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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
gatta say that konoha pwns.....here is what i think... make a 4 man team from konoha vs each village...that means tehre should be 4 4 man teams go....
i go with
minato
naruto
kakashi
jman
hiruzen for team 1 vs say the rock village(just for sensei team)
hashi
tobirama
tsunade
oro
whitefang vs say lightning vilage
madara
obito
itachi
shishui
izuna vs the water village
guy
sasuke
shadow clone of naruto
hyuga clan
rest of konoha
vs sand village
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
Top tier from konoha and top tier from the other villages:
Konoha-
Madara
Izuna
Hashirama
Tobirama
Hiruzen
Minato
Tsunade
Danzo
Kakashi
Gai
Shisui
Itachi
Sasuke
Naruto
Obito
Orochimaru
Jiraiya
Asuma
Sai
Sakura
Neji
Rock lee
Ten Ten
Kiba
Shino
Hinata
Ino
Shikamaru
Choji
Old Ino,Shika,Cho.
Mito
Kushina
Anko
Top tier other villages-
Nagato
Konan
Yahiko
Kisame
Deidara
Sasori
Chiyo
Hidan
Kakuzu
Temari
Kankuro
Mizukages (Including the second on par with muu)
Tsuchikage (Including Muu)
Kazekages (Including Gaara and the third)
Raikages (Including the third and A)
Bee
Darui
C
7 Swordmen of the mist
Kimimaro & Sound 4
Juugo
Suigetsu
Haku
Hanzo
Gin/Kin Bros.
The will be more fighting but I just listed the top tier that I remembered,
its hard for me to decide but Id say konoha would lose.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by SakuXNaru
EVERYONE in konoha's history is alive
orochimaru? also leaf villiage would win.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
I think that konoha would win.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
The Uchiha and Senju clans are the most powerful clans in the series and there's a good reason, they're descendants of the Rikudou Sennin. On top of that, the Uzumaki are related to the Senju so they would ally with Konoha and you have Hiruzen and Minato as the non-senju non-uchiha Hokages who are extremely powerful, not to mention Konoha has the most powerful Biju Kurama who can solo the other Biju. Konoha only needs Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, young Hokage Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade, current Naruto, and EMS Sasuke and they will rape the other villages no difficulty.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by minator93
Following Shinobi Team SOLOS all other villages -
1. Shodie Hashirama
2. Uchiha Madara [PSS + Rinnegan]
3. Nidaime Tobirama [ET + S/T]
4. Sandaime Hiruzen [Prime]
5. Yondaime Minato [Fugin Jutsus + FTG]
6. BM Naruto
they need more help than just that....my opinion
 Originally Posted by jmnaruto12
lol Naruto himself is a GREAT asset for Konoha. He can make KM and SM clones that beat MOST people in other villages. lol say if he was to make 20KM clones and 30 SM clones. Not many people can beat KM Naruto. The people who can are on his side lol. Konoha RAPES they got like 9 out of 10 top ten shonobi!!! Madara (withPS clones) Naruto (with clones) could solo 1 or 2 villages themselves. While 1st hokage, Sauske, Oro and a few Naruto clones take out another. Team Konoha shonobi with the right teams and they could take down villages.
true clones can help alot
madara cant use ps clones if he isnt edo...though kabuto/oro/tobirama is on the team and can make the whole team edo tensai
 Originally Posted by cptenn94
gatta say that konoha pwns.....here is what i think... make a 4 man team from konoha vs each village...that means tehre should be 4 4 man teams go....
i go with
minato
naruto
kakashi
jman
hiruzen for team 1 vs say the rock village(just for sensei team)
hashi
tobirama
tsunade
oro
whitefang vs say lightning vilage
madara
obito
itachi
shishui
izuna vs the water village
guy
sasuke
shadow clone of naruto
hyuga clan
rest of konoha
vs sand village
weird 5 man teams...they're unbalanced lol
 Originally Posted by hatake axel
Top tier from konoha and top tier from the other villages:
Konoha-
Madara
Izuna
Hashirama
Tobirama
Hiruzen
Minato
Tsunade
Danzo
Kakashi
Gai
Shisui
Itachi
Sasuke
Naruto
Obito
Orochimaru
Jiraiya
Asuma
Sai
Sakura
Neji
Rock lee
Ten Ten
Kiba
Shino
Hinata
Ino
Shikamaru
Choji
Old Ino,Shika,Cho.
