Sasuke with Perfect Susano'o?

[Sasuke Uchiha Susanoo]

Well it looks pretty clear, Sasuke has Itachi eyes, so it's possible for his weak Tsukuyomi to be advanced now, since Itachi was a genjutsu master. Plus he said he could feel Itachi's powers flowing through his body which means after he uses Susano'o now he will have Perfect Susano'o?

[★Waltz]

Nah, too OP for a technique he didn't work for.

[Sasuke Uchiha Susanoo]

Actually he's Kishi's favorite character, don't see the problem here xD

[doubledude]

Probably yeah, it's the only thing I can imagine that can fight on par with Naruto's BM.

[Noobastank]

He had a perfect sasunoo before his EMS by the way. he needs to stabilize his chakra like madara does and make it bigger.

[Sasuke Uchiha Susanoo]

Sooo he will keep his ranged form or since he transplanted Itachi's eyes in to him he will have a similar version to Itachi's?

[gameove]

he needs renni for p.f sossono

[Sarutobi Joshua]

His Susanoo has already advanced to a new level since gaining Itachi's eyes, weve seen it. But if you mean that monstrous thing that Madara brought out, then maybe, he needs the Rinnegan first. I could definately see him getting a giant gundam susanoo.

With Wings.

[Sasuke Uchiha Susanoo]

Wait a sec, so he revealed it in the Anime? Can you give me a link?

[VariaBossX]

He needs senju dna to maintain the the most op tech. that is were
white zetsu takes place

[Cursed Prince]

I personally think he needs rinnegan but he alreadh posses senju dna

['Nāpalm]

non existent since Sasuke doesn't have Rinnegan

[WOOD STYLE l MADARA]

yeah, he will get it.
as you know, there has to be a final showdown between naruto and sasuke.
this emo brat needs something to fight naruto's bm.

[rikerslade]

Actually he's Kishi's favorite character, don't see the problem here xD

Sasuke is his favorite to DRAW. Killer Bee and Shikamaru are his favorites.

OT: It's suitable, but kinda unlikely.

[rikerslade]

I personally think he needs rinnegan but he alreadh posses senju dna

non existent since Sasuke doesn't have Rinnegan

You don't need.Rinnegan for Perfect Susano'o.

[The Ultimate Super Sage]

only if kishi wants to use it to counter the nine tails otherwise never

[Fusion Reborn]

Rinnegan-

[PainTotheEarth]

this

[Noobastank]

I dont think you need rinnegan or Senju DNA for a sasuno madaras size. i just think thats madara and his EMS. i think because he has a massive ammount of chakra his sasunoo is soo big. i dont think it has anything to do with Rinnegan or Senju DNA. Sasuke had a perfect sasunoo before he got itachi's eyes.

Now his eyes have been further upgraded from this. now in my opinion he just needs more chakra reserve to make a bigger sasunoo.

[blazekev90]

Rinnegan-

you dont need it to possess perfect Susanoo

[ChocolateBear]

People need to read the manga again he doesn't need rinnegan to have perfect susanoo

[Sarutobi Joshua]

Wait a sec, so he revealed it in the Anime? Can you give me a link?

This is the Susanoo he attained after getting the EMS, the perfect Susanoo.

Heres the thing, the Susanoo that Madara popped out against the Kage's, we have no classification for it, it seems to be a level above "perfect" susanoo, like Noobastank already said, he has it.

Consider this, he attains PS in his fight with Kakashi, he gains an upg version of PS once he gains EMS, he'll probably be able to project it and stabilise it completely if he attains the Rinnegan. All three are PS, just differing levels of perfection,

[Khunka]

It requires Rinnegan ..

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

-_- Misinformed as always. . .


Let me just step in and clean up this :flaw: COWABUNGA F**K:flaw:. . .

Well lets see what we've got here, shall we. A lot of people are wondering about Sasuke's Final Susano'o being like Madara's Final Susano'o. Let me just clear things up here. . . SASUKE ALREADY HAS A FINAL SUSANO'O!!!

Now that the cat's outta the bag, Lets get to the proof.

Now lets look at the obvious. . . Astetics

We know that the susano'o goes through different stages of development. Ribcage>Incomplete>Complete>Final>Perfect Final (Stabolized).

As we hace seen, Sasuke has already aquired the final Susano'o.

Lets just compare it with Madara's and Itachi's to be clear.

