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    Oh Jiraiya..

    This has been bothering me for a little while now.

    Yes I do like Jiraiya a lot but what do you guys think he would have done in the current situation? Do you think it was necessary to kill his character off as a means of balancing the field?

    Now that I think about it I think Jiraiya would have been a huge asset to the ASF( Allied Shinobi Forces ) and would with Sage Mode given the edo ninja and others a run for their money. maybe im over rating him but I do believe in Jiraiyas techniques and what has been said about his powers.

    Im curious as to what you guys think. Why Kishi killed him & what he could have done to keep Jiraiya in the story.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    I agree that he would have been a huge help in the war but they killed him off maybe to show how naruto can grow on his own, or just because he's such a good spy.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    His death was necessary to the plot, and he would be more valuable on the battlefield for his sealing, not his SM.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    He died because pain needed to do something to be given some credibility.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Naruto needed, plotwise, something to give him that motivation to become stronger which can only happen through death. He needed to show that he to has lost someone really close to him like Nagato had.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    He died for the plot. I think if he lived he prob could have raped most of the ninjas 1v1 or Versus several. I think his death was needed though. Either he or tsunade had to die.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Naruto would've been dead right now because he wouldn't have control over kyuubi, Killer B is the one who taught him that not jiraiya...
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    he wouldve been a big help but i still seen him dying somehow in the war.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannequin View Post
    Naruto would've been dead right now because he wouldn't have control over kyuubi, Killer B is the one who taught him that not jiraiya...
    J-man played a big part in Naruto controlling the 9tails to a extent. Bee just gave he that extra push.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Thanks for all your replies. Almost immediately after posting I realized it was for the growth of Naruto. Still I do miss him :/ I mean Oro came back and Tsunade is still alive, Jiraiya is the only one whos missing you know?
     
         

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    I like how you actually spelled his name instead of calling him J-Man.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ldude View Post
    He died because pain needed to do something to be given some credibility.
    I agree.:rofl:
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    True! But destroying the leaf would have been pretty big don't you think??
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLove View Post
    Thanks for all your replies. Almost immediately after posting I realized it was for the growth of Naruto. Still I do miss him :/ I mean Oro came back and Tsunade is still alive, Jiraiya is the only one whos missing you know?
    I don't think Tsunade is alive anymore...
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLove View Post
    True! But destroying the leaf would have been pretty big don't you think??
    Everytime I see your Avatar it puts this bad taste in my mouth at the way that game ended, lol. But anyway, not really Nagato raped the Leaf village then revived them because of talk-no-justu. So ehh.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    one thing i like about kishi and his manga is he is never afraid to kill an important character... not like bleach and other animes.... it makes more intersting the way kishi put ups the story...
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by u wanna die View Post
    one thing i like about kishi and his manga is he is never afraid to kill an important character... not like bleach and other animes.... it makes more intersting the way kishi put ups the story...
    Bleach is making me pissed...lol. Squad zero? Really? Next it's going to be in he negative #s.
     
         

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    Plot no Jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpai View Post
    Everytime I see your Avatar it puts this bad taste in my mouth at the way that game ended, lol. But anyway, not really Nagato raped the Leaf village then revived them because of talk-no-justu. So ehh.
    Quote Originally Posted by u wanna die View Post
    one thing i like about kishi and his manga is he is never afraid to kill an important character... not like bleach and other animes.... it makes more intersting the way kishi put ups the story...
    haha I don't even remember how FF8 ended! I finished it over 6 years ago and completely sped through it -_- I gotta replay it sometime. I don't mean to go off topic but did you ever read the "Squall is dead " theory? kinda creepy!

    And i totally agree! I like how he makes the plot that much more interesting because just when you least think it ... Someone super powerful is dead.. Brought back ... And dead again -_- (itachi )
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Jiraiya played the role of the mentor and guide for Naruto. His character was fully realized and there was nothing left to develop. Like Obi Wan or Gandalf his death was necessary so that the protagonist can develop and become fully realized through their own journey, but like those other two don't count Jiraiya out completely. He may return in some form or fashion.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    If Jiraiya was weak enough to get killed by Pain, then he deserved to die.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    [QUOTE=NoMoreLove;9129773]haha I don't even remember how FF8 ended! I finished it over 6 years ago and completely sped through it -_- I gotta replay it sometime. I don't mean to go off topic but did you ever read the "Squall is dead " theory? kinda creepy [QUOTE]

    Nah I haven't read it. I loved FF8 but the last several battles killed it for me. They could have done the battle sequences differently. Right now I'm playing FF tactics.....died like 10-25 times with the main character...
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyakusetsu View Post
    Jiraiya played the role of the mentor and guide for Naruto. His character was fully realized and there was nothing left to develop. Like Obi Wan or Gandalf his death was necessary so that the protagonist can develop and become fully realized through their own journey, but like those other two don't count Jiraiya out completely. He may return in some form or fashion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    If Jiraiya was weak enough to get killed by Pain, then he deserved to die.
    You're right. See this is why I posted the thread, I knew I'd get brilliant deductions from people like you.

    & I dunno.. Jiraiya was pretty damn strong... Pain had a huge advantage though considering all his paths.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    You definitely gotta check it out. The theory is that Squall has actually been dead since the end of the first disc! I agree... I was so mad when my non-junctioned characters got sent in -.-" Not to mention Griever being a damn GF wth kind of plot twist was that...

    I'm like 1/10th the way through FF 13-2 . I've finished 7,8,10,10-2, 90%Done 12, 13 and now working my way through 13-2 very slowly but surely. I've actually never played FF Tactics, since it wasn't one of the main numbers.
     
         

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    Re: Oh Jiraiya..

    I miss jiraiya too but his pervetedness was getting too much, so its good that they killed him off
     
         

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