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      The Juubi is Boss


      What do you believe the Juubi will be?
      A primitive creature, lacking intellect. A roaring animal, who mindlessly causes destruction.
      Or an intelligent creature. A creature who puts thought behind what it is doing.

      I believe its the latter and I will go even as far as to say that the Juubi is the director of its own revival.
      That is how great the Juubi is. The Juubi is boss.

      The Juubi is boss.
      I hope that everyone on that battlefield has brought spare clean underwear, cause they are gonna need one when they will shit their pants. I know that Gai always has spare tights with him, but i am not sure about the others .


      Intelligent creature.
      We have been introduced to the 9 bijous. They are all intelligent creatures and they have been made from the Juubi.
      Now this doesnt have to be proof yet that the Juubi is intelligent as well, but the following will be imo.
      The 9 bijou(with only a small piece of chakra from the last 2), have been sealed in the Gedo Mazo and this allowed the revival of the Juubi. I find it hard to believe that the combination of intelligent creatures, would turn into a mindless one. The Juubi is an intelligent creature.

      Director of its own revival.
      As I said, I believe the Juubi is the director of its own revival. Bijous will always exist and so has the Juubi, but just in a different form. You cannot get rid of bijous. If they die, they are revived back sometime later. You cant really call that dying. You can seal them away, but when sealed, they will still exist. They are still able to have influence on people/the world.


      If bijou die, they are revived back some time later.




      I find it hard to believe that the sage could have gotten rid of the Juubi. We already know that the Gedo Mazo is the Juubi and that it is actually alive. Its hands and knee's were not bound by chains for nothing and it even roared before a single bijou was sealed inside it. It has always been alive. It wasnt sealed in the moon for nothing. The moon served as a prison, to keep the Juubi trapped inside there. The Gedo Mazo is a form of the Juubi and it is used to revive it in its complete or incomplete form. The latter being the case right now.

      An empty Gedo Mazo being alive.




      And on the lower left picture, are the black rods, its will in physical shape, comming out.
      More about that later on in the thread.

      The sage was aware that he couldnt get rid of the Juubi. Even by splitting it into 9 and sealing the Gedo Mazo up in the moon, he wouldnt be able to get rid of the Juubi forever. It would only be temporary. Kurama and the other bijous mentioned, the sage predicted a person, that would guide them(Naruto) and warned them about the revival of the Juubi and its dangers for the world. The sage knew both would happen. The sage knew the Juubi couldnt be held trapped and sealed forever. He knew the Juubi would make its comeback.

      Two forms of control has been shown in this manga.
      One through overpowering by force.
      One through free will and/or love.
      The latter is out of choice.

      The Juubi uses the first one and he has used it to be the director of its own revival.
      Do you remember the black rods that came out of the Gedo Mazo, when Nagato battled with Hanzo?
      Do you remember what Madara explained to Obito? How the black rod that he created, was his will in a physical form?
      In this series, its possible to turn your will, into a physical form.
      Do you remember how Nagato used the black rods, to pierce dead bodies and living creatures? When pierced, the target could be influenced through the black rods.

      Will in a physical form.




      Juubi using them on Nagato.





      The Juubi has used these black rods on Nagato, in the Hanzo fight. Nagato changed after this battle. Not just his physical appearance. Emotionaly he went through quite a change as well and not only due to Yahiko his death, I will tell you that.
      He was pierced by the Gedo Mazo's black rods, by its will in physical form. From here on out, Nagato took a different path, until he was influenced again by the other form of control in this series. The Juubi was trying to make Nagato revive it. When he met Naruto and Naruto his talk no jutsu, reached Nagato's heart.

      Madara came in the same predicament as Nagato. He plugged himself to the Gedo Mazo.
      Sharingan, Mokuton, Rinnegan, Black rods, Bijouchakra(with will) these powers have been shown to be able to influence you greatly, unless your own willpower is strong enough. You will lose control if your hatred is to large. For example, Naruto and other jinchuriki, would get taken over by their bijou, if their hatred would skyrocket. Once Naruto was able to find peace in himself, he was able to prevent being taken over by Kurama's will, that would come along with his chakra. Madara for sure has not found peace in himself and has become subject to the Juubi his will after a while. This goes for Obito as well.


