LOLL Kishimoto proves Sarutobi's hype wrong, LMAO

[Carlhens]

I doubt Hiruzen was stonger than Tobirama nor Minato

[UzumakiXNaruto]

lol

[minatoisagod]

anything said it part one is just unnecessary right about now. Everything seems to have been retconned

[chaise94]

I would just like to say i have seen a lot of argument saying "when he fought the first and second they were edo's so they were not at full strength" well madara is an edo so there are a lot of people who might be able to beat hims since he is clearly not at full strength being an edo and all.

[zesto]

i keep telling people Hiruzen is all hyped and the weakest Hokage.......BUT THEY FIND IT HARD TO REALIZE THE FACT WHEN ITS STARING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THERE FACES.

[manga anime700spt2]

things changes. todays weakling could be tomorrow's biggest threat so is it with strength. sarutobi was not always gonna remain strong there will be others who could reach his level

[lilshell43]

Hiruzen whooped his ass along with Tobirama. That's all the proof I need :-P

[Cascade]

i left this forum for like 5 months for exam, i come back and this arguement is still going on,

fanboys are never going to let this rest, irrelevant of your perspective, just let it go, theres proof to sayhashi>hiruzen and proof to say hiruzen>hashi...tbh this thread was probably made to get top thread...which unfortunately it did...let it doi, get over it...

[deyoers]

I just realized this today, while debating on youtube. Kishimoto already proved hiruzen's title "God of shinobi" wrong.

People didn't want to be believe it through Madara Uchiha. But a more confirmed person has proved it wrong.

I bet you all know his name. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you Tsunade's lover... DAN

This Man stated: Only hashirama could possibly stop Madara. LOL.

Funny part about that is.. Hashirama was way before Dan's time. lol. He was a jounin when Sarutobi was the Hokage ;p. And he had seen his prime. =3. :P:D

im not against your opinion the hype given to hiruzen. but dan said that when he was revived via edo tensei. and for all we know, all dan was saying was that nobody alive at the moment is capable of stopping the revived madara. one fact though, everyone knew that hashirama defeated madara. so it would make sense to say that. hiruzen never fought madara, and it would be pointles to say, only hashirama would be able to stop madara, and if hiruzen was still alive, he would have stopped him too. or maybe jiraiya. etc. do you get my point?

[Omnipotent]

Hiruzen whooped his ass along with Tobirama. That's all the proof I need :-P

No, Hiruzen committed murder-suicide because he was fighting a losing battle.

[YowYan]

sharp one

[Darksharinnegan]

hashirama's wood release is simply better suited for someone who can sumon the mazu and kyuubi and seen with the wood dragon. plants ability to absorb chakra simply makes him the better man for the job

a>b>c is a logic fail when talking about a fight to the death

[KingHashirama]

hashirama's wood release is simply better suited for someone who can sumon the mazu and kyuubi and seen with the wood dragon. plants ability to absorb chakra simply makes him the better man for the job

a>b>c is a logic fail when talking about a fight to the death

To bad we are talking about their strength....

which is always A>B>C>

[Paintachi]

I just realized this today, while debating on youtube. Kishimoto already proved hiruzen's title "God of shinobi" wrong.

People didn't want to be believe it through Madara Uchiha. But a more confirmed person has proved it wrong.

I bet you all know his name. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you Tsunade's lover... DAN

This Man stated: Only hashirama could possibly stop Madara. LOL.

Funny part about that is.. Hashirama was way before Dan's time. lol. He was a jounin when Sarutobi was the Hokage ;p. And he had seen his prime. =3. :P:D

ye he could only stop him but Saruto Prime would KILL, WRECK, BURN, DESTROY, EXPLODE, BANG, RIP and SHIT ON HIM. who the **** knows? there are also hype trolls from sarutobi sides.

Like kisame/itachi trolled 3 tomoe sick bad eyesight sharingan kakasi,kurenai,asuma and guy at the same time. Then makin a stalemate with jiraiya (either this is a troll by kishi or a lie by itachi to continue his plan) i think second.

and guess what kakashi's fans startin makin threads kakashi surpassed Jiraiya omg and even i read one thread kakashi vs nagato ***** please kakashi was trolled by 1 of the paths.

we all know sarutobi senior kicked both brothers back to their grave and no there was not any damn clear manga proof which said they weren't full power .

Solved
Thank you , Thank you
Signatures will come later people.

