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Kamui=Instant Kage Level
As you can see Obito is fodder compared to Kakashi if Kamui isnt included and since he can use Kamui more efficiently then Kakashi it makes him High Kage level or close to God Tier without it,makes him Chunnin Level or Jounin at max.
Kakashi with Kamui makes him Mid-High Kage Level
Obito with Kamui makes him High Kage Level-Close God Tier
Kakashi without Kamui=Jounin or Low Kage Level
Obito without Kamui=Chunnin-Jounin level
As you can see Kakashi threw 1 punch and made Obito spew up blood and look worn out.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
I think you underestimate Obito a little. Don't forget he also is very proficient with Mokuton. I'd say Obito is still high jonin level without his Kamui and with it - higher than high kage level.
Kakashi without Kamui, on the other hand, is low to mid kage level and with it, high kage level.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
Kamui's Tobi's only tech. and he is pretty much strong but some people with sheer awesome fighting pattern made him look like a fodder...
Kamui= unbeatable tech.
Kamui user= Kage level
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
I agree that Obito cannot take much damage, probably because half his body is a weak copy.
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うちはサスケ is over 9k!
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
More like, You, as a host of a Bijuu = Instant Kage Level.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
izanami=god tier
tsukoyomi=hokage tier
amaterasu=hokage tier
itachi=god tier
, Izanami is the most useless jutsu ever, as it makes you lose an eye and does work only sometimes, even shi shi rendan is better than it overall.
You just went full fanboy.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
izanami=god tier
tsukoyomi=hokage tier
amaterasu=hokage tier
itachi=god tier
Please **** off out of NB.Your fanboyism gives Itachi a bad name
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
izanami=god tier
tsukoyomi=hokage tier
amaterasu=hokage tier
itachi=god tier
Nagato>Itachi low-mid diff.
Sasuke>Itachi high diff.
Naruto>Itachi mid diff.
Not so godly if you ask me.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
lol the jutsu helps to stop the edo tensei?? hahaha fail hater is fail
itachi>>>minato
Itachi himself said this jutsu is useless, so rant some more as to how it is GOD LEVEL :lmao:
Kakashi=Itachi, sorry to break your bubble.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
this is true kamiu gives a huge power boost even though the user might not be that good.i never thought of tobi as powerfull he just has one tech that made it that people can't touch him.same with naruto he shakes hands with kurama and now he's able to fight with the likes of madara uchiha cheap character power ups
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
I think that your underestimating him He still got one Sharingan (with possibly a few copied techniques) and his Mokuton.
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
izanami=god tier
tsukoyomi=hokage tier
amaterasu=hokage tier
itachi=god tier
Dude this is totally off topic lol.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
nagato>>>minato no diff
naruto>>>minato almost no diff
sasuke minato low to mid diff
 mm to fodder 4 me
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itachi>>>minato low diff
tsukoyomi 1 hit ftw
 
Tsukuyomi one hit,what if Minato speed blitz him at the start.Tsukuyomi 1 hit and Minato Speed 1 hit.
Simple
Minato>Sasuke.Heaps of threads on NB giving plausible reasons why
Naruto>>Minato and Itachi
But it doesnt matter.I fanboy both Itachi and Minato although Minato betters Itachi so its allgood
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
kakashi=itachi??
from what i remember kakashi get's 1 hit by tsukoyomi and get's hospital'd for a few weeks and still needs tsunade to heal his brain
LOL
sorry to break u bubble 
From what I remember this was as many chapters ago as when Naruto was on Kiba's level.
And even then Itachi could not defeat Kakashi without resorting to MS. 
Sorry to break your bubble, Kakashi himself stated on the beginning of Part II he's not the same as he used to be and he outsmarted Itachi right away.
And Current Kakashi>>Beginning of part II Kakashi.
Sorry.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
nope
minato can't speed blitz itachi coz itachi himself is fast
he can go on par w/ KM and B
so ur wrong  
and itachi>>>naruto km and minato
so after minato failing to speed blitz itachi
minato realizes that he is in tsukoyomi then bye minato
  1 HIT again
oh current kakashi?? what is a current kakashi??
so if ramen guy will say that he is not the same as b4
ramenguy>>>>madara??
HAHAHA what a logic man
ok
"dude im not the same as b4"
so that gurrantee kakashi's win?
kakashi can't even defeat sasuke
itachi>>>kakashi any version and current mode  
sorry to break ur bubble
Add to this the fact that he has improved his Sharingan skills a lot, a fact that he has much better stamina, add to this the fact that he now has Kamui and can spam it, add to this the fact that Itachi needed to resort to MS to beat non-MS Kakashi, add to this the fact that Kakashi outsmarted Itachi and add to this the fact that Kakashi can 1-hit-KO Itachi with Kamui just like Itachi can 1-hit-KO Kakashi with Amaterasu...
...and yes, this statement makes sense. 
Kakashi=Itachi
Minato>Kakashi
Minato>Itachi
Naruto>Kakashi
Naruto>Itachi
Nagato>>Kakashi
Nagato>>Itachi
Obito>>Kakashi
Obito>>Itachi
Deal with it, as I'm now stopping this offtopic on my part.
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Last edited by Takos; 11-14-2012 at 11:07 AM.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by Hokage Fourth
Please **** off out of NB.Your fanboyism gives Itachi a bad name
Well said....
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
The troll is banned now, yet another day saved by mods.
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Re: Kamui=Instant Kage Level
 Originally Posted by FACT Q
hahahaha
kakashi=itachi?
when did kakashi beat itachi??
beating his clone made by nagato???
hahaha oh he's not the one who even defeat it coz its naruto and let me correct ur list
kakashi=minato
itachi>minato
naruto>minato
naruto>kakashi
nagato>kakashi
nagato>minato
nagato=itachi
obito>kakashi
obito>minato
obito=>itachi
dont be butthurted to much
 
coz if u ask some one if kakashi and itachi is equal??
ur gonna HAVE A BAD TIME 
for me Kakashi>>>>>Itachi(High dif)
Minato>>>>Itachi(mid dif)
Nagato>>>itachi(Low dif)
Naruto>>>>Itachi(from mid to high dif)
Obito>>>>>Itachi(from mid to high dif)
The thing is that hes dead and Izanami is Low clas dojutsu that is worthles to use on Uchihas or anyone who has sharingun.
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