      The black rods popping out of Obito his Zetsu modification (half of his body is zetsu and he had the suit).
      His hatred skyrocketed just before the black rods formed.
      In that chapter he roared like a Juubi as well.




      Madara plugged to the Mazo.




      The zetsu goo, is made with the Mazo. The Juubi his influence is inside here as well.






      The Juubi his jutsus:
      Its still uncertain what kind of jutsus the Juubi is capable of doing.
      Forming a BijouBomb, is most likely one of them.
      However, the manga being black and white, makes it difficult to tell what kind of eye he has right now. We dont know if its white or red. He lacks a few Tomoe, that is clear. We know the Juubi is incomplete at the moment and that is most likely the reason for the lacking Tomoe. It has a piece of Kurama(9tails) and Gyuki(8tails), but it lacks their remaining chakra.


      Mokuton.
      The Juubi his skin seems to be made out of wood, which could hint he is capable of using Mokuton and the Juubi already appeared out of the ground like Zetsu does, which is another hint for having Mokuton. He is a progenitor, the origin of chakra. The Juubi possession Mokuton is a given I think.

      Dojutsus.
      Rinnegan, Sharingan and/or a combination, which one could call Sharinnegan.
      It is uncertain which dojutsus the Juubi has in his posession right now.
      If we take a look at Madara, he could be an example of how the Juubi his powers would function.
      It could imply that Juubi has both Sharingan and Rinnegan, either both at the same time, or maybe he can switch between them like Madara.
      On the other hand, Madara could be an example of the Sage his powers, after the sage became a host, with the difference being that Madara is not a host.
      We dont know for sure which powers the sage obtained, once he became the Juubi his host.

      The Sharingan, can be used to gain control over bijous. The other power, that can be used for this goal is Mokuton.
      The reason for this, is likely, that they are powers that the Juubi possessed, which means the 9 bijou were controlled with powers of the Juubi. This makes sense.

      That leaves Rinnegan. Did this manifest in the sage his eyes, when he became the Juubi his host? (Juubi not having it).
      Did the Juubi possess this eye already and did the Rinnegan manifest in the sage his eyes, when he became the Juubi his host? Did the Sage already have it before he became the Juubi his host?

      Son Gokuu, considers the Rinnegan chains, evil chains of the outer path Rinnegan and he highly respects the sage.
      He doesnt consider him evil. This would imply that the Rinnegan is Juubi's power and that the sage gained these eyes as its jinchuriki.


      One thing is for certain, if the Juubi has a load of Rinnegan and Sharingan powers, than you better take a whole bag of clean underwear to the battlefield, cause you are gonna need it, unless you are Zetsu, cause he doesnt need to poo .

      Yeah I might be wrong about stuff in this thread or I might be right. Who knows.
      I believe the idea of the Juubi being revived, just because Madara felt like it, is lacking.
      There has to be more behind it (The Juubi itself. The more conflict and war increase, the more hatred increases, the more the Juubi gained influence on the world).

      The powers, Juubi posessing both Dojutsu and Mokuton, is quite likely, with the info we have from the manga, however, you never know with Kishi.

      I hope Juubi starts talking next week.
      Mentioning how its plan to be revived, has been a succes .
      That is why I wanted to have this this thread complete, with loads of available info about the Juubi, because next week, some stuff might be revealed already and than one cant predict it anymore.

      Thank you very much for reading.

       
           
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      Re: The Juubi is Boss

      Since the bases of your thread is, that the Jubbi can talk I will say this.
      Yes the Jubbi can talk, UUF out :drive:
      Great read btw.
       
