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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Hmmm..
    Sasuke might win, mainly because of his wrecked sharingan and amaterasu/susanoo spam
    But look on this side, Sasuke, before ems, was practically killed once by Killer B, and again by Killer B in TB mode..:shrug:

    So, its difficult to tell..:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    This sasuke vs Jiraiya match up can easily go either way

    1.) Sasuke catches Jiraiya off guard with no prior warning and no SM then yes sasuke would win mid diff (its not an easy win as you have said)

    2.) Jiraiya knows sasuke is coming to get his and see him in a long range then its Jiraiya's win high diff

    reasons.: the moment he sees or senses sasuke he would start to summon ma and pa and go into sage mode

    you might ask how Jiraiya is going to take care of sasuke until the summons complete.... well he did evade the animal path, his summons (a multiheaded dog, a bull and a bird better than any hawk) with his hands tied
    proof

    in this image you can see that he can create a barrier jutsu by using his legs






    Now its not gonna be smooth sailing for Jman after SM but he has a high chance now
    Jman's speed,agility and strength greatly increases ...he practically took out a path of pain with a single kick

    You can take out Sasuke's genjutsu -> bcos even if Jman is caught in Genjutsu ma or pa can break him out of it also vice versa

    Jman has his fire sealing tech to take care of amaterasu

    Jman has swamp of the underworld tech to counter susanoo ,....

    Now is sasuke's susanoo arrow vs Jman speed and strength to break susanoo pretty tight match if you ask me

    and jman doesn't even have to directly attack him he could ask ma and pa to activate Toad Song and evade sasuke's attacks for a min then its good night for sasuke

    i'm not saying Jman would surely win but its highly debatable and Jman has 50-50 chance IMO
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    I feel like people underestimate Jiraiya just cuz he's seen as a fun- loving perv.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by -Odin- View Post
    I think Jiraiya can take a win. (Won't bother explaining)

    I agree he can win but I'd say 8 times out of 10 Sasuke does win.
    Itachi was against taking on even a weakened Jiraiya because he's not to be underestimated.

    But Sasuke just has too many unfair abilities.

    If Jiraiya started in SM it would be a different story or if the battle was in a location like where he fought Pain so he could hide until he activates SM.


    Also, Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi not sure why people still say that.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by -Odin- View Post
    I think Jiraiya can take a win. (Won't bother explaining)
    gtfo
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by PainTotheEarth View Post
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    Oh really? Than you must be one of those people who don't use logic.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by Boskarta View Post
    I agree he can win but I'd say 8 times out of 10 Sasuke does win.
    Itachi was against taking on even a weakened Jiraiya because he's not to be underestimated.

    But Sasuke just has too many unfair abilities.

    If Jiraiya started in SM it would be a different story or if the battle was in a location like where he fought Pain so he could hide until he activates SM.


    Also, Sasuke doesn't have Tsukiyomi not sure why people still say that.
    he have tsukiyomi dumass gtfo if you don't know sh*t
    look at narutowiki and search tsukiyomi : users *SASUKE* oh wait??.... he has it ******
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Oh really? Than you must be one of those people who don't use logic.
    jiraiya can't win! its just true..EMS vs SM haahhahaha **** of with that old man(no hate)
    sasuke>>>>>>jiraiya sorry for u
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    no one can say that until those two fight
    you forget the parameter of experience .
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Jman Axe stomps Sasuke. 1 Hit defeat

    Sasugay loses.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    It can go either way depending largely on the use of plot-no-jutsu, but Sasuke definitely has the upper hand.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by Cho View Post
    Well thinking logically, Sasuke is a natural strategist though not on the level of his brother. He would pretty much give Jiraiya-sama a run for his money. I for sure am certain that Jiraiya-sama won't go down that easily but knowing he has a weakness in Genjutsu he might go down easily if Sasuke can figure that out and exploit it although Sasuke is more of a brute force type of Guy compared to Itachi who preferred to use less drastic measures.
    But even if Jman get caught in a Genjutsu, won't Ma & Pa be able to snap him out of it?
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by PainTotheEarth View Post
    gtfo
    And that's why I don't bother debating anymore.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Of Thy Soul View Post
    Ems roflstomps?
    EMS roflstomps soundly.


    1. Jiraiya isn't dodging Amaterasu



    2. Sasuke's Amaterasu is hax.





    this is just one facet of Sasuke's power

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by PainTotheEarth View Post
    jiraiya can't win! its just true..EMS vs SM haahhahaha **** of with that old man(no hate)
    sasuke>>>>>>jiraiya sorry for u
    I'll just quote Odin this time...

    Quote Originally Posted by -Odin- View Post
    And that's why I don't bother debating anymore.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Even the name sannin wont help the pervy sage
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

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    gtfo
    Because he has a different opinion ?
    And people ask why the world is suffering.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjastormgenaration33 View Post
    I know fanboys and haters overrate and underrate,but being honest with ourselves and using logic,Sasuke owns Jiraiya.

    Sasuke's moveset is just to OPed.He still has unknown EMS abilities,and Sasuno&Amaterasu is to OPed.His Tsukyomi is a weaker version,but it still helps.He also has his hawk summoning,Great Fire&Lighting style and he's smart.

    But Sasuke is a spammer and Jiraiya has no counter for a Sasuno Arrow or Amaterasu and it takes him wayyyyyy to long to enter SM,but he still loses in SM.Sasuno can easily tank all his attacks

    So who agrees Sasuke>Jiraiya and if not,please use a logical answer
    Susanoo does nothing against Ma and Pa's toad genjutsu.

    Both have chances to kill each other.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by -Jiraiya- View Post
    Hmmm..
    Sasuke might win, mainly because of his wrecked sharingan and amaterasu/susanoo spam
    But look on this side, Sasuke, before ems, was practically killed once by Killer B, and again by Killer B in TB mode..:shrug:

    So, its difficult to tell..:shrug:
    Sasuke had the advantage the moment he awakened amaterasu, not to mention he didn't have Susano'o yet. So basically Bee owned 3-tomoe Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Let's Be Logical

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeozua View Post
    Who ever said Jiraiya>Sasuke? I like Jiriaya and all but to be honest this is obvious
    No one said that we are just comparing and I think sasuke would win
     
         

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