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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

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    Yes. To get WOOD Release you must have water release as well. Don't spew that BUT BUT DNA. No. He used Earth Release before. He can use Water Release as well. His Suiton would be more powerful than Tobirama due to the enhanced body and such.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade View Post
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    Yes. To get WOOD Release you must have water release as well. Don't spew that BUT BUT DNA. No. He used Earth Release before. He can use Water Release as well. His Suiton would be more powerful than Tobirama due to the enhanced body and such.
    Okay
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Kisame for sure.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurrinB View Post
    Kisame for sure.
    Are you sure? Please explain why you think so.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Going from feats, Kisame is. Yes, Tobirama has hype of his Water Release being the best, but all we have seen is one mediocre Water Style jutsu that was less than impressive. If we are still going by feats, Mei is second as she was able to extinguish Madara Uchiha's Fire Release. Uchiha's have been shown to have mastery over their Fire Release so this shows she has powerful water release, also able to form the handseal quickly and counter again with no body of water available.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    He was a legend for his water release skills!

    Plus i think Tobirama would stomp the floor with Kisame!
     
         

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    1. Kisame
    2. Mei
    3. Tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Tobirama... hokage rank and best
     
         

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    I can't choose Kisame or Tobirama
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Tobirama is the best suiton user because he can use a water technique that requires alot of handseals (Water Dragon) with just one hand sign.Also he can use any suiton jutsu without a water source.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Dont forget mei her suiton was powerful enough to counter the greatest katon user madara
    Mei has also strong suiton jutsus
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    I would say Tobirama. Though he didn't show any remarkable feats, a fodder Anbu praised Tobiramas ability to create water without a source - being a "miracle" in the old series but an expected performance by any Suiton user in Shippuuden.

    Damn, that rumor about Tobiramas impressive Suiton is nothing but a huge misconception. The fodder Anbu praised Tobirama to be a good Suiton user 'cause he's able to create water without a source.

    That was the Jutsu of Tobirama, the Anbu referred to:




    lmao, the Anbu is flashed from the idea, that Tobirama used such a "high level" of Suiton in a place where there is no water. That feat however is something every Suiton user can demonstrate at the current story...
    Whether feats or hype, Tobirama is nowhere near the best Suiton user.
     
         
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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Mei also was able to create huge waters without a water source against madaras powerful katon jutsu

     
         
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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kisame by feats.

    Tobirama by hype



    Did you forget when kisame flooded a desert against Gai and his team?


    I agree with everything this guy said
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverblade View Post
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    Yes. To get WOOD Release you must have water release as well. Don't spew that BUT BUT DNA. No. He used Earth Release before. He can use Water Release as well. His Suiton would be more powerful than Tobirama due to the enhanced body and such.
    very good point sir
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    in what way?
    mei did the same thing. EXACTLY the same thing. and you ignored that for absolutely no reason except your a fanboy. using suiton without a water source is expected of elite jounins and kages
    Me a Tobirama fanboy?Far from it Mei is also a good suiton user and so is Kisame.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

    I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

    By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Until shown how good Tobirama is, then I'm gonna say Kisame.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

    I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

    By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.
    Which is exactly what Mei did and to a much larger scale. Tobirama may have been weakened but look at the size of madara's katon and compare that to hiruzens. For me that outways the fact that he was weakened. For me, by feats, Mei > Tobirama. But thats just me.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

    I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

    By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.
    The difference is that the Mokuton can be used from a small tendril growing from the ground up to a forest that covers a landscape. Not even Kisame, who truly has Biju level Chakra, has achieved something even comparable to it. Their power was perhaps watered down but what does it say about the scale of their power? In the area they were, Hashirama also managed to cover it completely, sadly the Oto Quartet limited the space to act. Tobirama was an Edo with limitless Chakra and countered a Katon technique of an old Hiruzen that had anything but a large scale. In fact Tobirama didn't show impressive skills with Suiton, and the Anbus statement was just hyperbole. The scale of Kisames Suiton is not only formidable, it has special properties like absorbing Chakra, in order to obtain more power.

    Tobiramas Suiton technique vs. Kisames Suiton technique of the same scale -> Kisames Suiton absorbs the power of Tobiramas Suiton and grows in strength by the scale of Tobiramas attack.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Creating water? Dude it would take a nuclear reaction to do that, let's say condensing water in the air, even that is a feat so Tobirama
     
         

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