           

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      Absolutely astonishing thread. So well written. Although I don't have much information on the Juubi. I feel as if something linked to the Sage of the Six Paths will have to do something with this. Like, If the Sage was only able to split the Juubi, what is going to happen?
      The Juubi, Madara, Tobi. So many factors play here. Its scary to think what is going to happen.
       
           

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      Great thread. I commend you for your effort and well thought out ideas. Athough I disagree the Juubi had mokoton. As it was shown that mokoton is a trait from the sages lifeforce combined with earth and water. Also the Juubi skin cannot be made out of wood because we already know tailed beast are just mass amounts of chakra.
       
           

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      This is coming from Mewoverse? Holy reptitude.
       
           

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      awesome thread! i don't think he has mokuton though and his body being made of wood may not be right either.
       
           

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      It's the Sage's world, the Juubi just lives here..
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by James Harrsion View Post
      This is coming from Mewoverse? Holy reptitude.
      Dont be mislead by the funny cats or the 1% of parody lol posts of mine, with the other 99% being serious posts (I dont know if you were referring to those things though). I am a serious guy with serious threads.

      Quote Originally Posted by ' ~ Dantee ~ ' View Post
      Great thread. I commend you for your effort and well thought out ideas. Athough I disagree the Juubi had mokoton. As it was shown that mokoton is a trait from the sages lifeforce combined with earth and water. Also the Juubi skin cannot be made out of wood because we already know tailed beast are just mass amounts of chakra.
      Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubibomb View Post
      awesome thread! i don't think he has mokuton though and his body being made of wood may not be right either.
      Thanks both .

      It is shown, that you can give all kinds of things, a physical shape.
      You can even make your will turn into a physical form. Hashirama is able to turn his chakra into wood, so I wouldnt be surprised if the Juubi his chakra can take on the shape of a wood skin or shell. He is the progenitor after all.

      Quote Originally Posted by Skarm View Post
      Absolutely astonishing thread. So well written. Although I don't have much information on the Juubi. I feel as if something linked to the Sage of the Six Paths will have to do something with this. Like, If the Sage was only able to split the Juubi, what is going to happen?The Juubi, Madara, Tobi. So many factors play here. Its scary to think what is going to happen.
      Thanks and yeah its quite dazzling.
       
           

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      The Juubi "controlled" NAgato and Madara with those rods.... possible.... sounds like something that could happen.

      I really hope the juubi will "talk" in some form...
       
           

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      Great thread! Love how you provided parts of the manga to back up what you were saying .

      I also believe that the Jubbi being revived, there is more into it than simply Madara/Obito's plan purely because I think it would be a massive cope out if the Juubi is simply controlled from the word go. I hope he talks as well, he must! I also hope he retains some memories from the tailed beasts though, would be good to see it learn from it's individual forms over time instead of a completely new Juubi.

      Like your theory on the black rods as well, this could be something that might come true who knows!
       
           

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      Very good theories, well thought out, with evidences to back up your statements.

      I agree 100 % good job man.

       
           

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      Great thread!!! I agree 100%:D
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by meowNverse View Post
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      I find it hard to believe that the sage could have gotten rid of the Juubi. We already know that the Gedo Mazo is the Juubi and that it is actually alive. Its hands and knee's were not bound by chains for nothing and it even roared before a single bijou was sealed inside it. It has always been alive. It wasnt sealed in the moon for nothing. The moon served as a prison, to keep the Juubi trapped inside there. The Gedo Mazo is a form of the Juubi and it is used to revive it in its complete or incomplete form. The latter being the case right now.
      How I see it is that Sage shattered the Juubi into 3 parts - it's body - that is being kept inside the moon, it's spiritual body - that is inside of the Gedo Mazou now, and is responsible of it's behaviour, thus why it's evil on the counterpart of the Bijuu's (moments before they are sealed in the Mazou, we see them putting faith into Naruto in saving them and this world = not evil), and it's strength - the tailed beasts.