-Paintachi

[KingHashirama]

ye he could only stop him but Saruto Prime would KILL, WRECK, BURN, DESTROY, EXPLODE, BANG, RIP and SHIT ON HIM. who the **** knows? there are also hype trolls from sarutobi sides.

Like kisame/itachi trolled 3 tomoe sick bad eyesight sharingan kakasi,kurenai,asuma and guy at the same time. Then makin a stalemate with jiraiya (either this is a troll by kishi or a lie by itachi to continue his plan) i think second.

and guess what kakashi's fans startin makin threads kakashi surpassed Jiraiya omg and even i read one thread kakashi vs nagato ***** please kakashi was trolled by 1 of the paths.

we all know sarutobi senior kicked both brothers back to their grave and no there was not any damn clear manga proof which said they weren't full power .

Solved
Thank you , Thank you
Signatures will come later people.

-Paintachi

Actually that was no troll. Kakashi , Guy, and others just weren't that strong at the time. Hes pretty on par or a level below Jiraya.. but not surpassed.

Hiruzen kicked them?? I thought Hiruzen got his face like a *****. And then thought he did some damage with mere paper bombs.. but the bros just shook it off.

Bottomline.. Oro trolled Hiruzen to the point.. where Hiruzen had no choice but to commit suicide.

[edotensei15]

Well maybe this will help clear it up ---
Madara showed us that his final susano'o form can destroy mountain ranges, he states that it is equivalent to A TAILED BEAST'S
Now look, i Dont care what you say about any characters comments on "god of shinobi" shit, because lets be honest, you have never, and will NEVER see Hiruzen bust out a TBB or a 200 ft tall Susano'o with four swords.
I should think this is substantial evidence, However if you want to argue, by all means show us a manga scan that shows Hiruzen doing something of equal destructive force/scale.
(now just in case you want to be a little girl and say "Not all strength is measured in ---blah blah blah" all i have to say to you is this: Power is measured by size and strength of technique. If you wanted to call a healer the best ninja on earth you'd obviously be wrong.)

[ShaneEyyy]

Hiruzen was a great man, yes, there's a lot to say about him. He was very talented in the art of the ninja and very intelligent. A man of wisdom, a man you could always look up to, well, if he was taller, if he was shorter then you will have to look down.

[Nagatoballer]

Probably because Hashirama has great sealing techs and is therefore an awesome counter to Edo Madara. It was stated in Part 1 that Hiruzen was the strongest of the Hokage in his prime. No one doubts Hashi's power, but you gotta get over it. Hiruzen was the strongest of the Kage and that is that. Sure, Hashi has massive techs that can re-shape a battlefield, but Hiruzen was just a more skilled ninja. "A master with a pebble can defeat a novice with a kunai". Not saying Hashi is a novice by far, but like it was stated Naruto is rock, paper, scissors. Where 1 ninja is the perfect counter to ninja A, ninja B could still take on the original shinobi.

Um could hiruzan control tailed beasts no could he block a tailed beast blast like madara or the first no plus hiruzan has to use the monkey king the fight nine tails he is another ninja it is simple the first and madara are on another level what could hiruzan do against a perfect susanoo or against a giant wood dragon throwing a pebble at them won't work what a stupid quote like the first is a novice compared to hiruzan hiruzan is no where near the first or madara

[Yo Momma San]

You're the biggest d1ck rider of Hashirama, I've ever seen. How was the bukkake?

[KingHashirama]

You're the biggest d1ck rider of Hashirama, I've ever seen. How was the bukkake?

Is that all you think about??? other men on dicks? wth.

[LegendaryAce]

Is that all you think about??? other men on dicks? wth.

king I see you're using the quote as your sig

[KingHashirama]

king I see you're using the quote as your sig

People talk about hype of Hiruzen in Part 1. Might as well show Hashirama and Tobirama's hype. lol.

[Yo Momma San]

Is that all you think about??? other men on dicks? wth.

Says the guy who has his avatar, user-name and sig. devoted to Hashirama.

[KingHashirama]

Says the guy who has his avatar, user-name and sig. devoted to Hashirama.

Hashirama is raw. ^_^ Role model for life.

But you have a sanji ava (A perverts ava) and then a girl with only a bra on ...... So much for class aye.

[LegendaryAce]

Hashirama is raw. ^_^ Role model for life.

But you have a sanji ava (A perverts ava) and then a girl with only a bra on ...... So much for class aye.

Respect for sanji he almost died cause of nami