Let's Be Logical

[ninjastormgenaration33]

I know fanboys and haters overrate and underrate,but being honest with ourselves and using logic,Sasuke owns Jiraiya.

Sasuke's moveset is just to OPed.He still has unknown EMS abilities,and Sasuno&Amaterasu is to OPed.His Tsukyomi is a weaker version,but it still helps.He also has his hawk summoning,Great Fire&Lighting style and he's smart.

But Sasuke is a spammer and Jiraiya has no counter for a Sasuno Arrow or Amaterasu and it takes him wayyyyyy to long to enter SM,but he still loses in SM.Sasuno can easily tank all his attacks

So who agrees Sasuke>Jiraiya and if not,please use a logical answer

[mikeeozua]

Who ever said Jiraiya>Sasuke? I like Jiriaya and all but to be honest this is obvious

[IKSOKRIPS]

Yeah, if I'm in Fan Mode I would say that Jiraiya wins cuz, he is like my third favorite character. :shrug:

But, yeah, he will lose.

[Chatte]

I know fanboys and haters overrate and underrate,but being honest with ourselves and using logic,Sasuke owns Jiraiya.

Sasuke's moveset is just to OPed.He still has unknown EMS abilities,and Sasuno&Amaterasu is to OPed.His Tsukyomi is a weaker version,but it still helps.He also has his hawk summoning,Great Fire&Lighting style and he's smart.

But Sasuke is a spammer and Jiraiya has no counter for a Sasuno Arrow or Amaterasu and it takes him wayyyyyy to long to enter SM,but he still loses in SM.Sasuno can easily tank all his attacks

So who agrees Sasuke>Jiraiya and if not,please use a logical answer

Well, the arrow can simply be smashed with fog kata, to be honest.
But the rest, Sasuke being a spammer, dunno how it will work, to be honest.
Though Jiraya does have the Evil Fire Sealing Technique for Amaterasu.
And seriously now, Jiraiya isn't stupid either.

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Ems roflstomps?

[Tsunade no Sama]

Well thinking logically, Sasuke is a natural strategist though not on the level of his brother. He would pretty much give Jiraiya-sama a run for his money. I for sure am certain that Jiraiya-sama won't go down that easily but knowing he has a weakness in Genjutsu he might go down easily if Sasuke can figure that out and exploit it although Sasuke is more of a brute force type of Guy compared to Itachi who preferred to use less drastic measures.

[Seraphîm]

I think Jiraiya can take a win. (Won't bother explaining)

[u wanna die]

I know fanboys and haters overrate and underrate,but being honest with ourselves and using logic,Sasuke owns Jiraiya.

Sasuke's moveset is just to OPed.He still has unknown EMS abilities,and Sasuno&Amaterasu is to OPed.His Tsukyomi is a weaker version,but it still helps.He also has his hawk summoning,Great Fire&Lighting style and he's smart.

But Sasuke is a spammer and Jiraiya has no counter for a Sasuno Arrow or Amaterasu and it takes him wayyyyyy to long to enter SM,but he still loses in SM.Sasuno can easily tank all his attacks

So who agrees Sasuke>Jiraiya and if not,please use a logical answer

haha long over due... sasuke > jman

[rikerslade]

It will be hard, but I think Sasuke can beat Jiraiya.

[Prince of Persia TTT]

I think Jiraiya can take a win. (Won't bother explaining)

that is indeed a logical reply

[Seraphîm]

that is indeed a logical reply

One of the most logical you'll probably see in a Sasuke thread.

[YellowFang]

Plot wise, it's quite possible but logically.... Jiraiya could have defeated Pain if it wasn't for his secret...that's enough said!

[★Susano'o]

Agree with OT.

[spade3dg]

Next your gonna say sakura will curb stomp Lord Orochimaru. Sannin with old hiruzen> team 7 with kakashi.

Yes im high.

[Katkot]

Sorry but u don't have logic ...

Jiraya > sasuke

[Ritsu]

Sasuke wins. I agree with you.

[Dihajum3]

Sasuke takes this. I'm a Huge Jiraiya Fan but far from being a fanboy. I don't think even kishi realizes how OP he made MS/EMS.

[CamW]

I agree that Sasuke would win. Mainly because susanoo tanks all of jiraiyas attacks as you said

Would Sasuke be susceptible to the Toad sages sound genjutsu?

[AlastorNazura17]

Hard choice... but you all are underestimating Jiraiya to much. But I guess since Sasuke does spam, it'll be hard for Jiraiya to even do anything to him.

[KGB Kakuzu]

To be honest Pain said that Jiraiya would have won had he known the secret....that's got to hold immense credibility towards Jiraiya considering how strong we know Pain is.

Jiraiya can deal Amaterasu, and he has his hair technique that could be used on Susonoo like he did the crab. Now with Sasuke having the EMS now it is more than likely Sasuke's ability to spam the techs in addition to large chakra and intelligence probably had too many OP moves for Jiraiya to win, but out of ten fights I'd still give Jiraiya around 3 or 4 wins!

[Simple Math]

well, debateable..

[-Jiraiya-]

Hmmm..
Sasuke might win, mainly because of his wrecked sharingan and amaterasu/susanoo spam
But look on this side, Sasuke, before ems, was practically killed once by Killer B, and again by Killer B in TB mode..:shrug:

So, its difficult to tell..:shrug:

[Anakin Skywalker]

This sasuke vs Jiraiya match up can easily go either way

1.) Sasuke catches Jiraiya off guard with no prior warning and no SM then yes sasuke would win mid diff (its not an easy win as you have said)

2.) Jiraiya knows sasuke is coming to get his and see him in a long range then its Jiraiya's win high diff

reasons.: the moment he sees or senses sasuke he would start to summon ma and pa and go into sage mode

you might ask how Jiraiya is going to take care of sasuke until the summons complete.... well he did evade the animal path, his summons (a multiheaded dog, a bull and a bird better than any hawk) with his hands tied
proof

in this image you can see that he can create a barrier jutsu by using his legs

Now its not gonna be smooth sailing for Jman after SM but he has a high chance now
Jman's speed,agility and strength greatly increases ...he practically took out a path of pain with a single kick

You can take out Sasuke's genjutsu -> bcos even if Jman is caught in Genjutsu ma or pa can break him out of it also vice versa

Jman has his fire sealing tech to take care of amaterasu

Jman has swamp of the underworld tech to counter susanoo ,....

Now is sasuke's susanoo arrow vs Jman speed and strength to break susanoo pretty tight match if you ask me

and jman doesn't even have to directly attack him he could ask ma and pa to activate Toad Song and evade sasuke's attacks for a min then its good night for sasuke

i'm not saying Jman would surely win but its highly debatable and Jman has 50-50 chance IMO

[Yusuke Urameshi]

I feel like people underestimate Jiraiya just cuz he's seen as a fun- loving perv.

[Boskarta]

I think Jiraiya can take a win. (Won't bother explaining)

I agree he can win but I'd say 8 times out of 10 Sasuke does win.
Itachi was against taking on even a weakened Jiraiya because he's not to be underestimated.

But Sasuke just has too many unfair abilities.

If Jiraiya started in SM it would be a different story or if the battle was in a location like where he fought Pain so he could hide until he activates SM.


Also, Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi not sure why people still say that.