Mito
Kushina
Anko
Top tier other villages-
Nagato
Konan
Yahiko
Kisame
Deidara
Sasori
Chiyo
Hidan
Kakuzu
Temari
Kankuro
Mizukages (Including the second on par with muu)
Tsuchikage (Including Muu)
Kazekages (Including Gaara and the third)
Raikages (Including the third and A)
Bee
Darui
C
7 Swordmen of the mist
Kimimaro & Sound 4
Juugo
Suigetsu
Haku
Hanzo
Gin/Kin Bros.
The will be more fighting but I just listed the top tier that I remembered,
its hard for me to decide but Id say konoha would lose.
ill list the main threats that you listed
nagato- totsuki blade (itachi's sword)
kisame- guy and km naruto owned him (if he transforms with samehada then tbb will finish him or guy's gates will finish him)
deidara- amaterasu should do the trick before he gets going and team konoha has kakashi and sasuke for lightning users
2nd mizukage- rasenshuriken SHOULD kill him because it attacks on a celluar level
oonoki- madara solo'd him with muu (dust release is useless because madara has prreta path)
muu- madara slo'd him with oonoki (dust release is useless because madara has preta path)
gaara- madara just beat him
A - km naruto had him beat
3rd raikage- rasenshuriken or the same thing used in the manga (sage mode to use his attack again himself)
bee- 9 tails>8 tails
hanzo- guy's gates or amaterasu
gin/kin bros - use amaterasu before they can use the tools
 Originally Posted by Makoto
The Uchiha and Senju clans are the most powerful clans in the series and there's a good reason, they're descendants of the Rikudou Sennin. On top of that, the Uzumaki are related to the Senju so they would ally with Konoha and you have Hiruzen and Minato as the non-senju non-uchiha Hokages who are extremely powerful, not to mention Konoha has the most powerful Biju Kurama who can solo the other Biju. Konoha only needs Madara, Hashirama, Tobirama, young Hokage Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade, current Naruto, and EMS Sasuke and they will rape the other villages no difficulty.
i cant see JUST them people SOLOING....they will be the key fighters but someonee needs to back them up
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by SakuXNaru
ill list the main threats that you listed
nagato- totsuki blade (itachi's sword) You really think it woul be that easy? the summons alone are a big tread
kisame- guy and km naruto owned him (if he transforms with samehada then tbb will finish him or guy's gates will finish him)So here is Naruto and he is in KM. With Samaheda an Naruto there Kisame its just like Tsunade in healing abilities
deidara- amaterasu should do the trick before he gets going and team konoha has kakashi and sasuke for lightning users Can this two Raiton User protect everyone else from all the bombs??
2nd mizukage- rasenshuriken SHOULD kill him because it attacks on a celluar levelYeah becasuse is damn easy to hit the Mizukage in that clam Genjutsu
oonoki- madara solo'd him with muu (dust release is useless because madara has prreta path)Tell that to the 25 Blown PS, with Kisame an other bijuus
to replenish chakra. It wont be hard to make so OP jintoons
muu- madara slo'd him with oonoki (dust release is useless because madara has preta path)
gaara- madara just beat him With the jintoon users on field not only would gaara woulnt have to worry about madara but his sand woul be faster as well
A - km naruto had him beatMaybe
3rd raikage- rasenshuriken or the same thing used in the manga (sage mode to use his attack again himself)Well wasnt he in KM if he is pn SM he would be finished by someone else
bee- 9 tails>8 tailshere is Naruto again. let us not forget sasori and the third kazekage
hanzo- guy's gates or amaterasuGai again? Raikages> Gai. Gai isnt imune to pison either. If hanzo > 3 Sannins . what makes you think Gai> hanzo?
