because he still has smoke and dust flying behind him, away from the juubi so it's not the juubi that caused the smoke around madara. Next, we need to understand that gai got a surprise attack on madara while he was looking away. Hirudora most likely barely did any damage but the pure force of the attack was enough to looden his grip with the move. Hirudora is a formidable attack so its understandable that his grip would loosen, since he was sent flying.

    Still madara was a straight up boss in the one and only panel he had.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    an incomplete version meaning a susano with skin and skelenton yes it would cause damage and possible break susano but it won't do enough to cause considerable damage (like bleeding and so on)
    after all if tsunade's kick was enough to cause that much damage a kinjutsu like that of the morning tiger should also be able to

    none the less this doesn't mean it can destroy a complete susano like PS or that of itachi and sasuke's current susano.

    nice thread i agree
     
         
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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Yes it clearly damaged him, you can see the scratches on his face/armor. And the fact that he didn't show in the whole chapter in combination with the mokuton's grip loosening only adds to this valid assumption.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    First of all don't bring your foolish comments here, this isn't a vs thread so don't make it one.

    Second of all, look at that black hole in his chest, he was regenerating.
    hahahahah, that's his hand, hahahahah
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess View Post
    hahahahah, that's his hand, hahahahah
    , read the other posts, this has been clarified.
     
         

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    Re: So is it confirmed? Hirudora can break Madara's Susanoo? (Incomplete version).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursed Prince View Post
    He mayve broke it but its the incomplete version. Bone susanoo is the weakest. Or he tried to absorb it. But Idont think it hurt him at all actually


    Nothing can "hurt" him, he's edo. He is laying on his @$$ though so the technique obviously overpowered him. And he had to deactivate Sussano'o. That means that move was no F'ing Joke.


    Tsunade was able to break that Sussano'o by just punching it. If you think Tsunade's single punch is greater than Hirudora, you're crazy. Of course Hirudora can break Madara (incomplete) Sussanoo
     
         

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