Itachi's Final Susano'o

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/392/4

Madara's Ninal Susano'o

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/588/16

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/589/1

And Sasuke's Final Susano'o

MS version
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/484/9

EMS version
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/574/10

Now what does this prove. Well, visually they all look roughly the same. Same basic art design, same textural patterns, and same conditions for activation.

Now here's where the confusion seems to lye. There are two points of confusion. Full body V.S. Torso and Stability.

Lets look at the bodily structure first.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/574/10

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/588/16

Obviously, Madara's looks (and most likely IS) far superior to Sasuke's. But you ust remember, Susano'o Differs from one individual to the next. Itachi's Susano'o manifested the legendary weapons Totsuka blade & Yata Mirror. Sasuke has a sword that automatically activates his inferno style jutsu and sets ablaze anything it touches with Amaterasu! In Madara's case, he hasn't any spectacular weapons or anything, but what he DOES have is a Susano'o that can freely walk, run, JUMP!, AND CAST NINJUTSU BY ITSELF!!! Also notice that Madara NEVER ONCE manifested the torso alone in a COMPLETE form, but only in an incomplete form. When do we FINALLY See the complete Susano'o?

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/575/4

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/575/5

Now here's a question. . . WHY DIDN'T HE JUST USE THE COMPLETE TORSO AND SAVE SOME CHAKRA? He's already proven that he doesn't just go directly for the kill blow, but instead plays around with his prey. So why did he just go directly to a full body complete susano'o? I think the answerr's obvious. He CAN'T!!! If he goes beyond incomplete, he is forced to use the full body.

This information is here to clarify that the full body Susano'o is Exclusive to Madara, except for possibly Izuna, who was said t be equal in every way until Madara took his eyes.

Now for the debatable part. . . Stability.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/588/16

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/589

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/589/2


THIS is where Sasuke actually CAN further increase his Susano'o's power. Once the chakra is stabolized on a Susano'o, its physical appearance seems to change drastically and also gains another boost in power, as seen when Madarauses it and his Susano'o aquired new weapons AND got roughly 40-50 feet taller than the already overly massive unstabolized Final Susano'o. In this instance, the tecnique is NOT exclusive to Madara and ANYONE with a Susano'o that has matured into its Final form can achieve this ascended transformation with enough practice and chakra control. I believe THIS will be Sasuke's next power-up before he competes with Naruto.

And for those who still claim that Rinnegan is needed to attain a stabolized Final Susano'o. . . :flaw: DO SOME DAMN RESEARCH!!!:flaw:

This simple page is ALL the proof you need.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/589/4

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/592/4

These words spoken by Madara HIMSELF indirectly prove that he has used this insane tecnique in the past. If all who see the Final Susano'o die, then WHO THE HELL DID HE USE THAT THING ON??? Obviously someone OTHER than the 5 Kage and POSSIBLY Hashirama. And if you honestly think he needed Rinnegan to use it, take a look at this.

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/12

You think Madara was going to fight like THAT??? HELL NO!!!!!! Madara was practically DEAD at that point and had to attatch himself to the Mazou Statue in order to maintain his life. He couldn't even move. AND He had ALREADY given up his eyes to someone else (Nagato).

Now I know the next statement. . . "Well he could've been attacked along the way by some OP psycho. He could've used it then." If that were the case, he would've gotten mobbed and the world would know that Madara Uchiha is still alive!!! Honestly, how the HELL do you hide a f**king shadow warrior twice the size of the Statue of Liberty???. . . I rest my case. . .


Hopefully this clears things up for you. And I appologise for the length.

[Sarutobi Joshua]

To say that sasuke can stabilize his Susanoo to the same lvl as Madara without the rinnegan ,doesnt sound right, obviously he doesn't require the rinnegan to have the final (pardon my use of perfect previously), we've seen it. But Madara did activate his Rinnegan when transforming his Susanoo into it's final...err...perfect..the big one, so that would point to the Rinnegan being a requirement for achieving its top form.

But like you said he gained the Rinnegan when he was old as hell, and he did say that all who see it have died. But I'd argue that thats just some cold and epic shit to say to some people before you ice them lol. Theres a flaw that goes both ways, if someone says that the Rinnegan isnt a requirement, then it begs the question : Why did he activate it at the moment he did. On the flip side if it is a requirement, who the hell did he fight, and how did he have enough chakra to do this in the state he was in. Unless Kishi genuinely explains it to us, its all conjecture.