Rin's death seems too convenient for Madara. Possible turning point for Obito.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Doesn't it seem weird to you all how Madara just straight up predicted Obito's return and loyalty right in Obito's face?

The Zetsu's asked him everything about his personal life and the people he cared about most throughout the entire time Obito was recovering....

The Spiral Zetsu who had been ordered by Madara to rehabilitate Obito, developed a sort of a bond with him....also, he offered himself to Obito as an exterior knowing Obito was weak, EXACTLY at the perfect moment!

Kakashi was forced to kill Rin right as Obito arrived, awakening his Mangekyou Sharingan!

The whole speech about bringing the dead back to life by creating a separate reality was put in Obito's head at the very beginning.

Spiral Zetsu saying "now I see why Madara CHOSE YOU!"

It all seems pretty fishy to me.....



Also, this might also serve as a possible awakening or turning point for Obito, if or when he realises that his misery was orchestrated by Uchiha Madara himself to make a pawn out of him!

What do you Think?

[Skarlet]

Totally agree. Probably my exact thoughts as I read through the flashback.

[soyeongun]

Totally agree.
Obito got fooled by Madara.

[badoera]

I thought that was kinda obvious? :S

[namikaze12]

loving this thread :D

[★LssJBroly]

Yes I agree

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

I thought that was kinda obvious? :S

Nothing is ever obvious on the Base.

[Chibakuu Tensei]

we all just waiting for madara kill obito

[Thundergod123]

I just had a feeling on Madara's face that he have something in his mind and tricking Obito with something, just don't know yet.

[Owarij]

Been saying this, that day turned out way too well for Madara..and why was zetsu "helping" obito again?
I would never see zetsu betraying madara

It seems all planned imo

[doru]

what i find hard to believe is that basically madara was stalking konoha behind the scenes waiting for obito to end up in a accident.thats retarded coz like you stated zetsu said madara chose him he didn't just find him by accident.

[Thundercles]

To piggy back off this: It seems that the whole event of Kakashi killing Rin was part of the plan too. I still don't think he murdered her for nothing.

[Jim Rider]

Clearly when Obito finds out the true reasons why Madara is doing what he is doing, his gonna turn on madara... bit like when we foudn out dnazo isnt really a complete buttmunch and was actually supporting konaha in his own ways..be it old fashion beliefs.

[ninjasrb2]

Crazy theory here!!!!!!! What if the hidden mist capital was hosting the chunin exams the months after the leaf village one,(Kakashi lost to Guy).All the stress of thinking his dad killed himself cause of how his lost was dishonor to him . I think Kakashi and Rin Traveled near the hidden mist to enter the exam but, like zabuza and haku stated(Naruto bridge construction arc) their exam has a turning point at the end the 2 runner ups have to fight to the death. Soon as they won they realized something wrong and ran, but the people of the hidden Mist warned them that attending a chunin exam of another village and not going by the rules could probably lead to punishment or war for confusion of dominant Villages. As they were ambushed kakashi's pride has taking over because of the stress of his farther ,he wanted to become a chunin to make family name back in. As for Rin she was confused but, it felt like she knew this was going to happen , That they were going to have to fight to the death to become chunin because all she wanted to do was to make kakashi have his stress lifted.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Crazy theory here!!!!!!! What if the hidden mist capital was hosting the chunin exams the months after the leaf village one,(Kakashi lost to Guy).All the stress of thinking his dad killed himself cause of how his lost was dishonor to him . I think Kakashi and Rin Traveled near the hidden mist to enter the exam but, like zabuza and haku stated(Naruto bridge construction arc) their exam has a turning point at the end the 2 runner ups have to fight to the death. Soon as they won they realized something wrong and ran, but the people of the hidden Mist warned them that attending a chunin exam of another village and not going by the rules could probably lead to punishment or war for confusion of dominant Villages. As they were ambushed kakashi's pride has taking over because of the stress of his farther ,he wanted to become a chunin to make family name back in. As for Rin she was confused but, it felt like she knew this was going to happen , That they were going to have to fight to the death to become chunin because all she wanted to do was to make kakashi have his stress lifted.

Excellent theory! I really like it, but, that wouldn't explain why the Mist wanted Rin's body, and Kakashi wouldnt kill Rin over a ridiculous exam rule such as that.

[Anorien16]

Crazy theory here!!!!!!! What if the hidden mist capital was hosting the chunin exams the months after the leaf village one,(Kakashi lost to Guy).All the stress of thinking his dad killed himself cause of how his lost was dishonor to him . I think Kakashi and Rin Traveled near the hidden mist to enter the exam but, like zabuza and haku stated(Naruto bridge construction arc) their exam has a turning point at the end the 2 runner ups have to fight to the death. Soon as they won they realized something wrong and ran, but the people of the hidden Mist warned them that attending a chunin exam of another village and not going by the rules could probably lead to punishment or war for confusion of dominant Villages. As they were ambushed kakashi's pride has taking over because of the stress of his farther ,he wanted to become a chunin to make family name back in. As for Rin she was confused but, it felt like she knew this was going to happen , That they were going to have to fight to the death to become chunin because all she wanted to do was to make kakashi have his stress lifted.

Good theory, Except for the fact Kakashi was already a Jonin by the time of the Bridge incident..... Rin and Obito too was probably a chunin by then.

[ninjasrb2]

Its weird though the land of the mist has the biggest missing ninja count in the series, I hope they have something up there sleeve in the future of the plot .

[Piratefish]

Good point. Perhaps she was genjutsu'd into betraying the village, leading up to this little scenario:
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=276971

[Aaroninja]

Yeah, it's highly likely that Madara was behind it all. We still don't know why Kakashi killed Rin, but I think that Obito doesn't know either. Once he finds out, I believe he will change sides and attack Madara, which will result in Obito's death. I think this will fuel Kakashi to be more effective on the battlefield

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Yeah, it's highly likely that Madara was behind it all. We still don't know why Kakashi killed Rin, but I think that Obito doesn't know either. Once he finds out, I believe he will change sides and attack Madara, which will result in Obito's death. I think this will fuel Kakashi to be more effective on the battlefield

He might want revenge on Madara for it, but I think his own mentality cannot change, he is wayy too much of a realist now, the word 'hope' is not in his dictionary anymore. Unless he realises that Tsuki no me will just be another lie.....then......maybe...

[Prime Rib]

No, madara was just right about life

[RasenUchihaChaos]

u guys just want a way for obito to "turn good" when he was never evil/ just not a saint i doubt madra had anything to do with that unless he can glimpse into the future

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

No, madara was just right about life

You talk like somebody who blames all the bad stuff in his life on circumstances.