gin/kin bros - use amaterasu before they can use the toolsHow many amaterasu users do we have? and you by the time one gets on fire the other would crush that pitty uchiha
Ps Deidaras Suicide bomb
and Sasoris 100 puppets would take out much of konoha
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
So you are deciding to give Konoha ninjas that defected from the village? Well Kabuto with his edo tensei army could take out quite a few unless of course edos are restricted. In that case, all 5 hokages, Naruto and a few other kage level ninjas should be able to solo all the other villages but bare in mind we haven't seen a lot of ninjas from other villages in action. The first Mizukage, the first Tsuchikage, the first Raikage, etc are all mysteries so we can't say Konoha solos.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by hatake axel
Ps Deidaras Suicide bomb
and Sasoris 100 puppets would take out much of konoha
hanzo- do you think hanzo can take 7 gates??? or hashirama can use wood pollen OR better yet, shisui can use his KA (only if necessary because his eye can be used for something better)
deidara- you still didnt answer amaterasu...and if he uses c4 then sasuke kabuto or oro can sacrifice their snake summon (like in the manga)
sasori- shisui uchiha can use his MS and control sasori and his 100 puppets
nagato- i doubt itachi will fight by his self (he'll lose) SO minato will help....all of nagato's paths (except deva) are useless against minato...minato can use contract seal so nagato wont be able to use summons anymore
2nd mizukage- naruto is immune to genjutsu AND he is a sensor ninja NICE TRY lol
oonoki- the 5 kages were helping oonoki AND those werent PS clones, just regular susano clones....BTW what about preta path absorbing dust release???? ALSO space time barrier from minato can counter dust release
gaara- the sand will be a problem but hashirama's wood>sand OR obito can take care of gaara...gaara isnt fast to avoid
3rd raikage- naruto can just use tbb then (he couldnt use it at the time he was fight the 3rd raikage)
gin/kin bros- 2 amaterasu users AND if amaterasu doesnt work, what is gin/kin bros counter for tsukuyomi????
bee- ??? 9 tails>8 tails like i said
what is the 3rd kazekages power??
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by Icelerate
So you are deciding to give Konoha ninjas that defected from the village? Well Kabuto with his edo tensei army could take out quite a few unless of course edos are restricted. In that case, all 5 hokages, Naruto and a few other kage level ninjas should be able to solo all the other villages but bare in mind we haven't seen a lot of ninjas from other villages in action. The first Mizukage, the first Tsuchikage, the first Raikage, etc are all mysteries so we can't say Konoha solos.
its allowed
edo tensai is 95% useless THERE IS NO ONE TO REVIVE
BUT kabuto can kill team konoha and revive everyone to make TEAM EDO KONOHA
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by SakuXNaru
hanzo- do you think hanzo can take 7 gates??? or hashirama can use wood pollen OR better yet, shisui can use his KA (only if necessary because his eye can be used for something better)
deidara- you still didnt answer amaterasu...and if he uses c4 then sasuke kabuto or oro can sacrifice their snake summon (like in the manga)
sasori- shisui uchiha can use his MS and control sasori and his 100 puppets
nagato- i doubt itachi will fight by his self (he'll lose) SO minato will help....all of nagato's paths (except deva) are useless against minato...minato can use contract seal so nagato wont be able to use summons anymore
2nd mizukage- naruto is immune to genjutsu AND he is a sensor ninja NICE TRY lol
oonoki- the 5 kages were helping oonoki AND those werent PS clones, just regular susano clones....BTW what about preta path absorbing dust release???? ALSO space time barrier from minato can counter dust release
gaara- the sand will be a problem but hashirama's wood>sand OR obito can take care of gaara...gaara isnt fast to avoid
3rd raikage- naruto can just use tbb then (he couldnt use it at the time he was fight the 3rd raikage)
gin/kin bros- 2 amaterasu users AND if amaterasu doesnt work, what is gin/kin bros counter for tsukuyomi????
bee- ??? 9 tails>8 tails like i said
what is the 3rd kazekages power??
