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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    I think they're even.

    You guys have to admit, after what Kakashi's kamui did to the 8 tails, Susanoo won't look so scary anymore.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    kakshi only lost to itachi because he let his guard down(which was stated) with these new abilities i say his chances of winning are pretty damn solid if not higher.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    itachi wins extreme high diff this time
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Itachi has not been surpassed by Kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    i think itachi still wins with med high diff.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Quote Originally Posted by enditallsin View Post
    kakshi only lost to itachi because he let his guard down(which was stated) with these new abilities i say his chances of winning are pretty damn solid if not higher.
    Really pathetic exscuse
    "because he let his guard down" dude you are ridiculous
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    not even kakashi's dream
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Really pathetic exscuse
    "because he let his guard down" dude you are ridiculous
    ****er go look at the damn story, it said it not me so stfu *****ing.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    This comes down to whoever strikes first, tsukuyomi vs Kamui. I have explained this scenario in several threads already, but it should be pretty obvious...
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    I would like to add that if kamui hits, it's not gonna make a difference if it's the first the most powerful ninja in the world of a random farm worker.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?
    From the latest chapter we have seen Kakashi become better and better at his Kamui, now he can even teleport others to the dimension Obito and Kakashi have. Can Kakashi with his new Kamui levels beat out Itachi?

    Please note that he cannot teleport to other places yet like Obito does, and both have low chakra levels.
    you are correct
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Quote Originally Posted by enuzuki View Post
    This comes down to whoever strikes first, tsukuyomi vs Kamui. I have explained this scenario in several threads already, but it should be pretty obvious...
    Wouldn't Kakashi be able to cast Kamui even AFTER taking a Tsukuyomi? I mean, he was conscious, briefly, after the last one, and Tsukuyomi causes Itachi enough strain that him moving to a spot Kakashi can't hit him in time seems very unlikely.

    Also, shouldn't Kakashi be able to break it, having the Mangekyou?

    And the same technique hasn't ever worked on Kakashi twice.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Well, since it took every ounce of strength he had to stay standing, and mind you he failed at that. No i doubt he could even lift a finger, but i would give him a good chance for winning. Since kamui has a longer range he can maybe get out of range before Itachi gets to him. As i said it's gunslinger match.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Quote Originally Posted by enuzuki View Post
    Well, since it took every ounce of strength he had to stay standing, and mind you he failed at that. No i doubt he could even lift a finger, but i would give him a good chance for winning. Since kamui has a longer range he can maybe get out of range before Itachi gets to him. As i said it's gunslinger match.
    Well now he has experience with it, and should be able to tank it.

    But seriously, he has been able to use Kamui when unable to do much more than remain standing before. And even that uncertain. Remember how he looked after Obito's beatdown?

    And couldn't he break Tsukuyomi using MS?
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    "I think Kakashi is on the same general level as Jiraiya and Orochimaru. His Genjutsu, ninjutsu versatility, and in-battle tactical abilities trump either of theirs, as does his speed (barring Sage Mode), reflexes, and CQC effectiveness. His trump card also trumps either of their trump cards given its an instant-win button (no knowledge on it, invisible, and far too fast for them to mentally react to, let alone physically react to). They have him beat in stamina and AOE attacks, so in the end, it balances out. Minato and Itachi are still above Kakashi, IMO. Kakashi might be able to beat Itachi in an extremely rigged scenario where he opens the fight with Kamui, but in overall level, I'd rank Itachi as a tier above him mostly due to the fact he has three Mangekyō techniques as opposed to just one. This may change if Kakashi can manage to use Kamui the way Obito does (intangibility and long distance travel). I view Minato as Itachi's parallel (with respect to Naruto and Sasuke), so I'd put him above Kakashi too."
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Itachi can use amaterasu on him and if he gets too close to susano he will get slashed and sealed + Itachi always likes to deceive people with his crow clones.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Well now he has experience with it, and should be able to tank it.
    No, no you can't just tank Tsukiyomi.

    But seriously, he has been able to use Kamui when unable to do much more than remain standing before. And even that uncertain. Remember how he looked after Obito's beatdown?
    3 days of straight torture>>>getting beat up. Kakashi even says Itachi could have just killed him



    And couldn't he break Tsukuyomi using MS?
    no, Kakashi already unlocked MS when he first fought Itachi, back when he was 13.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    kakashi will never be stronger than a true Uchiha.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    At this point they are fairly even but Itachi's Yata Mirror may be able to cancel kamui, who knows?:confused:

    I still say Itachi high difficulty as Itachi has more one shotters compared to Kakashi and is the faster ninja. I don't think using a clone will help Kakashi avoid the effects of Tsukiyomi since the memories of the clone get transferred back to the main body once the clone dissipates.
     
         

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    Re: Kakashi surpassed Itachi now?

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    No, no you can't just tank Tsukiyomi.
    I was joking, which is why the statement is immediately followed by me saying: "But, seriously".

    But, SERIOUSLY, could the Third Raikage tank it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    3 days of straight torture>>>getting beat up. Kakashi even says Itachi could have just killed him
    Not in terms of actual, physical exhaustion. He's CAPABLE of using Kamui if he can maintain the concentration.

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    no, Kakashi already unlocked MS when he first fought Itachi, back when he was 13.
    He certainly didn't use it to resist the Tsukuyomi last time, that's not arguable.

    There's no evidence Kakashi even knew the Mangekyou EXISTED before being trapped by Tsukuyomi, and a fair amount of indirect evidence supporting that he DIDN'T.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
    kakashi will never be stronger than a true Uchiha.
    What about ALL of the Uchiha that AREN'T Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Madara...
     
         

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