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    Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Itachi is undisputably a genius and an almost completely unrivalled genjutsu master, but how much of that is due to Shisui's eye?

    Shisui of the Shunshin was one of few Uchiha to have had the Mangekyou. His particular set of eyes was seemingly tailor-made for genjutsu. Among the numerous and powerful techniques he doubtless knew was Koto Amatsukami, a jutsu capable of convincing anyone that they truly believed something they previously didn't. This genjutsu is undetectable for the recipient, so if there are no witnesses it is a flawless brainwashing technique. Both of Shisui's eyes (left and right) posessed this ability.

    Itachi's left eye can cast Tsukuyomi which (as you probably know) traps its target in an illusory world where he can freely torture his target (or talk to them or something but why would he do that?) causing enough mental trauma to put targets in a coma, if not break their minds completely. Sasuke also posesses this ability (in his right eye) though it is FAR inferior to Itachi's as he cannot manipulate time within it, and it might be easier to break.

    Interestingly, the same eye Itachi uses to cast Tsukuyomi is the one he got from Shisui. Could this be a reason for his supremely powerful Tsukuyomi, even compared to his brother's? The eye Itachi used to cast Izanami was also his left. Is this a coincidence?

    EDIT: Possible misconception in that Shisui's eye can only be used once every ten years: Koto Amatsukami can only be used in that time-period. The lesser functions of the eye can be used at all times, though whether it enhances genjutsu and/or Tsukuyomi is why I created the thread.
     
         
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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    I thought Itachi just stowed Shisui's eye away, he didn't use it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    shisui's eye can only be used every ten years
     
         
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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    shisui's eye can only be used every ten years
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Itachi never use shusui's eye to fight others in battle. he is a high level genjutsu's user not because of shusui's eye but by himself. Itachi > minato
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    Itachi never use shusui's eye to fight others in battle. he is a high level genjutsu's user not because of shusui's eye but by himself. Itachi > minato
    This guy is right, Itachi never even used Shisui's eye.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Edited opening post a little, check it please.

    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    Itachi never use shusui's eye to fight others in battle. he is a high level genjutsu's user not because of shusui's eye but by himself. Itachi > minato
    First two sentences: Sure, yes, that's a legitimate view. Last sentence, though, has nothing at all to do with anything mentioned in this thread, as it's not a vs. thread and no-one has said anything about Minato before you did.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Itachi<Minato
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju clan24 View Post
    Itachi<Minato
    I was dreading this development.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratefish View Post
    Edited opening post a little, check it please.



    First two sentences: Sure, yes, that's a legitimate view. Last sentence, though, has nothing at all to do with anything mentioned in this thread, as it's not a vs. thread and no-one has said anything about Minato before you did.
    i just want to make you laugh but it's fail. don't take it so serious, bro!
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju clan24 View Post
    Itachi<Minato
    no, itachi don't even need ms to kick minato ass
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratefish View Post
    I was dreading this development.
    He started it lol Minato>Itachi
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    shisui's eye can only be used every ten years
    I believe it's only Shishui's Kotoamatsukami that can't be used for 10years after one use. He can still use his normal Sharingan or Ms genjutsu i believe
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Itachi skillfully used Shisui's eye against Naruto (when Naruto avoided his eyes/fingers)



    But Itachi's Tsukuyomi is used with his own eye (as is most of his genjutsu.)
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilt View Post
    Itachi skillfully used Shisui's eye against Naruto (when Naruto avoided his eyes/fingers)



    But Itachi's Tsukuyomi is used with his own eye (as is most of his genjutsu.)
    he only put shusui's eye to crow and sent to naruto's mouth by his own genjutsu. he didn't use KA
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    he only put shusui's eye to crow and sent to naruto's mouth by his own genjutsu. he didn't use KA
    Naruto wasn't looking at his eyes or hands, so Itachi used Shisui's eye to cast base Sharingan genjutsu, and then sealed the crow in him.
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilt View Post
    Naruto wasn't looking at his eyes or hands, so Itachi used Shisui's eye to cast base Sharingan genjutsu, and then sealed the crow in him.
    any proof? if itachi had done that he would have told bee and naruto about it since itachi told some bio of shusui to them
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Itachi is boss and he could also control people from long distance as was the case with the woman he send to jiraya sama
     
         

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    Re: Itachi *cheating* in Genjutsu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilt View Post
    Naruto wasn't looking at his eyes or hands, so Itachi used Shisui's eye to cast base Sharingan genjutsu, and then sealed the crow in him.
    Doesn't Itachi hold the Crow Summoning Contract? Did he Summon the crow or does he carry it around with him as it IS a very valuable eye...

    Also, Itachi's fabled finger genjutsu is revealed only moments before the crow is. Could he have hidden either a sharingan eyeball or the crow itself within view yet not TOO easily spotted and used that to trap Naruto? It makes about as much sense as him being able to cast sharingan-type genjutsu (applied via eye-contact) with his FINGERS.

    Don't mean to be rude November dude, but this is my first time making a thread directly about Itachi and I'm a bit nervous about rabid fanboys who would assume ANY threadmaker would consider it an honor to have his thread turn into an Itachi v Minato thread without any adequate reason.

    You sorta fit the profile, and I tried to scare you off.
     
         
    Last edited by Piratefish; 11-15-2012 at 08:37 AM.

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