      So basically I think, that the Gedo Mazou is simply a vessel, nothing more, created to hold in the Juubi's spiritual body, so in theory, yes, the Juubi was always alive, it's intent was still there, but it was missing it's body and strength, and now it has regained a large portion of the latter, but along with it's strength, it seems it's regenerating it's physical form aswell. See when Nagato summoned it first, it attacked Hanzo's men with ghost-like abilities, however when Obito summons it to get the pot that hold Kinkaku and Ginkaku (has 7 bijuu's inside at this point), it goes on a physical rampage, smashing everything up.
       
           

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      Wow great thread well thought out
       
           

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      haha.. well said bro
       
           

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      lol i tried to make a few thread like that and failed
      nice i totally agree
       
           

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      I agree. The Juubi is intelligent and it was using Obito and Madara for its own ends.
       
           

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      I don't know why they say that bijuu reincarnate after being killed. When kabuto almost killed naruto, ninetails gave tsunade some chakra so that naruto wouldn't die. If he would reincarnate, why did he bother. He hated naruto.

      If the juubi's entire vocabulary is RROOAARR!!, that would be the biggest asspull since sasuke's great snake escape
       
           
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      Clearly you missed the post where SHIKAKU'S PLAN!!111oneone is going to stop a living God? Simple error though. Happens all the time.
       
           

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      Interesting theorie, but I higly doubt it. It has been said that the Juubi is just a force of nature, nor good nor evil, and has no goals or schemes and no personality. It is no embodiment of hatred, thus this theory about it becoming more powerful through growing hatred/conflict in the world is wrong.
       
           

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      ever since Tobi = that dead guy every theory is in itself kind of...useless.

      Apparantly its always the simplest thing a 5 year old can think of.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
      Clearly you missed the post where SHIKAKU'S PLAN!!111oneone is going to stop a living God? Simple error though. Happens all the time.
      Quote Originally Posted by Zol View Post
      Interesting theorie, but I higly doubt it. It has been said that the Juubi is just a force of nature, nor good nor evil, and has no goals or schemes and no personality. It is no embodiment of hatred, thus this theory about it becoming more powerful through growing hatred/conflict in the world is wrong.
      If you look at the date that I posted the theory(and you can conclude from the theory itself), you will see that I made it, before the Juubi was revived. He was still in gedo mazo state, inside that fire barrier. I still have small hopes that maybe when the Juubi transforms again, that he will be in a state where he has feelings, ideals, and a bigger vocabulary than ''roar'' .
      Quote Originally Posted by apple pie of doom View Post
      ever since Tobi = that dead guy every theory is in itself kind of...useless.

      Apparantly its always the simplest thing a 5 year old can think of.
      So you are saying that ever since Tobi=Obito, every theory is in itself kind of useless? and that one should predict the simplest outcome, an outcome that a 5 year old can think of?
      I rate Kishi quite higher than a 5 year old tbh.
       
           

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      Even if this doesn't come true... Still a great Read. Lovely Effort .. Thanks+Like+Reps ...
      Thank you for making my day ^_^.
       
           

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      Juubs going human form and being all "Madara, dawg, thanks for playing and then killing him would be epic" Sadly, I see this as unlikely. It's a good theory but a little anticlimactic for Kishimoto to dump on us. It's an easy way to end the problem of Madara. I want to see Motoi getting devoured by Juubs next chapter lols
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kagutsuchi View Post
      Even if this doesn't come true... Still a great Read. Lovely Effort .. Thanks+Like+Reps ...
      Thank you for making my day ^_^.
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      Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
      Juubs going human form and being all "Madara, dawg, thanks for playing and then killing him would be epic" Sadly, I see this as unlikely. It's a good theory but a little anticlimactic for Kishimoto to dump on us. It's an easy way to end the problem of Madara. I want to see Motoi getting devoured by Juubs next chapter lols
      Is motoi among the people there? I dont think I have seen him (which wouldnt have to mean that he isnt there though).
      Yeah it would be boss if Juubi thanks Madara for being revived, going like I controlled you all along Madara, muahhaha .
      Than Juubi instapowns Madara .

      Who do you want to see end Madara's life? Obito? someone else?
       
           

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