Deidara is usually way above thr ground with a huge field of vision.
I have to admit I have no counter for amaterasu. But Nagato can sense when its getting cast.
He would surely warn Deidara.
Hanzo- he has paralizing ppison againts 7 gates. What does Gai have againts pison?
If Tsukoyomi cant affect sasori why would KA? its been debated here. Genjutsu is useless on Sasori lol
Useless? Preta path. can absor infinite chakra.
Human can one shot anyone.
Naraka restores.
And Gives uber taijutsu.
all that in one body. how is that useless?
Yeah forgot about Naruto being top sensor. give you that one.
The guy who can only be hurt by his own attack an fought the 8 tails would be destroyed
by a TBB that only managed to break a wooden mask.
So either itachi or sasuke is fighting sasori and gin kin bros at tha same time?
like i said. as if 8 tail would fight 9 tails alone.
ohh and its iron sand. a kkg that makes ninja tules useless
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
Konoha is the main village so obviously we are gonna see more ninja from them.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
Konoha Solos.
Once the konoha ninja spread Minato's Kunai around the battlefield, he literally solos all of the enemy fodder ninja.
Even if he runs low on chakra, Kurama can presumably give him more; so all he has to do is teleport to Naruto, get some chakra, then go back to raping the fodder.
While Minato destroys the fodder (With occasional chakra from Kurama) you got people like Hashirama, Madara, Hiruzen, Itachi, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Tobirama, Kakashi, Gai, Sasuke, Danzo, Naruto, Ino-Shika-Cho, K11... the list goes on. You got all of these guys to handle the top ninja from the other villages, and the average ninja from the other villages as well.
Some of the greatest thinkers and strategists are in Konoha. The Nara clan, Kakashi, Itachi, Minato etc. Konoha has so many advantages, it isn't even funny.
Tsunade can summon Katsuya and have her multiply to heal the wounded simultaneously. Jiraiya, Naruto, and Minato can summon an army of toads from Mount Myoboku. You got three Susanoo on the battlefield (Sasuke, Itachi, Madara); and one of these is a Perfect Susanoo, which could destroy an entire village with ease.
Naruto's KCM shadow clones rape.
You got two people (Three if you include Kabuto) that are capable of using Edo Tensei. You got the Senju clan, Hashirama's wood release, and Yamato's weaker wood release. If you include the Uzumaki clan as part of Konoha (this is questionable) then you got the best seals to ever exist in the Narutoverse also in Konoha's favor.
You got a couple of fastest ninja in the manga from Konoha.
We just haven't seen enough from the other villages for them to even compete with the versatility of the Konoha ninja; alive and dead. I probably haven't even listed everything Konoha has to offer, and they still take this with little difficulty.
Konoha solos.
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by hatake axel
Deidara is usually way above thr ground with a huge field of vision.
I have to admit I have no counter for amaterasu. But Nagato can sense when its getting cast.
He would surely warn Deidara.
Hanzo- he has paralizing ppison againts 7 gates. What does Gai have againts pison?
If Tsukoyomi cant affect sasori why would KA? its been debated here. Genjutsu is useless on Sasori lol
Useless? Preta path. can absor infinite chakra.
Human can one shot anyone.
Naraka restores.
And Gives uber taijutsu.
all that in one body. how is that useless?
Yeah forgot about Naruto being top sensor. give you that one.
The guy who can only be hurt by his own attack an fought the 8 tails would be destroyed
by a TBB that only managed to break a wooden mask.
