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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Weakened Edo Tobirama managed to nullify the Sandaime Hokage's katon jutsu whereas Kisame failed to kill fodder like Tenten even when she was carrying something on her back. This is all that those pictures are saying.
    Great argument bro, I bet you're the smartest kid on the short bus aren't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kisame was only 30% of his max chakra, Not 70%
    According to this Pain only took 30 percent.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

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    Great argument bro, I bet you're the smartest kid on the short bus aren't you?
    You too.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    tobirama bro
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

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    tobirama bro
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yo pappy View Post
    Great argument bro, I bet you're the smartest kid on the short bus aren't you?


    According to this Pain only took 30 percent.
    Thats what i said, Pain/Nagato took 30% of their total chakra's and put it into the clones.

    Edit: Well i Guess it depends how you read it i Guess, It could of been 70% instead of 30%
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Both Tobirama/Hashirama were brought back with their full powers, They just never got the chance to use them because Oro was only "Toying" with Hiruzen.
    Once again, Kabuto improved upon Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, so I doubt that's true. Orochimaru is shown telling the Edo's to "stop him now" (he's referring to Hiruzen when he told Enma to transform); do you really think Hiruzen who was just under 70 years old would've survived if both Hashirama and Tobirama (in their prime, and Edo's with their full power is > their prime anyways) were really in a dire situation and had to "stop him now"? Once again, Hashirama alone is stated to be more of a match to Madara than the current 5 Kage were.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Once again, Kabuto improved upon Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, so I doubt that's true. Orochimaru is shown telling the Edo's to "stop him now" (he's referring to Hiruzen when he told Enma to transform); do you really think Hiruzen who was just under 70 years old would've survived if both Hashirama and Tobirama (in their prime, and Edo's with their full power is > their prime anyways) were really in a dire situation and had to "stop him now"? Once again, Hashirama alone is stated to be more of a match to Madara than the current 5 Kage were.
    Kabuto Stated he perfected it, I see no reason why kabuto would lie about this.

    Oro was never shown telling Edo Tobirama/Hashirama to stop Hiruzen,




    Both the Edo Kages and Oro were toying with Hiruzen right up to the time they were sealed, If Oro had been serious The Edo kages would of stomped hiruzen.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kabuto Stated he perfected it, I see no reason why kabuto would lie about this.

    Oro was never shown telling Edo Tobirama/Hashirama to stop Hiruzen,




    Both the Edo Kages and Oro were toying with Hiruzen right up to the time they were sealed, If Oro had been serious The Edo kages would of stomped hiruzen.
    Yes, Kabuto himself perfected it. Not Orochimaru.

    Sorry about that, I just watched over the anime fight yesterday after I read the manga fight.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    The problem with comparing these two ninja in terms of water techniques, is that Tobirama has only been presented to us in Part I.
    I'm sure we've all noticed that Kishimoto has begun to walk the path of DBZ, and this manga has become flashy, with overdone and overpowered jutsu; so its no wonder Kisame in Part II would outdo Tobirama in Part I.
    When we saw Edo-Hashirama fight, no one even gave that dude a second thought right?
    Now Hashirama is thought of as the godliest shinobi to ever live by many of NB. You just can't compare power levels in Part I to power levels in Part II.
    That being said, if Kishimoto would be inclined to give Tobirama some screen time in Part II (Like he how he is showing us Hashirama through Edo-Madara) then I'm sure Tobirama would easily outclass Kisame when it comes to suiton; because that is literally what he was known for. He wasn't considered the best for nothing.
    By actual manga feats, Kisame takes it. By hype and my personal opinion, Tobirama takes it.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Yes, Kabuto himself perfected it. Not Orochimaru.

    Sorry about that, I just watched over the anime fight yesterday after I read the manga fight.
    Kabuto Stated Oro perfected it, It's fact.

    Unless you're going to tell me the manga is wrong about this.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    many akatsuki members can beat a kage so it doesnt matter that tobirama was hokage, i would say kisame is the best.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kabuto Stated Oro perfected it, It's fact.

    Unless you're going to tell me the manga is wrong about this.
    Show it to me :D
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Tobirama for sure
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

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    Tobirama for sure
    :D
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    you mightve included Itachi

    for the fanboys

    what am i saying , love Itachi - i wouldve clicked him regardless of any1 else


    ITACHI FTW
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoSageUzumaki View Post
    you mightve included Itachi

    for the fanboys

    what am i saying , love Itachi - i wouldve clicked him regardless of any1 else


    ITACHI FTW
    There's always "Other" for that.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Tobirama could make water molecules from thin air by combining H2O and C02. I think we know who is best(;
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    I meant Hydrogen and Oxygen xD
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    This comes down to Kisame vs. Tobi(rama) and as Kisame's strongest tech counters ANY ninjutsu, I'ma hafta give it to the shark.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zygomic View Post
    Tobirama could make water molecules from thin air by combining H2O and C02. I think we know who is best(;
    :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratefish View Post
    This comes down to Kisame vs. Tobi(rama) and as Kisame's strongest tech counters ANY ninjutsu, I'ma hafta give it to the shark.
    *cracks knuckles*:kaito:
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    :D



    *cracks knuckles*:kaito:
    Please explain, why not? I didn't hurt your feelings, did I?
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratefish View Post
    Please explain, why not? I didn't hurt your feelings, did I?
    I'd basically restate everything that I put before, so just spend some time reading everything that I put before so I don't have to go through the extra work. You hurt the 33 that chose Tobirama's feelings.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    I'd basically restate everything that I put before, so just spend some time reading everything that I put before so I don't have to go through the extra work. You hurt the 33 that chose Tobirama's feelings.
    Ah, ok. Can't say I did read all the posts, and I can see the point. Tobirama is probably more SKILLED than Kisame in Suiton, and if he ever learned the Super Shark Bomb and they clashed their water sharks (that sounded naughty) Tobirama'd win.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piratefish View Post
    Ah, ok. Can't say I did read all the posts, and I can see the point. Tobirama is probably more SKILLED than Kisame in Suiton, and if he ever learned the Super Shark Bomb and they clashed their water sharks (that sounded naughty) Tobirama'd win.
    You have seen the light.
     
         

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    Re: Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    You have seen the light.
    Kisame still wins, though, as saying someone would beat someone else if they received PERSONAL TUITION from that person seems like cheating to me!

    ^^
     
         

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