So either itachi or sasuke is fighting sasori and gin kin bros at tha same time?
like i said. as if 8 tail would fight 9 tails alone.
ohh and its iron sand. a kkg that makes ninja tules useless
Hanzo..... .u didnt answer about hashirama's wood
A warning Cant help deidara dodge lol
Do you have proof that sasori is imune to genjutsu?
I didnt say nagato was useless.....I said nagato's ATTACKS r useless against minato (how can nagato touch minato??)
Madara perfect susano sword slash>> 3rd kazekage
Who will help bee? That can face kurama
Sasuke can spam amaterasu so he can solo gin/kin bros ....they dont have edo tensai helping them if they lose an srm this time
Rasenshuriken almost killed 3rd raikage if it wasnt for Edo tensai....imagine what naeuros tbb will do
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by SakuXNaru
Hanzo..... .u didnt answer about hashirama's wood
A warning Cant help deidara dodge lol
Do you have proof that sasori is imune to genjutsu?
I didnt say nagato was useless.....I said nagato's ATTACKS r useless against minato (how can nagato touch minato??)
Madara perfect susano sword slash>> 3rd kazekage
Who will help bee? That can face kurama
Sasuke can spam amaterasu so he can solo gin/kin bros ....they dont have edo tensai helping them if they lose an srm this time
Rasenshuriken almost killed 3rd raikage if it wasnt for Edo tensai....imagine what naeuros tbb will do
I agree that Konoha would win lol
I just wanted to debate a little.
Madara alone has the same Mokuton has Hashi and same Rinnegan as Nagato.
I displayed the 3 Sannins and Kabuto who would practicaly revive and power
up konoha xD
just one thing. Wach out!!
I said the same thing about Sasori on
a Itachi Vs Sasori debate and got so many
BS replies xD
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
yup kabuto can make team edo konoha....it'll be tbb, amaterasu, meteors, kamui, rasengans, wood, PS sword slash, 1000 susano clones AND 1000 bm naruto clones EVERYWHERE......RAPE lol
thats why i kinda didnt wanna bring up edo tensai lol
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
Konoha utterly rapes. In fact, Madara solos
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
The following Solo:
1.Shodaime Hokage
2.Madara Uchiha(PS+Rinnengan and Mokuton)
3.Hiruzen(Prime)
4.Jiraiya
5.Orochimaru
6.Naruto BM
7.Sasuke EMS
8. Obito(Mangeyko Sharingan)
9.Itachi
10. Shisui
11. Izuna
12.Sakumo Hatake
13.Nidaime Hokage
14. Yondaime Hokage
15.Kakashi
16. Might Gai
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Re: The Leaf VS All 4 Other Villages
 Originally Posted by SakuXNaru
IF NOBODY FROM KONOHA DIED
AND NOBODY FROM OTHER VILLAGES DIED EITHER
can konoha beat all 4 other villages together???
these are main people for konoha, ill list as many as i can (all were from konoha)
kabuto (WASNT HE FROM KONOHA??? i cant remember)
naruto
rinnegan madara
izuna uchiha
obito
hashirama
tobirama
minato
itachi
sasuke
kakashi
guy
shishu uchiha
danzo
hiruzen
orochimaru
jiriaya
tsunade
kakashi's dad 
anko
konoha 11 (with sai)
konoha's elder (they helped fight kyuubi.....i guess)
asuma
ibaki
ebisu
konohamaru
the two guys that stay at konoha's gate (they helped fight hidan and kakuzu)
AND SOME MORE
WILL KONOHA BE ABLE TO FIGHT THE OTHER 4 VILLAGES???
Tobirama revives everybody from the Senju, Uzumaki, and Uchiha clans who were of notable power that died before Konoha was formed (Kabuto probably doesn't know THAT much, and if Orochimaru's still alive then he doesn't use Edo Tensei either). They may be significantly weaker than they were before, but they're Senju, Uchiha, and Uzumaki not to mention their numbers. Or the Uzumaki spam seals and easily win; either way Konoha wins low-diff.
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